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WHIZ-WCVO

Looks like they moved quick on this one too, 92.7's site is already down and pointing to the Promise at 89.3 (guess this is why the Promise Network recently cut the replays of minstries in favor of Music...

http://www.927theriver.com/

Guess we all know now the WHIZ Group will likely sell off 102.5 FM once it relocates to Baltimore and starts to serve columbus as a rimshooter. with WHIZ's current AC format moving to 92.7 and likely taking the calls WHIZ-FM.

Now the only thing. Who will pick up 102.5...

Will be interesting next year with 101.7 moving to New albany, 102.5 moving to Balitmore....
 
xmusicmatt said:
Looks like they moved quick on this one too, 92.7's site is already down and pointing to the Promise at 89.3 (guess this is why the Promise Network recently cut the replays of minstries in favor of Music...

http://www.927theriver.com/

Guess we all know now the WHIZ Group will likely sell off 102.5 FM once it relocates to Baltimore and starts to serve columbus as a rimshooter. with WHIZ's current AC format moving to 92.7 and likely taking the calls WHIZ-FM.

Now the only thing. Who will pick up 102.5...

Will be interesting next year with 101.7 moving to New albany, 102.5 moving to Balitmore....

Dont forget 104.3 WJZK Moving to West Jefferson
 
Looks like they moved quick on this one too, 92.7's site is already down and pointing to the Promise at 89.3 (guess this is why the Promise Network recently cut the replays of minstries in favor of Music...

Music over repeats teaching programs usually means more listeners which in return means more donors for the Promise network wide. This is a very smart move by Dan, Scott and the guys at the Promise.

Although it is sad to see CVCO let 92.7 go... I can see how this is a very smart move on the companies part. 92.7 always had trouble getting the needed support. With the move to 89.3 and the Promise format, they basically just pay the monthly electric bill, and get to cover the same general area.
 
michiana_media said:
Although it is sad to see CVCO let 92.7 go... I can see how this is a very smart move on the companies part. 92.7 always had trouble getting the needed support. With the move to 89.3 and the Promise format, they basically just pay the monthly electric bill, and get to cover the same general area.

Cheaper electric bill too, I am sure its cheaper to power the transmitter for 89.3 WZNP than it was for 92.7. Plus WZNP is a totally brand new plant they built so its likely more efficient than the 92.7 Site south of Zanesville. The only thing at WZNP's site is a satellite dish and automation PC (it's all programmed out of Columbus).. they dont have the upkeep they had on the WCVZ Studio site East of Zanesville. (Plus the profit made off the sale is going to keep their debt down from the purchase of WRFD... which will bring them cash from the pay to pray programming they air. Overall CVCO I think knows what their doing and their keeping their costs down while still serving the area. And whlie it does not benfit CVCO, WHIZ keeps their listener base in Zanesville with WHIZ FM's programming moving to 92.7 as they send 102.5 off to rimshoot Columbus.
 
xmusicmatt said:
Now the only thing. Who will pick up 102.5...
Will be interesting next year with 101.7 moving to New albany, 102.5 moving to Baltimore....

102.5 may not be moving to Baltimore as early as next year because they still don't have the zoning board approval for the new tower and that's currently in Limbo. The CP for the move-in runs out on Oct. 4, 2009 so
there is not a lot of time left to to get approval for the new tower. That said, it looks like they may try to
sell the CP and let the new owner haggle about zoning for the new tower. :-\
 
The Zoning issue was re submitted to Bloom township in August. and up for review in the next few weeks. They are very slow updating their minutes on the website (last update was at the end of August) but it may already be approved.


quote directly from public minutes on Aug 27, 2008

Update on tower issue: The BZA held a public hearing on this issue last week and tabled it until the next meeting in September. The prosecutor’s office (Jason Dolin) is still reviewing the easement issue and letter of credit as well as working out issues with the other attorney. He will have it to me for action at next meeting.
 
From what Boom Township Zoning Board tells me, the Zoning issue they have with the proposed WHIZ-FM
tower being built in Farfield county is now in the litigation stage. Because both parties are in litigation over
the proposed tower, no further information is available from them.

So, anyone want to speculate when WHIZ-FM will(If ever) take to the airways in Cbus? Last year, at least
one person on this board said they will be on the air in 2008 and I said it won't happen in 2008 because of the problems/issues the owners of WHIZ are having getting their new tower zoned with Boom Township Zoning Board.

Now, what is hard for me to understand is why the zoning issue wasn't straightened out before the owners
of WHIZ-FM applied for a C.P. with the FCC for the new tower site.

Allfirdup said:
The Zoning issue was re submitted to Bloom township in August. and up for review in the next few weeks. They are very slow updating their minutes on the website (last update was at the end of August) but it may already be approved.

quote directly from public minutes on Aug 27, 2008

Update on tower issue: The BZA held a public hearing on this issue last week and tabled it until the next meeting in September. The prosecutor’s office (Jason Dolin) is still reviewing the easement issue and letter of credit as well as working out issues with the other attorney. He will have it to me for action at next meeting.
 
WHIZ Has taken over WCVZ.. They faded out of the River's automation at 12:06 with about 10 seconds of dead air and then faded into a song on WHIZ 102.5... after the ABC News they ID'ed as "Today's HIts and Yesterday's favorites Z102 and 92.7".
 
xmusicmatt said:
Now the only thing. Who will pick up 102.5...

Will be interesting next year with 101.7 moving to New albany, 102.5 moving to Balitmore....

I'll try to get this all correct (going from memory from about a year ago).

102.5 moves to Fairfield Co., a station in Jackson wants to move to Frazeysburg - they are on 96.7

WCMJ (Cambridge) moves to 102.7 with a power increase and they get to move their site for WBIK (92.1) to a better location.

Whew - what a mess of moves.
 
kinda reminds one of the great frquency swap during july 2001 in cleveland:

salem moved wknr from 1220 to 850, moved whk(the word) from 98.1 to 1220 and put religious talk on 1420 after buying it from cleveland classical radio, and sold solid gospel 640 to clear channel..
cleveland classical radio sold 95.5 to salem to become the fish, and moved classical to 104.9 from 850.
clear channel moved wkdd from 96.5 to 98.1 for hot ac, moved the kiss from 104.9 to 96.5, put the mix on 107.5, wgar stayed at 99.5, wmji stayed at 105.7 and the big one pounded out at 1100.
whlo simulcast wkdd for 6 months prior to becoming newstalk generatiuon 2.0 in january 2002.

thru it all, no new cps, and one freq changes from akron to cleveland.
 
Allfirdup said:
Dont forget 104.3 WJZK Moving to West Jefferson

That can't happen now because WCVO-FM has a new CP to move to a new tower site. The new tower site for WCVO won't allow 104.3 to move to
it's planed tower site. It's looks like WCVO broke it's agreement with Saga's 104.3. Here is more info on the WCVO application to move it's tower site:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs...h.cgi?exhibit_id=753853&formid=301&q_num=5260 where it mentions it no longer has
a agreement with 104.3. So, what will become of 104.3? Will Saga file to move it to even a different location or will it stay right where it is?
 
gabigley1 said:
Allfirdup said:
Dont forget 104.3 WJZK Moving to West Jefferson

That can't happen now because WCVO-FM has a new CP to move to a new tower site. The new tower site for WCVO won't allow 104.3 to move to
it's planed tower site. It's looks like WCVO broke it's agreement with Saga's 104.3. Here is more info on the WCVO application to move it's tower site:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs...h.cgi?exhibit_id=753853&formid=301&q_num=5260 where it mentions it no longer has
a agreement with 104.3. So, what will become of 104.3? Will Saga file to move it to even a different location or will it stay right where it is?

Assuming that’s true, it means Columbus loses what would have been the best class A move-in in years.

Meanwhile, while a recent Arbitron report shows that the Classic Hits fromat continues to explode, “Columbus” only has a poor syndicated version of it on Saga’s currently super-marginal signal at 104.3.

What can I say? It’s Columbus. The ball never bounces right here. It *could*, were it not for the local managers of big signals, a group of inveterate cruisers who know they can be lazy (or make just plain dumb decisions) -- and still make their numbers (and keep their jobs) due to the luxury of so little vaible competition (viable meaning “big stick").
 
Has anyone noticed (or does anyone even care) that WODB has been mono recently, or that they have been missing stopsets with dead air and then firing the spots during songs? If that is the best Saga can do, everyone would be better off if they didn't move it in at all.
 
CatFM said:
Has anyone noticed (or does anyone even care) that WODB has been mono recently, or that they have been missing stopsets with dead air and then firing the spots during songs? If that is the best Saga can do, everyone would be better off if they didn't move it in at all.

Maybe they gone to mono on purpose? Now, at least they will have a significantly larger coverage area then when they were in stereo.
 
CatFM said:
Has anyone noticed (or does anyone even care) that WODB has been mono recently, or that they have been missing stopsets with dead air and then firing the spots during songs?  If that is the best Saga can do, everyone would be better off if they didn't move it in at all. 

That is bad, indeed.  I would like to think that if they were somehow successful with a significant signal upgrade, they would be planning on going live again and watching the store more carefully.  I mean, come on, Radio-Info's "Radio Done Right" feature story has Saga head Ed Christian crowing about how HIS company sets an example for the industry by realizing and acting upon the value of "live and local."
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
CatFM said:
Has anyone noticed (or does anyone even care) that WODB has been mono recently, or that they have been missing stopsets with dead air and then firing the spots during songs? If that is the best Saga can do, everyone would be better off if they didn't move it in at all.

That is bad, indeed. I would like to think that if they were somehow successful with a significant signal upgrade, they would be planning on going live again and watching the store more carefully. I mean, come on, Radio-Info's "Radio Done Right" feature story has Saga head Ed Christian crowing about how HIS company sets an example for the industry by realizing and acting upon the value of "live and local."

"Radio Done Cheaply" (and poorly) better describes Saga's poor effort in the Columbus market. I posted another message a while back about how bad it sounded when WJZA was 20 minutes off, complete with announced time checks, and how their "legal" ID came at :20. Between the weak signals and poorly executed voicetracking and satellite programming Saga offers this market on all but one of their stations, they really are the "Odd Lots" group of Columbus.
 
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