Which station in your market was/is pre-emption happy

[perfidia08]

A few clarifications...

Yeah, KYW was pretty bad with pre-emptions. During the 1970s, the Tuesday 8PM NBC offering (The Runaways, Baa Baa Black Sheep, etc.) was always replaced with "Meeting House" and "Black Edition". This didn't change until (IIRC) 1979-80. In the early 1970s, the Saturday NBC movie was frequently bumped to WPHL.

RE: Daytime...WTAF, WPHL and WKBS all ran KYW's castoffs throughout the 1970s and early 1980s.

They would remain like this until 1991 when they went down to preempting only one hour a day due to the fact that NBC was giving that hour back to affiliates anyway.

The near-last straw was KYW's dumping a Friday night NBC hour in the early 1990s for "The Bulletin with Larry Kane". Had CBS and Westinghouse not merged in 1994 (making KYW a CBS O&O), NBC would likely have dumped KYW for another station.

They remained like this till they became a CBS affiliate/quazi O & O (eventually a true O & O after the Westinghouse merger. 65 WRBV/WJST ran some NBC rejects from 1982 to 1985. Channel 29 WTAF/WTXF ran some rejects until 1989 or so. After that Channel 40 WIldwood would be on most of the cable systems to make up for the preemptions (they cleared NBC's whole schedule).

I dont recall channel 65 ever carrying any NBC shows. WTAF aired the 10-11AM programs (usually sitcom reruns or game shows) until the mid-late 1980s.

Your info about WPVI is correct. They also carried GMA's forebear AM America.

WKBS was the usual go-to secondary for ABC in the 1970s, though WTAF and WPHL would pitch in occasionally early on.

In the Summer of 1983, WPVI preempted Loving, Edge Of Night, and Too Close For Comfort. Channel 48 decided to dump ABC rejects that May except for Too Close For Comfort with plans to drop that in the fall (unaware they would instead go dark end of August - that decsion being made July 14). Rejects moved to Channel 29 WTAF for a while and then to WSJT

Again, I don't recall 65 carrying any network castoffs, but I dont have access to any TV listings right now, so I'm not going to disagree with you. WTXF carried ABC's 11AM programming (usually sitcom reruns) in the mid-late 1980s.

and then to NBC affiliate Channel 40 in Wildwood in the 9 AM hour and 4 PM slot. As an O & O they continued preempting the 11 AM to 1230 hour and a half. Finally when ABC canceled Ryans Hope, Loving began to be run on Channel 6 in 1988.

Actually, IIRC WPVI tape-delayed Loving to 11:30 the next day at first, then carrying it live at 12:30 in 1984, when Loving and RH switched timeslots (RH was then tape-delayed until its demise).

Beginning in 1992 when ABC gave back the 12 Noon slot, Channel 6 began running 30 minutes of teh Home Show in 92 and then 30 minutes of Mike and Maty (which morphed out of the Home Show and replaced that show anyway). Finally in 1997, they began clearing the entire ABC schedule when the View premiered.

I loved the TV listings for the 90-minute version of Home (which ran on ABC from 11-12:30). WPVI would only carry the 11:30 portion, so the listings would show "joined in progress left in progress".

WPVI did the Saturday 7AM tape-delay from the early 1980s right up until the beginning of the Disney era. Usually, the 11AM-1PM block was cut, and many shows (ex. "Little Rosey", "What-A-Mess") never made to Philadelphia.

 

[Marckd]

Channel 6 most of the time from the mid 80's to the Disney era cleared the entire Saturday Morning lineup. Running it on tape delay a wwek behind from 630-8 AM. Sometimes a show or so was preempted. Weekend Special often still aired at 1230. At one point they moved Al Alberts to Saturday at 11 AM with Perspective at Noon and Weekend Special at 1230. The other hour and a half ran early once Captain Noah stopped altogether.

I looked through some old listings and 65 did not carry any castoffs. NBC ones aired on Channel 17. ABC ones aired on Channel 48. Once 48 went dark, Channel 29 carried most of the castoffs. By 1986, 29 was running only a couple NBC rejects. Channel 40 the NBC affilaite for Cape May area carried on all the cable systems ran ABC castoffs at 9 AM and again at 4 PM. They cleared NBC's entire schedule.

About Westinghouse, in 1994. NBC wanted to keep KYW as their affiliate BUT with a NO PREEMPTION agreement. WBZ TV would also be in that deal. That way CBS could keep Channel 10. But in the end after CBS got no preemption deals for KPIX and KDKA TV beginning the fall of 95; CBS determined they would also like WBZ TV and WJZ Baltimore. Those flips occurred New years of 95 also with a NO preemption agreement. KYW TV took longer because CBS had to sell Channel 10. But a few weeks before the affiliation shift took place in Philadelphia, CBS decided to merge with Westinghouse anyway.

Actually no preemption deals did not have any real legal ground because that would then mean the networks would control the affiliates and not the station owners and the FCC laws before 1984 did not allow an owner or company to control more than 7 stations and in 1984 no more than 14. With the limit being 14 by 1994, though, CBS was free to control Westinghouse stations without actually owning them. Actually under the original deal Westinghouse would fully own their 5 stations as always and CBS would own WCBS TV, KCBS TV, WBBM TV, newly acquired WGPR/WWJ TV, and WCCO TV. Other acquisitions due to swaps which would include KCNC Denver, KUTV Salt lake City, and Channel 4 WFOR (which the intellectual unit was formerly on Channel 6 and WCIX) would be jointly owned by CBS and Westinghouse. This became a moot point in 1996 when the 2 companies completely merged.

Once Disney and ABC merged the Capital Cities stations and ABC stations were now run as one company and not seperate ones. Also when Fox bought New World, they ran the New World stations as a seperate company with a distinctly different strategy (evening news on New World stations but not on Fox stations). They did upgrade to better syndicated shows on the New World stations though. By 2002, Fox began putting evening news on their original O & O stations. After selling a group of stations to Local TV LLC several years back, the way Fox runs their original stations and former New World stations has blurred. Now every station is run as part of one company. much of this seems due to the fact that Fox is not involved with kids shows on any of their stations anymore.

 

[KKLM]

Far enough north and West you could get 31 WNNE Dartmouth NH region which cleared NBC's whole schedule.

Well most of it, they might have preempted a program or two there in the past, But As For WPTZ In Burlington though, in the past they used to preempt some NBC shows as well, here are some that WPTZ never even carried.

NBC News Overnight
GO!
Hot Potato
The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour
Santa Barbara
Let's Make A Deal (1990 Version)
Trialwatch
Wheel Of Fortune (Bob Goen Version)
Cover To Cover
The Jane Whitney Show
The Other Side
Real Life

 

[mvcg66b3r]

Well most of it, they might have preempted a program or two there in the past, But As For WPTZ In Burlington though, in the past they used to preempt some NBC shows as well, here are some that WPTZ never even carried.

NBC News Overnight
GO!
Hot Potato
The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour
Santa Barbara
Let's Make A Deal (1990 Version)
Trialwatch
Wheel Of Fortune (Bob Goen Version)
Cover To Cover
The Jane Whitney Show
The Other Side
Real Life

Wasn't Jane Whitney a syndicated show?

 

[Mario500]

Wasn't Jane Whitney a syndicated show?

Yes.

 

[AKA]

KXLY spend a good chunk of the early- and mid-70s shuffling around and pre-empting CBS' primetime lineup. Some later shows were shown at 7:30 for no particular reason, and others (usually movies, but sometimes series reruns) were bumped altogether for syndicated movies in the station's library. They also passed on some daytime shows and the entirety of the network's late night lineup.

Eventually, CBS had enough (especially with the prime time tinkering) and stripped the station's affiliation without first lining up a new station in the market. KREM ended up landing CBS, and KREM's former ABC affiliation went to KXLY by default.