Maybe I'm a bit late on this, but an AE at Salem told me Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
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> Maybe I'm a bit late on this, but an AE at Salem told me
> Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
Had to go to the only radio in the house that gets a clear signal from them at night, but...they're running Mike Gallagher right now (11:35 PM ET).
-OA
> Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
Had to go to the only radio in the house that gets a clear signal from them at night, but...they're running Mike Gallagher right now (11:35 PM ET).
-OA
> > Maybe I'm a bit late on this, but an AE at Salem told me
> > Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
>
> Had to go to the only radio in the house that gets a clear
> signal from them at night, but...they're running Mike
> Gallagher right now (11:35 PM ET).
>
> -OA
>
What's the difference? They do the same show! You know: Liberals bad...Liberals bad....Liberals bad.....Liberals bad.....Liberals bad.......
> > Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
>
> Had to go to the only radio in the house that gets a clear
> signal from them at night, but...they're running Mike
> Gallagher right now (11:35 PM ET).
>
> -OA
>
What's the difference? They do the same show! You know: Liberals bad...Liberals bad....Liberals bad.....Liberals bad.....Liberals bad.......
> > > Maybe I'm a bit late on this, but an AE at Salem told me
>
> > > Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
> >
> > Had to go to the only radio in the house that gets a clear
>
> > signal from them at night, but...they're running Mike
> > Gallagher right now (11:35 PM ET).
> >
> > -OA
> >
>
>
> What's the difference? They do the same show! You know:
> Liberals bad...Liberals bad....Liberals bad.....Liberals
> bad.....Liberals bad.......
>
Savage throws in a fair of amount of republicans bad, republican bad into the mix because when they try to act like liberals they deserve attacking
>
> > > Savage was running until midnight every night. True?
> >
> > Had to go to the only radio in the house that gets a clear
>
> > signal from them at night, but...they're running Mike
> > Gallagher right now (11:35 PM ET).
> >
> > -OA
> >
>
>
> What's the difference? They do the same show! You know:
> Liberals bad...Liberals bad....Liberals bad.....Liberals
> bad.....Liberals bad.......
>
Savage throws in a fair of amount of republicans bad, republican bad into the mix because when they try to act like liberals they deserve attacking
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nate81
Guest
A (for now) Savage-less WHK...
Here's what I've gathered:
WHK is running the same Mike Gallagher show (!) back-to-back: from 9:30p-12a, and from 12a-3a. Dumped the horrific "America at Night" to do so.
Now, is this a preperation for a Savage add? Hopefully. ANYTHING'S better than Hugh Hewitt in the 6p-9p slot, and if Salem wants anyone to take the damn station seriously, they'd pick him up. Or Hannity.
The caveat: I'm by no means a fan of Savage - or of polar opposite Mike Malloy, either.
- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio
http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
Here's what I've gathered:
WHK is running the same Mike Gallagher show (!) back-to-back: from 9:30p-12a, and from 12a-3a. Dumped the horrific "America at Night" to do so.
Now, is this a preperation for a Savage add? Hopefully. ANYTHING'S better than Hugh Hewitt in the 6p-9p slot, and if Salem wants anyone to take the damn station seriously, they'd pick him up. Or Hannity.
The caveat: I'm by no means a fan of Savage - or of polar opposite Mike Malloy, either.
- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio
http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
> > What's the difference? They do the same show! You know:
>
> > Liberals bad...Liberals bad....Liberals bad.....Liberals
> > bad.....Liberals bad.......
> >
>
> Savage throws in a fair of amount of republicans bad,
> republican bad into the mix because when they try to act
> like liberals they deserve attacking
>
Oh well, that's different! Why ELSE would he ever critcize a Rebublican?
Glad you straightened me out about the fact that his show is not just "Liberal bad....Liberals bad". Enjoy the Kool-Aid. Sheesh.
>
> > Liberals bad...Liberals bad....Liberals bad.....Liberals
> > bad.....Liberals bad.......
> >
>
> Savage throws in a fair of amount of republicans bad,
> republican bad into the mix because when they try to act
> like liberals they deserve attacking
>
Oh well, that's different! Why ELSE would he ever critcize a Rebublican?
Glad you straightened me out about the fact that his show is not just "Liberal bad....Liberals bad". Enjoy the Kool-Aid. Sheesh.
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grups
Guest
Re: A (for now) Savage-less WHK...
I'm with HHH. Who CARES which rabid right-wing zealot is on there? It's the same hateful bile and propaganda regardless. You don't even need to turn these people on because you know what you're going to get, and it is anything but "intelligent talk," as WHK at least initially billed it. Have they started the nonstop attacks on public broadcasting yet?
I know some people on here are fascinated enough to discuss all sorts of arcana with respect to clearing various syndicated programs, but it just makes my eyes glaze over. Even the p!ss!ng contests among top 40 people in certain other markets are more entertaining and interesting. Phooey.
I'm with HHH. Who CARES which rabid right-wing zealot is on there? It's the same hateful bile and propaganda regardless. You don't even need to turn these people on because you know what you're going to get, and it is anything but "intelligent talk," as WHK at least initially billed it. Have they started the nonstop attacks on public broadcasting yet?
I know some people on here are fascinated enough to discuss all sorts of arcana with respect to clearing various syndicated programs, but it just makes my eyes glaze over. Even the p!ss!ng contests among top 40 people in certain other markets are more entertaining and interesting. Phooey.
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nate81
Guest
My simple gripes with WHK and Salem...
My problems with WHK are far-reaching. Bear in mind that I am of conservative thought:
It's just not the uniform approach to their talk shows: whatever you hear on Bennett's show is identical to what's on Laura, Dennis, Medved, Hewitt or Gallagher - and that IS a problem, indeed...
Nor is it only that Salem apparently - no, they DO - care more about WHK's on-air presentation than with 50KW sister station WKNR. (Oh, and both stations share the same PD in Mike Luczak!)
No, it's the fact that Salem packages WHK the same exact way as every other conservatalker they own. Big shock here. And (excluding KNUS/Denver, which has Hannity and does decently) they all are made-to-order for a 0.5 or 1.0 rating. It takes no effort to create or run a WHK: all you need is a small closet, an audio board w/ a $10 mic, a sattelite hookup, and a computer with Scott Studios!
And as I said earlier, I could care less about Savage and if WHK picks him up. The paytoilet weekends are more interesting to me, IMHO.
- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio
http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
My problems with WHK are far-reaching. Bear in mind that I am of conservative thought:
It's just not the uniform approach to their talk shows: whatever you hear on Bennett's show is identical to what's on Laura, Dennis, Medved, Hewitt or Gallagher - and that IS a problem, indeed...
Nor is it only that Salem apparently - no, they DO - care more about WHK's on-air presentation than with 50KW sister station WKNR. (Oh, and both stations share the same PD in Mike Luczak!)
No, it's the fact that Salem packages WHK the same exact way as every other conservatalker they own. Big shock here. And (excluding KNUS/Denver, which has Hannity and does decently) they all are made-to-order for a 0.5 or 1.0 rating. It takes no effort to create or run a WHK: all you need is a small closet, an audio board w/ a $10 mic, a sattelite hookup, and a computer with Scott Studios!
And as I said earlier, I could care less about Savage and if WHK picks him up. The paytoilet weekends are more interesting to me, IMHO.
- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio
http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
Re: My simple gripes with WHK and Salem...
> No, it's the fact that Salem packages WHK the same exact way
> as every other conservatalker they own. Big shock here. And
> (excluding KNUS/Denver, which has Hannity and does decently)
> they all are made-to-order for a 0.5 or 1.0 rating. It takes
> no effort to create or run a WHK: all you need is a small
> closet, an audio board w/ a $10 mic, a sattelite hookup, and
> a computer with Scott Studios!
Nate, when do they need the $10 microphone? Do they actually air any local programming?
(OK, so if anyone DOES buy time on WHK locally, and needs to go on the air on weekends or something, they could use 1220's digs in the same building, I assume...)
It's almost as if Salem is afraid of *success* with its conservatalk stations. Let's say WHK/1420 picked up Hannity. Let's say Hannity started picking up the kind of ratings in Cleveland that he's picking up in Akron and Canton on WHLO/640. What would they do? They'd actually have to WORK at packaging and promoting Hannity. They'd have to take down one of those two or three billboards featuring Salem's own personalities and put up one with Hannity. And that's just the start!
It seems the primary mission of Salem's secular talk stations is simple: Pick up some spare change from advertisers hoping to reach the conservative diehard lifegroup which isn't listening to 1220, and spread the reach of their own syndicated programs so those programs can be sold nationally.
-OA
> No, it's the fact that Salem packages WHK the same exact way
> as every other conservatalker they own. Big shock here. And
> (excluding KNUS/Denver, which has Hannity and does decently)
> they all are made-to-order for a 0.5 or 1.0 rating. It takes
> no effort to create or run a WHK: all you need is a small
> closet, an audio board w/ a $10 mic, a sattelite hookup, and
> a computer with Scott Studios!
Nate, when do they need the $10 microphone? Do they actually air any local programming?
(OK, so if anyone DOES buy time on WHK locally, and needs to go on the air on weekends or something, they could use 1220's digs in the same building, I assume...)
It's almost as if Salem is afraid of *success* with its conservatalk stations. Let's say WHK/1420 picked up Hannity. Let's say Hannity started picking up the kind of ratings in Cleveland that he's picking up in Akron and Canton on WHLO/640. What would they do? They'd actually have to WORK at packaging and promoting Hannity. They'd have to take down one of those two or three billboards featuring Salem's own personalities and put up one with Hannity. And that's just the start!
It seems the primary mission of Salem's secular talk stations is simple: Pick up some spare change from advertisers hoping to reach the conservative diehard lifegroup which isn't listening to 1220, and spread the reach of their own syndicated programs so those programs can be sold nationally.
-OA
Re: My simple gripes with WHK and Salem...
>
> Nate, when do they need the $10 microphone? Do they
> actually air any local programming?
>
> (OK, so if anyone DOES buy time on WHK locally, and needs to
> go on the air on weekends or something, they could use
> 1220's digs in the same building, I assume...)
>
You should listen sunday nights, there's actually a local talk show with two guys who argue back and forth. One's conservative and one's liberal... Actually pretty entertaining!
It's sunday at 7 pm, I think it's the ONLY local political talk show on the station!!!!
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> Nate, when do they need the $10 microphone? Do they
> actually air any local programming?
>
> (OK, so if anyone DOES buy time on WHK locally, and needs to
> go on the air on weekends or something, they could use
> 1220's digs in the same building, I assume...)
>
You should listen sunday nights, there's actually a local talk show with two guys who argue back and forth. One's conservative and one's liberal... Actually pretty entertaining!
It's sunday at 7 pm, I think it's the ONLY local political talk show on the station!!!!
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nate81
Guest
Re: My simple gripes with WHK and Salem...
> >
> > Nate, when do they need the $10 microphone? Do they
> > actually air any local programming?
> >
> > (OK, so if anyone DOES buy time on WHK locally, and needs
> to
> > go on the air on weekends or something, they could use
> > 1220's digs in the same building, I assume...)
> >
>
>
> You should listen sunday nights, there's actually a local
> talk show with two guys who argue back and forth. One's
> conservative and one's liberal... Actually pretty
> entertaining!
>
> It's sunday at 7 pm, I think it's the ONLY local political
> talk show on the station!!!!
>
> Unknown Error
>
And you are right. I do know the liberal host is Cuyahoga County Democratic Party chief Kevin Kelley. Don't know who the conservative host is.
Oh, "Kelly's Korner" is the ONLY local political talk show - not just on WHK, but for much of Greater Cleveland! (Yeah, there's Bob Becker at WTAM, but Wills and Triv don't count here...) It's also brokered.
- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio
http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
> >
> > Nate, when do they need the $10 microphone? Do they
> > actually air any local programming?
> >
> > (OK, so if anyone DOES buy time on WHK locally, and needs
> to
> > go on the air on weekends or something, they could use
> > 1220's digs in the same building, I assume...)
> >
>
>
> You should listen sunday nights, there's actually a local
> talk show with two guys who argue back and forth. One's
> conservative and one's liberal... Actually pretty
> entertaining!
>
> It's sunday at 7 pm, I think it's the ONLY local political
> talk show on the station!!!!
>
> Unknown Error
>
And you are right. I do know the liberal host is Cuyahoga County Democratic Party chief Kevin Kelley. Don't know who the conservative host is.
Oh, "Kelly's Korner" is the ONLY local political talk show - not just on WHK, but for much of Greater Cleveland! (Yeah, there's Bob Becker at WTAM, but Wills and Triv don't count here...) It's also brokered.
- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio
http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>
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JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
Art McKoy
> Oh, "Kelly's Korner" is the ONLY local political talk show -
> not just on WHK, but for much of Greater Cleveland! (Yeah,
> there's Bob Becker at WTAM, but Wills and Triv don't count
> here...) It's also brokered.
>
> - nate81
>
Nate--
You forgot Art McKoy, Sunday nights on WTAM.
You've aksed for it. Now McKoy's gonna be on your doorstep late at night screaming "No justice, no peace" for all your neighbors to hear and be irritated--just like his listeners!
> Oh, "Kelly's Korner" is the ONLY local political talk show -
> not just on WHK, but for much of Greater Cleveland! (Yeah,
> there's Bob Becker at WTAM, but Wills and Triv don't count
> here...) It's also brokered.
>
> - nate81
>
Nate--
You forgot Art McKoy, Sunday nights on WTAM.
You've aksed for it. Now McKoy's gonna be on your doorstep late at night screaming "No justice, no peace" for all your neighbors to hear and be irritated--just like his listeners!
Mr. McCoy and WTAM...
> You've aksed for it. Now McKoy's gonna be on your doorstep
> late at night screaming "No justice, no peace" for all your
> neighbors to hear and be irritated--just like his listeners!
>
As far as I know, he's still doing the Sunday night show, right?
I ask for a reason. A WTAM news story actually used him for soundbites, due to his community activism about whatever issue they were covering. Mr. McCoy was not identified as being a WTAM host.
-OA
> You've aksed for it. Now McKoy's gonna be on your doorstep
> late at night screaming "No justice, no peace" for all your
> neighbors to hear and be irritated--just like his listeners!
>
As far as I know, he's still doing the Sunday night show, right?
I ask for a reason. A WTAM news story actually used him for soundbites, due to his community activism about whatever issue they were covering. Mr. McCoy was not identified as being a WTAM host.
-OA
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JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
Re: Mr. McCoy and WTAM...
> > You've aksed for it. Now McKoy's gonna be on your
> doorstep
> > late at night screaming "No justice, no peace" for all
> your
> > neighbors to hear and be irritated--just like his
> listeners!
> >
>
> As far as I know, he's still doing the Sunday night show,
> right?
>
> I ask for a reason. A WTAM news story actually used him for
> soundbites, due to his community activism about whatever
> issue they were covering. Mr. McCoy was not identified as
> being a WTAM host.
>
> -OA
>
He was as of two weeks ago--Triv was making fun of him and played a bit from Art's Sunday night show.
If they used his sound bite, they should have, in full disclosure, mentioned his show--for journalistic creds, and to advertise it.
Who's a better sound bite than Art, really?
> > You've aksed for it. Now McKoy's gonna be on your
> doorstep
> > late at night screaming "No justice, no peace" for all
> your
> > neighbors to hear and be irritated--just like his
> listeners!
> >
>
> As far as I know, he's still doing the Sunday night show,
> right?
>
> I ask for a reason. A WTAM news story actually used him for
> soundbites, due to his community activism about whatever
> issue they were covering. Mr. McCoy was not identified as
> being a WTAM host.
>
> -OA
>
He was as of two weeks ago--Triv was making fun of him and played a bit from Art's Sunday night show.
If they used his sound bite, they should have, in full disclosure, mentioned his show--for journalistic creds, and to advertise it.
Who's a better sound bite than Art, really?
Re: Mr. McCoy and WTAM...
> If they used his sound bite, they should have, in full
> disclosure, mentioned his show--for journalistic creds, and
> to advertise it.
>
> Who's a better sound bite than Art, really?
In my long and storied radio career (chuckle), I've run into a dozen Art McCoys. He's a fantastic sound bite. He's one of those guys you seek out if you're looking for good tape.
As far as the disclosure, I heard them do two versions of that story, and neither identified McCoy as one of their own hosts. I'm guessing that the people doing the story may not have been AWARE that he has that Sunday night show.
-OA
> If they used his sound bite, they should have, in full
> disclosure, mentioned his show--for journalistic creds, and
> to advertise it.
>
> Who's a better sound bite than Art, really?
In my long and storied radio career (chuckle), I've run into a dozen Art McCoys. He's a fantastic sound bite. He's one of those guys you seek out if you're looking for good tape.
As far as the disclosure, I heard them do two versions of that story, and neither identified McCoy as one of their own hosts. I'm guessing that the people doing the story may not have been AWARE that he has that Sunday night show.
-OA
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JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
WTAM Sunday night?
> > If they used his sound bite, they should have, in full
> > disclosure, mentioned his show--for journalistic creds,
> and
> > to advertise it.
> >
> > Who's a better sound bite than Art, really?
>
> In my long and storied radio career (chuckle), I've run into
> a dozen Art McCoys. He's a fantastic sound bite. He's one
> of those guys you seek out if you're looking for good tape.
>
> As far as the disclosure, I heard them do two versions of
> that story, and neither identified McCoy as one of their own
> hosts. I'm guessing that the people doing the story may not
> have been AWARE that he has that Sunday night show.
>
> -OA
>
Half the time I forget that WTAM even has the transmitter on after the post-game. I mean, for me, Saturday and/or Sunday night isn't prime talk-radio time (when I'm even in Cleveland--which is getting more rare the closer Pittsburgh moving day comes).
> > If they used his sound bite, they should have, in full
> > disclosure, mentioned his show--for journalistic creds,
> and
> > to advertise it.
> >
> > Who's a better sound bite than Art, really?
>
> In my long and storied radio career (chuckle), I've run into
> a dozen Art McCoys. He's a fantastic sound bite. He's one
> of those guys you seek out if you're looking for good tape.
>
> As far as the disclosure, I heard them do two versions of
> that story, and neither identified McCoy as one of their own
> hosts. I'm guessing that the people doing the story may not
> have been AWARE that he has that Sunday night show.
>
> -OA
>
Half the time I forget that WTAM even has the transmitter on after the post-game. I mean, for me, Saturday and/or Sunday night isn't prime talk-radio time (when I'm even in Cleveland--which is getting more rare the closer Pittsburgh moving day comes).
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