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"Whitesnake, Fall Out Boy, and Rob Thomas coming up next on WSTW..."

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eGillCVI

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Why Whitesnake? And even if it tests well (God help us all), why sell it on the air? If you have to play it, that's one thing but to actually say it? Geesh.
 
Whats wrong with Whitesnake, a fantastic band, and so much better than promoting Kanye West....
 
While I'm sure we all appreciate your feedback, I'm also interested in hearing from someone who doesn't use this forum primarily to push a racist agenda.

BTW, I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Surely you know that you're pushing a racist agenda and I couldn't care less. I just have a legit question and you aren't able to answer it objectively. I'm just trying to make sure I get some legit answers too. After all, there's got to be a reason to talk up Whitesnake other than the fact that they're not called Blacksnake.

Word up, yo!

> Whats wrong with Whitesnake, a fantastic band, and so much
> better than promoting Kanye West....
>
 
While I have to admit I find it odd that WSTW is playing (let alone teasing) Whitesnake, I find it downright silly to say that "Klassik" and/or WSTW is "racist" for not playing/teasing Kanye West.

You were just trying to be funny, right?
 
> Why Whitesnake? And even if it tests well (God help us
> all), why sell it on the air? If you have to play it,
> that's one thing but to actually say it? Geesh.

Emphasizes the variety.

I do notice a lot of Hot ACs doing that. They frontsell two current acts and add "and some 80's retro from..." some band we haven't heard from since. I bet they only mention the ones that test through the roof though.

I always think it's funny when they frontsell bands that only get one hit played. Are 25-44 females listening to the Whitesnake frontsell and thinking "Ooh! I hope it's 'Here I Go Again'."
 
Why is everything labled Racist, when it has to do with a white/black issue??? Just because WS is a Rock band and West is a Rapper its a racist issue. I guess West's remarks about the Hurricane was not racist in any way, shape or form. Give it a rest already.
 
> While I have to admit I find it odd that WSTW is playing
> (let alone teasing) Whitesnake, I find it downright silly to
> say that "Klassik" and/or WSTW is "racist" for not
> playing/teasing Kanye West.
>
> You were just trying to be funny, right?

You have obviously never read Klassik's previous posts. All you have to do is look back every two weeks or so for either a whiny "Where is my rock station?" thread or a bitter "Why are they catering to the minorities with all these Urban stations?" thread. You can pretty much set your watch by them. I don't post to this board often, due to the fact that I am not currently working in the business, but I do visit the site regularly and it gets very old to see this guy's name come up when posters are looking for objectivity.
 
Funny thing I remeber when I was at MIX. Every Rose Has It's Thorns was like the highest testing song. And it tested well for MIX, MGK and MMR...I bet Whitesnake tests real well although in the same breath as Fall Out Boy and Rob Thomas is kinda funny.
 
> > While I have to admit I find it odd that WSTW is playing
> > (let alone teasing) Whitesnake, I find it downright silly
> to
> > say that "Klassik" and/or WSTW is "racist" for not
> > playing/teasing Kanye West.
> >
> > You were just trying to be funny, right?
>
> You have obviously never read Klassik's previous posts. All
> you have to do is look back every two weeks or so for either
> a whiny "Where is my rock station?" thread or a bitter "Why
> are they catering to the minorities with all these Urban
> stations?" thread. You can pretty much set your watch by
> them. I don't post to this board often, due to the fact
> that I am not currently working in the business, but I do
> visit the site regularly and it gets very old to see this
> guy's name come up when posters are looking for objectivity.
>

Well, where are the rock stations? We do have an overabundance of urban stations. I have never read a post of Klassik's that comes out and bashes a certain race. He is voicing an opinion - that isn't racism.

Dude, get a life!
 
> Well, where are the rock stations? We do have an
> overabundance of urban stations. I have never read a post
> of Klassik's that comes out and bashes a certain race. He
> is voicing an opinion - that isn't racism.
>
> Dude, get a life!
>
This is sarcastic... Right? RIGHT!?
*looks around nervously*
 
> While I'm sure we all appreciate your feedback, I'm also
> interested in hearing from someone who doesn't use this
> forum primarily to push a racist agenda.
>
> BTW, I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Surely you know that
> you're pushing a racist agenda and I couldn't care less. I
> just have a legit question and you aren't able to answer it
> objectively. I'm just trying to make sure I get some legit
> answers too. After all, there's got to be a reason to talk
> up Whitesnake other than the fact that they're not called
> Blacksnake.
>
> Word up, yo!
>
> > Whats wrong with Whitesnake, a fantastic band, and so much
>
> > better than promoting Kanye West....
> >
>


Another twisted distorted person, boy are we in trouble. What was racist about that? He was comparing Genres. Get the nose ring out of your nostrils.
White Snake are a bunch of musicians that play their own instuments, sing their own notes, write their own music. "Here I go Again" was a melodic intro into good hard sounding rocker you can sing to.
Kanye West is another 15 minute famer with samples, no vocal chords, no song writing skills, no instruments. Maybe some production and most is done for him. Just another corporate record company discovery to be placed in our faces. And to replace Jay Z, and probably 50 cents who's 15-20 minutes are probably coming to an end because Kanye is louder. Especially politically.

Now you want to compare races.....Wilson Pickett. What's wrong with him. Yes he passed recently, but even in his last moments he could hold a note better then Kanye. That was a singer, songwriter, performer. Yes he was loud, but you wouldn't know it because you didn't have the same type a press behind someone like that with super talent. No hype , no glamouration. He could have shown up anybody on stage. The press only hypes stars for the Jerry Springer crowd.

Rap sucks, yes it's predominately black, so be it. It sucks. And the music industry and radio is over run by it. And that's why the industry isn't selling. Don't blame Napster. This was showing signs even when the CD became big. What kept it alive was adults re-buying their collection and catalog from companies like Rhino which made up for 50% of the sales compared to current product. Were talking as far as 1988-89. You take away catalog, then you just have marginal or moderate sales. Then it really dipped in the mid 90's.
Let me take a pause here so I can read the rest of this self destructional person here.................................

OOOOOOK! I think I read enough....let's propose another ban or our free speech. We shall no longer be allowed to mention artist with color in them. No Whitesnake, No Blackstreet, Brownstone, Green Day, Barry White, Red Skelton whatever, this is too offensive for all of us to read.

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by apco25 on 01/28/06 04:54 AM.</FONT></P>
 
I think you are the one who should give it a rest already. But I wasn't even asking you to. It's a free country. We can all say whatever we want, even if it does make you look like an idiot.

> Why is everything labled Racist, when it has to do with a
> white/black issue??? Just because WS is a Rock band and West
> is a Rapper its a racist issue. I guess West's remarks about
> the Hurricane was not racist in any way, shape or form.
> Give it a rest already.
>
 
Another uniformed person who comments without knowing what he/she's talking about. LOL. I didn't finish reading so hopefully you didn't go on to make any valid points. ha

Oh, I just skimmed and...no, it looks like you stayed on the race thing. Pity.



> Another twisted distorted person, boy are we in trouble.
> What was racist about that? He was comparing Genres. Get the
> nose ring out of your nostrils.
> White Snake are a bunch of musicians that play their own
> instuments, sing their own notes, write their own music.
> "Here I go Again" was a melodic intro into good hard
> sounding rocker you can sing to.
> Kanye West is another 15 minute famer with samples, no vocal
> chords, no song writing skills, no instruments. Maybe some
> production and most is done for him. Just another corporate
> record company discovery to be placed in our faces. And to
> replace Jay Z, and probably 50 cents who's 15-20 minutes are
> probably coming to an end because Kanye is louder.
> Especially politically.
>
> Now you want to compare races.....Wilson Pickett. What's
> wrong with him. Yes he passed recently, but even in his last
> moments he could hold a note better then Kanye. That was a
> singer, songwriter, performer. Yes he was loud, but you
> wouldn't know it because you didn't have the same type a
> press behind someone like that with super talent. No hype ,
> no glamouration. He could have shown up anybody on stage.
> The press only hypes stars for the Jerry Springer crowd.
>
> Rap sucks, yes it's predominately black, so be it. It sucks.
> And the music industry and radio is over run by it. And
> that's why the industry isn't selling. Don't blame Napster.
> This was showing signs even when the CD became big. What
> kept it alive was adults re-buying their collection and
> catalog from companies like Rhino which made up for 50% of
> the sales compared to current product. Were talking as far
> as 1988-89. You take away catalog, then you just have
> marginal or moderate sales. Then it really dipped in the mid
> 90's.
> Let me take a pause here so I can read the rest of this
> self destructional person
> here.................................
>
> OOOOOOK! I think I read enough....let's propose another ban
> or our free speech. We shall no longer be allowed to mention
> artist with color in them. No Whitesnake, No Blackstreet,
> Brownstone, Green Day, Barry White, Red Skelton whatever,
> this is too offensive for all of us to read.
>
 
> While I have to admit I find it odd that WSTW is playing
> (let alone teasing) Whitesnake, I find it downright silly to
> say that "Klassik" and/or WSTW is "racist" for not
> playing/teasing Kanye West.
>
> You were just trying to be funny, right?
>

I was making humor out of Klassik's posting history. Trust me, I'm not racist: I'm white and all my friends are black. Racism pisses me off like you wouldn't believe.
 
<font size=7>Thank you!</font size>

> You have obviously never read Klassik's previous posts. All
> you have to do is look back every two weeks or so for either
> a whiny "Where is my rock station?" thread or a bitter "Why
> are they catering to the minorities with all these Urban
> stations?" thread. You can pretty much set your watch by
> them. I don't post to this board often, due to the fact
> that I am not currently working in the business, but I do
> visit the site regularly and it gets very old to see this
> guy's name come up when posters are looking for objectivity.
>
 
> > Well, where are the rock stations? We do have an
> > overabundance of urban stations. I have never read a post
>
> > of Klassik's that comes out and bashes a certain race. He
>
> > is voicing an opinion - that isn't racism.
> >
> > Dude, get a life!
> >
> This is sarcastic... Right? RIGHT!?
> *looks around nervously*

LOL. Isn't it sad?
 
> Well, where are the rock stations? We do have an
> overabundance of urban stations. I have never read a post
> of Klassik's that comes out and bashes a certain race. He
> is voicing an opinion - that isn't racism.
>
> Dude, get a life!
>

I agree with you
 
attempted clarification

> Another uniformed person who comments without knowing what
> he/she's talking about. LOL. I didn't finish reading so
> hopefully you didn't go on to make any valid points. ha
>
> Oh, I just skimmed and...no, it looks like you stayed on the
> race thing. Pity.


Read E. Gill's initial post, one more time, slowly and out loud, invite a friend to clarify if necessary. He was expressing an opinion that it was kind of weird to be selling a Whitesnake song "coming up next", on WSTW, 20 years after the song peaked. He never said the song sucked, or had no place on radio, he just thought that was odd. He never said Kanye West should have been put in its place. (I personally do not like West's music very much, but he has sold a few more CD's in recent months than Whitesnake - sarcasm intentional, who I do still listen to on occassion)

KlassiKKountry is obviously a rock fan, if you take the time to read some of his posts, pick 5, he basically says the same thing over and over, and often implies that black people have too many stations, and whitey doesn't have enough, even though white people, especially young white males, listen to stations such as Power, 100.3, and 96.5, just as much, if not more than African Americans do.

If one of the radio companies in town thought they could make money off a new modern or active rock station, they would do it!! I would welcome the addition, but I'm not holding my breath.

Now, E-Gill, back to your point, I agree it was weird to clump Whitesnake into that particular group of "coming up next". It was not an 80's weekend (or weekday), that song still gets a ton of airplay for a 20+ year old song on MMR, BEN, YSP, etc..., so there was no shock value in it. Now, KlassiKK, will they still be saying "coming up next, Kanye West" in 20 years? Maybe, maybe not, but thats not for just you to decide!
 
Re: attempted clarification

> > Another uniformed person who comments without knowing what
>
> > he/she's talking about. LOL. I didn't finish reading so
> > hopefully you didn't go on to make any valid points. ha
> >
> > Oh, I just skimmed and...no, it looks like you stayed on
> the
> > race thing. Pity.
>
>
> Read E. Gill's initial post, one more time, slowly and
> out loud, invite a friend to clarify if necessary. He was
> expressing an opinion that it was kind of weird to be
> selling a Whitesnake song "coming up next", on WSTW, 20
> years after the song peaked. He never said the song sucked,
> or had no place on radio, he just thought that was odd. He
> never said Kanye West should have been put in its place. (I
> personally do not like West's music very much, but he has
> sold a few more CD's in recent months than Whitesnake -
> sarcasm intentional, who I do still listen to on occassion)
>
> KlassiKKountry is obviously a rock fan, if you take the time
> to read some of his posts, pick 5, he basically says the
> same thing over and over, and often implies that black
> people have too many stations, and whitey doesn't have
> enough, even though white people, especially young white
> males, listen to stations such as Power, 100.3, and 96.5,
> just as much, if not more than African Americans do.
>
> If one of the radio companies in town thought they could
> make money off a new modern or active rock station, they
> would do it!! I would welcome the addition, but I'm not
> holding my breath.

That crowd left and went over to the Internet or satellite like many groups. I'm one of them myself, and with so many new resources, and couldn't give a crap what terrestrial radio does.
Maybe it's the times that we don't realize and i'm not generalizing, if you want rock, real top 40, and not obsessive rap/hip hop or spanish on your radio dial like it seems now, maybe whites and adults in general are just throwing up their hands or just looking down on terrestrial and will just move on to a new frontier or neighborhood for music. And that's why what's happening That Klassik is complaining about.

And Klassik feels like it's taking over his world, when he probably needs to move on with the rest of us to the world he 's seeking to stay in. And That is Internet and Satellite my friend.

Same with movies...you don't need your VCR or DVD much longer. The stores that cater to these people are in lower incomes as far as mom and pop operations go.
Move along with the rest to streaming.
>
> Now, E-Gill, back to your point, I agree it was weird to
> clump Whitesnake into that particular group of "coming up
> next". It was not an 80's weekend (or weekday), that song
> still gets a ton of airplay for a 20+ year old song on MMR,
> BEN, YSP, etc..., so there was no shock value in it. Now,
> KlassiKK, will they still be saying "coming up next, Kanye
> West" in 20 years? Maybe, maybe not, but thats not for just
> you to decide!
>
 
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