Which Sj station is next to bite the dust?

[SJFAN]

What stations will be next to drop smooth jazz? Kyot,Denver,ktwv,kssj or kwjz.

Kifm will probably be around for a while.

Is ktwv as safe as kifm? Or is ktwv on it's way out?

 

[davideduardo]

Is ktwv as safe as kifm? Or is ktwv on it's way out?

KIFM is at least borderline Top 10 25-54. KTWV is just barely top 20 in the sales demos.

What may affect KIFM is the weak radio economy of San Diego. Finest City's three station operations are being auctioned off in a week, due to failure to perform in regards to their loan commitments. This is not just a reflection on the operator of the stations, but on the overall economy too. At least one of those stations does better in the sales demos than KIFM.

A poor ratings performance in sales demos certainly could jeopardize the format.

 

[recto101]

All Music Stations will die off within this decade as more people buy MP3 Players that connect to the internet or the Iphone.

 

[RBW]

If that becomes reality, then it's a sad reflection on what our society has become. Radio (as we know it) has been a cornerstone of communication for as long as the world has been "civilized". If all it becomes is music from a central hub with no personality or local "flavor", then we might as well declare vanilla as our favorite ... everything... :-\

Case in point perhaps... 106.7 WMJX Boston-- the AC station that's been a beantown success for decades, launched their "HD" channel of smooth jazz several months ago. With "zero" ads and the absolute minimum of announcements (which is just slightly more than not at all) is the most BORING "radio station" I've ever heard! Even their SJ format features an EQUAL mix of vocals and SJ instrumentals. Every OTHER song is a vocal! Please... don't allow that to be the norm of the future. I enjoy radio for what it is, and always has been. I don't own an ipod, and the concept of that to ME is boring. I don't like listening to one song after another, continuously, for longer than the average CD runs. I enjoy variety, interruptions of talk and pieces of information...news, weather, etc. From my days as a kid, to growing up and being a DJ ON the radio... it's been one of the biggest influences on my personality.

OK, I'm off my soap-box now.

At least I predict talk radio to still be around.

 

[AC Tones]

RBW: First off, welcome to the board. By reading your recent posts, it appears you are every bit as frustrated as we have been about the decline of the format on terrestrial radio. While we cannot stop this freight train, we have the collective ability to prolong the format's life, perhaps for many years to come, on the Internet. That said, as my friends and colleagues on this board know full well, I too have not been as quick as others to embrace services like Pandora and Slacker, and respect the need for a "human" element in radio, whether it be personalities or programmers. Call me old school, but in my mind, those services are nothing more than overgrown Ipods/mp3 players. I can tell you that my listeners love the syndicated programming I carry, and it greatly enhances the "conversational" aspect of the product I try to deliver. I have also occasionally aired a few speciality shows of my own over the past 18 months, and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.

And "conversational" need not be exclusively in the verbal sense. Every Friday, I preview the weekend's syndicated programming (and anything else I want to share pertaining to the station) in a brief e-mail I send to my loyal listeners, and I always make it a point to do it in a very "personal" manner---as if I am speaking directly to each and every one of the listeners who support me on a daily basis, and that I really do care about their listening experience, and value their input and the relationships I have developed with them. For me, getting to know my listeners and how much they enjoy what I am doing is the most rewarding part of operating my own radio station, and it will always serve as my own measure of success.

Peace,

Chris

 

[recto101]

If that becomes reality, then it's a sad reflection on what our society has become. Radio (as we know it) has been a cornerstone of communication for as long as the world has been "civilized". If all it becomes is music from a central hub with no personality or local "flavor", then we might as well declare vanilla as our favorite ... everything... :-\

Case in point perhaps... 106.7 WMJX Boston-- the AC station that's been a beantown success for decades, launched their "HD" channel of smooth jazz several months ago. With "zero" ads and the absolute minimum of announcements (which is just slightly more than not at all) is the most BORING "radio station" I've ever heard! Even their SJ format features an EQUAL mix of vocals and SJ instrumentals. Every OTHER song is a vocal! Please... don't allow that to be the norm of the future. I enjoy radio for what it is, and always has been. I don't own an ipod, and the concept of that to ME is boring. I don't like listening to one song after another, continuously, for longer than the average CD runs. I enjoy variety, interruptions of talk and pieces of information...news, weather, etc. From my days as a kid, to growing up and being a DJ ON the radio... it's been one of the biggest influences on my personality.

OK, I'm off my soap-box now.

At least I predict talk radio to still be around.

RBW: First off, welcome to the board. By reading your recent posts, it appears you are every bit as frustrated as we have been about the decline of the format on terrestrial radio. While we cannot stop this freight train, we have the collective ability to prolong the format's life, perhaps for many years to come, on the Internet. That said, as my friends and colleagues on this board know full well, I too have not been as quick as others to embrace services like Pandora and Slacker, and respect the need for a "human" element in radio, whether it be personalities or programmers. Call me old school, but in my mind, those services are nothing more than overgrown Ipods/mp3 players. I can tell you that my listeners love the syndicated programming I carry, and it greatly enhances the "conversational" aspect of the product I try to deliver. I have also occasionally aired a few speciality shows of my own over the past 18 months, and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.

And "conversational" need not be exclusively in the verbal sense. Every Friday, I preview the weekend's syndicated programming (and anything else I want to share pertaining to the station) in a brief e-mail I send to my loyal listeners, and I always make it a point to do it in a very "personal" manner---as if I am speaking directly to each and every one of the listeners who support me on a daily basis, and that I really do care about their listening experience, and value their input and the relationships I have developed with them. For me, getting to know my listeners and how much they enjoy what I am doing is the most rewarding part of operating my own radio station, and it will always serve as my own measure of success.

Peace,

Chris

Well In able for the web stations to render the FM/AM/XM and HD Radio to become obsolete they have to hire good radio personalites, make station id based on where they live and Do local news on the hour and talk about the next concerts.

 

[AC Tones]

Completely agree, recto. And I have had this very conversation with colleagues of mine in the Internet broadcasting industry offline (namely a couple veteran posters on this board) to discuss creative ways we can work together through cross-promotional efforts while being more active in and responsive to our listeners in our respective local markets. Perhaps I am in the minority on this one, but I for one would love to be able to listen to hours of great music blended with local news, weather, traffic, and even sports. And that's what I eventually want to stive to deliver, once I can figure out a way to do it from a technical standpoint. Eventually I want to run two different feeds for my station: a local one that has the same great programming for my local listeners that includes local news, weather, traffic, and sports; and a worldwide feed for everyone else. At least that is the vision. 8)

 

[RBW]

Thank you AC, for the welcome, and the thoughtful response. At least I'm not alone in my passion.

Your vision sounds relative and with good promise. I'm sure we'll hear more.

Cheers!

 

[recto101]

Completely agree, recto. And I have had this very conversation with colleagues of mine in the Internet broadcasting industry offline (namely a couple veteran posters on this board) to discuss creative ways we can work together through cross-promotional efforts while being more active in and responsive to our listeners in our respective local markets. Perhaps I am in the minority on this one, but I for one would love to be able to listen to hours of great music blended with local news, weather, traffic, and even sports. And that's what I eventually want to stive to deliver, once I can figure out a way to do it from a technical standpoint. Eventually I want to run two different feeds for my station: a local one that has the same great programming for my local listeners that includes local news, weather, traffic, and sports; and a worldwide feed for everyone else. At least that is the vision. 8)

The Web Stations should declare where they are based in the same form AM and FM Did it. Like KKSF San Francisco or Smoothradio.com San Jose.