Who actually legally ID's themselves?

[ksradiogeek]

I'm about to get my hands on some recording software for airchecks. One thing I would love to record is legal ID's. From what I've learned, the CRTC does require it, but not necessarily enforce stations to do it. If they do, they don't exactly give a city (unless if its Toronto or some other major city; when I heard the first ID after 2Day FM launched in Niagara yesterday, I heard "2Day FM is CJED and CFLZ, 105.1 and 101.1, serving the Niagara Region" as just its ID). Who actually does ID that you know of? Also, what times do they do it? Its not always at the top from what I've heard.

 

[mimo]

Most of the Ottawa stations give legal ID's, with calls, and city. Many even do it at the top of the hour, Example "Team 1200 is CFGO, Ottawa."

 

[spunker88]

Kingston, ON stations that I listen to ID usually at the top of the hour and Ottawa stations I get over tropo ID but it can be at random times during the hour.

 

[Dan Sys]

The rules actually state that stations are required to give their legal ID's at the top of the hour. In the Vancouver area and Southwestern British Columbia as a whole it appears as if all stations are following the legal ID rules to a tee (except CBC facilities, of course).

It is Industry Canada that regulates legal ID requirements, not the CRTC.

 

[Dan Sys]

There was some discussion on "The Radio In Montreal" Yahoo Group a year or so ago about how virtually no stations in the Montreal area were giving out legal ID's. I am unaware if that situation still exists, but the theory back then was that the degree of enforcement lies within each Industry Canada field office.

 

[Gregg.]

I wonder why CBC is won't give legal I.D.'s? I suppose it's in their interest for us not to know call letters? It is enough to say "CBC Montreal" or "CBC Petersborough"?

 

[Dan Sys]

Likely because each originating CBC station has about 20 or 30 rebroadcasters. It would take 5 minutes to mention them all.

 

[mimo]

I think the only station in Montreal that gives ID's as they're supposed to is CKGM. CFMB always gives their calls as well and might have a very loose definition of a legal ID. I don't listen to Montreal FM. I'm out of reach of it and when I can hear it, nothing makes me want to stay on any station.

 

[fybush]

What would be the point of CBC giving an interminable list of callsigns for all its repeater stations? It's a national network. The brand is "CBC Radio 1" or "CBC Radio 2," not "CBLA-FM" or "CBK-1."

 

[ksradiogeek]

I listened to Virgin last night around Midnight (11 my time) for the start of their Club Mix show. Didn't mention "CJFM-FM" or anything before or after the start of it.

 

[EJM]

I've been occasionally listening online to the Rogers-owned All-News stations--most notably, CFFR during the Calgary floods, and CIWW after the bus/train collision in Ottawa. The only time that I definitely remember hearing a legal ID was at the bottom of the hour on the Ottawa station--and it was read by the anchor. I wasn't expecting these stations to have sounders, IDs, and other imaging that are as elaborate or high-energy as those that are on, say, WTOP; still, I was surprised that Rogers wasn't using (as far as I could tell) standard, produced IDs. (On a separate note, I was also surprised that CIWW dropped its coverage of that night's Blue Jays game--in part because the team is also owned by Rogers.)

 

[e-dawg]

I think CBC radio is not require to do call letters on the top of the hour since CB is not the legal ITU call letters for Canada. CB- is the legal call letters for Chile. I know CJBC 860 in Toronto (Radio-Canada La Premiere Chaine) does it every hour. As for Vancouver, I heard the legal call letters around 40 past the hour and usually buried within the commercials.

 

[mimo]

I've been occasionally listening online to the Rogers-owned All-News stations--most notably, CFFR during the Calgary floods, and CIWW after the bus/train collision in Ottawa. The only time that I definitely remember hearing a legal ID was at the bottom of the hour on the Ottawa station--and it was read by the anchor. I wasn't expecting these stations to have sounders, IDs, and other imaging that are as elaborate or high-energy as those that are on, say, WTOP; still, I was surprised that Rogers wasn't using (as far as I could tell) standard, produced IDs. (On a separate note, I was also surprised that CIWW dropped its coverage of that night's Blue Jays game--in part because the team is also owned by Rogers.)

They always ID at the bottom of the hour, it's very rare to hear one like that at the top but I have heard it. Since it was a major event as far as Ottawa was concerned, it was a go0d thing they dropped the game to focus on the accident. 1310 is really go0d about that the few times something major has happened here, with hyperfocus on the story, with many different angles. I was surprised to0, and on my break at work I listened that night instead of tuning to CFRB or TSN 690. They're still covering it in a way, with the funerals of the victims taking place, they're giving a back story to the victims, to put a real person behind the names. I'm very proud of them for how they've handled the whole event. They're doing what radio should be doing.