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WHIO FM 95.7 Update

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From Ohio Media Watch - January 18th:

http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com/2008/01/friday-warmup.html

WHIO-FM MOVE SET?: OMW hears that the move of Cox talk WHIO-FM 95.7 Piqua, currently simulcasting the company's WHIO/1290 Dayton, has been announced as being approved.

The application to move the station from Piqua to the northern Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville was filed a year ago, and at least at this writing, there's no indication on the FCC website that it has been approved. (The FCC web database has lagged behind reality in the past.)

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I guess we could argue the point of "lightly sourced" vs. fact - stay tuned!


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A month and a half later, and still no CP issued. Either the FCC system is really slow, or something else is off...
 
New transmitter being installed...that tells the casual observer that this puppy isn't being moved to the Cincinnati suburbs any time soon.
 
BobOnTheJob said:
New transmitter being installed...that tells the casual observer that this puppy isn't being moved to the Cincinnati suburbs any time soon.
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Actually- two new transmitters. The first one was last night, the new backup transmitter, in a temporary spot, so that the transmitter building can be stripped on the inside and completely redone.

Then the new main transmitter will be put in place, and the backup transmitter moved to it's final resting place beside the main. This will make a really solid transmitting plant for WHIO-FM.

And I'd say it will be around for a long time.
 
A question for Greg.

Just outta curiosity, what brings a outfit like COX to the point in which they decide to replace transmitters? Do you go by the number of hours on the old transmitters, number of years, condition, if they are problematic, damaged from lightning or surges, or how efficient they are from a energy standpoint? Also another question, I remember back when 95.7 was WPTW / WCLR, and nearly every time there was a descent thunderstorm or snow storm 95.7 would be off the air because of a power outage. Has COX invested in a backup generator for the transmitter site? As its rare that 95.7 is ever off the air anymore for any reason.
 
I missed this thread back in 2008, and it started with my blog! :D

(Point to board staff: I have no problem if OMW is quoted in full here. While I suppose there is a default copyright on my blog, it doesn't bother me.)

(Yes, I'm responding to an edit from 2008. :D)

I can barely remember this whole thing, but we had information from the market at the time that Cox was going to split off 95.7 for a move to the Cincinnati market for a new owner - First Broadcasting, IIRC - and the plan (at the time) was that they would supplant WHIO's FM side on another FM...I think the one that was moving from Xenia?

It fell apart at some point, presumably, and WHIO-FM remains and still will remain on 95.7 as far as I know. We don't really pay attention to Ohio radio outside of Northeast Ohio, anymore.
 
It was never officially announced (transfer of 95.7 to First when it moved to Sharonville), but IIRC First did all the engineering study for the move.

Wasn't WZLR/95.3 Xenia heading west to a Dayton site? I seem to recall that many believed 95.3 would pick up the WHIO-FM simulcast when 95.7 went south for First Broadcasting.

Sure enough, from the now-dismissed app to move 95.3:

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101350731&qnum=5320&copynum=1&exhcnum=2

Notice the First Broadcasting logo on the map, even.

microbob said:
First Broadcasting probably ran out of money in order to make the move.
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And that's probably why WZLR never moved, either.
 
Josh_Cols said:
A question for Greg.

Just outta curiosity, what brings a outfit like COX to the point in which they decide to replace transmitters? Do you go by the number of hours on the old transmitters, number of years, condition, if they are problematic, damaged from lightning or surges, or how efficient they are from a energy standpoint? Also another question, I remember back when 95.7 was WPTW / WCLR, and nearly every time there was a descent thunderstorm or snow storm 95.7 would be off the air because of a power outage. Has COX invested in a backup generator for the transmitter site? As its rare that 95.7 is ever off the air anymore for any reason.
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Since the old transmitter at WHIO-FM in Piqua was installed in the 1970s and there was no backup, it really wasn't a question. It wasn't a particularly problematic transmitter, but it was time for it to go away. It is now in storage


We had a Harris HT-25 from WHKO which was only in use 5 years, which we sent back to Harris to be changed to 95.7 to be the new main transmitter. And we had a brand new BE 10-S transmitter in the company which will now be the backup at WHIO-FM.

And long before my time we had a 60 KVA Kohler backup power generator installed at the site. So once we are done with this project, WHIO-FM will have an almost new transmitter, a brand new backup transmitter, and a backup power generator at the site.

I think we are building a very reliable site for WHIO which will serve it for years to come.
 
Thanks for the follow up Greg.

Sounds like 95.7 is hooked up. I didn't realize the transmitter was a 1970's model as the on air product always sounded great especially after COX acquired 95.7. I am guessing up the road in Celina WCSM no doubt is still using a 1970's transmitter (or earlier), seeing how they are still using a jingle package thats older then me. I bet the newer Harris unit is a whole lot more efficient and cost less to operate then the 1970's beast. I guess my only lingering question, how long has 95.7 been at their current tower? Wasn't the new stick built about the time the WPTW studios burnt down in the late 80's or early 90's?

Being that WHIO FM 95.7 tower is basically in a corn field, that Kohler generator I reckon is probably a diesel or propane model. Being a engineer (not in the broadcast industry), Im a HUGE Kohler generator proponent, I actually have a 45kw natural gas unit that back's up my entire house. Kohler units I find produce some of the "cleanest" power and a true 60 Hertz, which is important for expensive radio station equipment, and expensive toys in my house like my Lutron Radio RA2 lighting system, RTI home automation, distributed audio and video, etc. Not to mention, unlike some of the Kohler competitors, Kohlers always seem to work, rarely have I ever had to go out for a "no start".
 
Josh_Cols said:
Thanks for the follow up Greg.

Sounds like 95.7 is hooked up. I didn't realize the transmitter was a 1970's model as the on air product always sounded great especially after COX acquired 95.7. I am guessing up the road in Celina WCSM no doubt is still using a 1970's transmitter (or earlier), seeing how they are still using a jingle package thats older then me. I bet the newer Harris unit is a whole lot more efficient and cost less to operate then the 1970's beast. I guess my only lingering question, how long has 95.7 been at their current tower? Wasn't the new stick built about the time the WPTW studios burnt down in the late 80's or early 90's?

Being that WHIO FM 95.7 tower is basically in a corn field, that Kohler generator I reckon is probably a diesel or propane model. Being a engineer (not in the broadcast industry), Im a HUGE Kohler generator proponent, I actually have a 45kw natural gas unit that back's up my entire house. Kohler units I find produce some of the "cleanest" power and a true 60 Hertz, which is important for expensive radio station equipment, and expensive toys in my house like my Lutron Radio RA2 lighting system, RTI home automation, distributed audio and video, etc. Not to mention, unlike some of the Kohler competitors, Kohlers always seem to work, rarely have I ever had to go out for a "no start".
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I don't recall the efficiency of the old Collins, but the new Harris is 79.3% efficient.

We tend to prefer Onan generators at Cox, though all of them in the Dayton area or Kohler and they are very reliable.
 
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