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Who and what is Jack...Mentioned alot in House songs

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Mid West Clubber

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Who is Jack,, and what does it mean to jack your Body,, I assume its a Dance of some sort... I heard it started in Chicago, but back when house started I was too young to go to any clubs at all... So i dont KNOW.... never heard it mentioned in indianapolis and Knoxville,, but in Chicago, if you dont know what jack is, you get laughed at, and they wont tell you.... P.sses me off when people are snobby like that, I just wanna throw my Vodka on them..... lol
 
They are all at 1club,,, as you know is a great site for Dance, CHAT, and really virtually all music, even news from both sides.... 1club and DI are the top best Dance-Music Portals,,, I say Music portals as they offer much variety, even though the focus is on Dance..... KJJ and SAl are cool, havent met Mickey oliver but Ive heard his mixes... good stuff.
 
I followed house back in the day....one of the few New Yorkers that was on it at its roots.

"Jack" is basically the slang for "move".

And that "preach" that you had started out with came from a UK redo of "Can You Feel It" where the classic Mr. Fingers track was in the background as the preacher started on the classic words that is in part of the post here. The original house track did not have vocals.
 
That preacher track was one I was talking about, but Jack makes sense...

Dont make me jack another night, tonight I wanna house you...DONT DONT DONT DONT DONT make me jack,,,,, is not about self sexual pleasure as my Mom and Aunt thought when I was way younger and used to hear it on B-96 and Z-95.... Nothing inappropriate about that song,,, just a rehash of dont make me wait.. This was in like 89-90..... I was only like 9 yrs old and already a Dance Fan... But since Chicago, Indianapolis, and Knoxville TN all had stations that played some dance, I thought every market did, I didnt realize that Hot 96 would be considered Dance station today,,, I thought there was too much urban on Hot 96, INDY,, Power 96 Miami ETC,,,, WTF was I thinking????? Its too bad I never got to listen to WBMX Chicago, or 95.3 TNZ in Knoxville,,,, I was locked on my fav stations and wasnt a radio geek then.. In Chicago i listened to B-96-z-95, 99.9 THE BUS CHR..... and Q-101 which was also a Dance Friendly CHR at the time,, but was more Adult than B or Z... The Hot Rockin Flame thrower... I think all Zs used that back in the 80s.
 
I hate it when people laugh and don't tell you anything, too! I especially hate it when grown adults do it, but since I'm not planning on going back to Atlanta anytime soon, I have nothing to worry about.

I have no idea what this Jack thing is about so I'm a useless source because I don't know jack.

I still don't even know for sure what this means;

Jack knight and dakoda house
All we wanna do is make you bounce
Monifah, would you turn me out?
Show me what your thing is all about
 
Yeah, the whole "Jack" thing was big during the house explosion of the late 80's. I remember a song called "Jack Le Freak" that was a house remix of Chic's "Le Freak" with the Jack sample added in. Also, another big record at the time with that "Jack...jack...jack" echo sample was "I Want to Be Your Property" by Blue Mercedes (you can hear it on You Tube. Just search for "Blue Mercedes 1987" and play the first result that comes up).

I'm also pretty sure it was just a hook that was sampled and became linked to house music and was used to mean "move" your body. And speaking of the dance stations you mentioned; as you know, I'm from East Tennessee, and I was a rabid fan of WTNZ in the late 80s. They still remain one of my all time favorite CHR's. Sure they were a small, pretty much broke, class A, rimshot station, but they were amazing. They were on the air from 1986 to 1988 (my senior year in high school and my first two years in college at U.T.). And I listened to them from morning till night time. One reason I loved the station was that I was becoming a big fan of dance during the house/freestyle/hiNRG boom in the late 80s, and WTNZ was the only place in town to hear it. Crosstown WOKI "I100" (which I know you loved, but honestly I hated that station during the Brother Clay, I100 years), completely ignored dance in favor of constant hair bands. I found out about dance while visiting other cities and listening to stations like WQHT "Hot 103/97" New York and WHLY "Y106" Orlando. And I couldn't believe it when 'TNZ signed on and someone in Knoxville was actually playing the stuff I loved.

I remember Saturday nights were the best and were always a "must listen" for me and my friends when we were out cruising. Because every Sat. night, WTNZ ran Jeff Wyatt's syndicated "American Dance Traxx" countdown followed by TNZ's own Saturday night dance party that lasted till midnight or so. They played some dance throughout the week, but they really got into it on Sat. night. You would hear tunes like the Blue Mercedes song I mentioned above, along with stuff like Mel and Kim "Showing Out" and "Respectable", Bomb the Bass "Beat 'Dis", S-Express "Theme From S-Express", American Soviets "C.C.C.P.", Kylie Minogue "I Should Be so Lucky", Sinitta "Boy Toy", Georgio "Lover's Lane", etc. (check all of these out on You Tube, if you've never heard them.) Also, they played all the Latin Freestyle stuff too like Will to Power "Dreamin" and "Say it's Gonna Rain", Noel "Silent Morning" and "Like a Child", Debbie Deb's "Lookout Weekend", "When I Hear Music"
and "I'm Searching", TKA "One Way Love", "Louder Than Love", and "Tears may Fall", etc. etc.

Ok, I'm rambling, but it was a great time for dance music and I wish it would happen again. And WTNZ was a great station that kept me connected to the music I loved, and that was very hard to find in Knoxville. (remember, this was way before the internet and satellite radio, so it was really hard to hear this music unless you were in the northeast or Florida where it received a lot of airplay. Thats why I listened to and taped songs off of WTNZ so religiously. (I only wish I had saved more. I only have a few snippets and short chopped up airchecks from them). I'm sure you already know the history of the station, but they began as "95-3 TNZ" or "Knoxville's Tennezzee" during 1986 and later evolved into "Power 95" during their last year from 87 to 88. They were a bit more dance friendly during the "TNZ" phase, but they still played a lot of dance and rhythmic stuff as "Power 95", that crosstown I 100 never touched. And they actually were pretty successful. The reason they went off the air was due to the owners going bankrupt. But ratings wise, they managed to pull almost a 5 share and came within a few tenths of a point of beating I 100 during their last book in '88. (And this was a class A rimshot up against a full class C 100kw stick at WOKI). So they certainly had a following. That's why it was so sad that they went bankrupt and went dark in the fall of '88, just when they ratings had really started to take off. Anyway, sorry for the long rambling post, but the mention of WTNZ always gets to me.

(Also, on a sidenote, WTNZ was home to many well known area personalites during their younger days. Tom Miller now at Citadel and WIVK, John Wilkerson now at WNML "the Sports Animal", Kim Hansard, now mornings at CHR "Star 102.1" Knoxville, and of course, Mike Keith the play by play voice of the Tennessee Titans. All of them got their start as dj's at 'TNZ. (My favorite was always the late Jeff Freeman and Mike Keith who did mornings and then afternoons as a team. "Freeman and Spike" with Screamin' Jeff Freeman and Mike "Spike" Keith was must listen radio and one of the best CHR shows I've ever heard).

Anyway, sorry you never got to listen to them when you were in the area back then, but you truly missed out. As I said, I hated I 100 at the time because they ignored dance and rhythmic stuff, but I lived and breathed 'TNZ. Check out some of those first few songs I mentioned to get a good feel of how dance sounded during the late 80's. Bomb the Bass, S-Express, Blue Mercedes, and American Soviets are all huge personal favs of mine from back in the day when I first got into dance music.
 
I remember I-100 played alot of Dance on Weekends between 88-93,, they had a Friday night Live to Air with JJ Randall...REMEMBER HIM... and they aired the Dance Friendly Open House Party on Saturdays, and sundays they had the Sunday Night Dedication party... They never had top notch air talent aside from JJ Randall,, but I wasnt into dance music as much back then, I was a Rocker,,, I lived between Knoxville and Asheville,,, Out of range of TNZ,,, I discovered Dance on Power 96 Miami,, but didnt really become a hardcore dance fan till 91 when we moved to Indiana and Chicago,,, Indianapolis had the dance heavy Hot 96,, NOW URBAN, and Chicago had Z-95, B-96, 99.9 THE BUS, and even 107.5 WGCI was heavy on House at the time and refered to themselves as Hit Music, or Hottest Music, but you could tell by the presentation that it was Urban... In fact WGCI URBAN is where I first heard Crystal Waters-Gypsy Woman... And in Indianapolis was the first place I heard songs like MARRS-Pump up the Volume,,, Snap-The Power,, Corina-Temptation... actually I heard Temptation years earlier on Power 96 Miami way before the song went top 10 on CHR charts. I guess B-96 Chicago, hot 96 Indy, and later in the mid 90s,, WMGI Terre Haute, and Miami's Y-100 got me hooked on Euro Dance... WOKI did play some Dance at night and Weekends,,, it was 99.9 Kiss FM in Asheville that ignored Dance in favor of hard Rock and AC.... ODD Mix,, but Kiss FM was fantastic from 92-93,, thats when they got Dancy.... In greenville SC WBBO 93.3 was Dance for a short while as well, but was out of range until about 30 miles south east of Knoxville....
 
Yeah, you are correct that "I 100" did play some dance during specialty shows for a little while. But outside of the short lived live to air show from Weekends (which was a teen club in an old Circuit City building across from West Town Mall), and of course the great Open House Party, they really didn't play much dance in their normal daytime playlist. And yes, speaking of WOKI, and J.J. Randall, I remember him well, because I got to work with him for a short time after he left 'OKI. I did weekends and production at 99.1 WNOX as "Brian Russell" (through three formats from '90 to '97), and JJ Randall worked for us for a short time during our country format. (We had a simulcast of 99.1 and 99.3 FM for awhile and later just 99.1, and we did country, then smooth jazz as "Double 99 FM", and then urban/rhythmic the last 3 years as "X99".) Then we were bought out in '97 by Dick Broadcasting/Citadel and they moved their news/talk format to 99.1 until they later moved it to WOKI's 100.3 signal. 99.1 is still owned by Citadel and is now once again paired with 99.3 as their sports station (WNML, "The Sports Animal" www.sportsanimal99.com)

But working with JJ was fun. He was a truly great guy who was always really nice. I'm not sure where he is now, but I heard a while back that he was having health problems. Hopefully he is ok. Also, speaking of working at X99 back in the day. My PD was pretty loose and let us have some say in what we threw into the rotation, and I did try to always work in some dance mixes during my weekend shows I did on Sat. and Sun. mornings. We ran the satellite "Touch" urban AC format part of the time, but were live during drivetimes and parts of the weekends, when we leaned more towards rhythmic CHR/urban. The plans had been to dump the satellite urban AC and do voicetracked rhythmic full time, but alas, the station was sold before we had the chance to make it happen. Anyway, I used to use dance music instrumentals as music beds under my breaks and in a lot of my promos, and I would always work in a cut or two an hour to spice things up on the weekend with some party music. I wish we had had the chance to go full time rhythmic as had been planned. Our signals were rimshots (99.1 from Loudon on the west side and 99.3 from Jefferson City on the east), but we did ok for having signal limitations and a tiny budget. Also, we were the first urban FM station in Knoxville at the time. (The market still has no real urban FM. Only rhythmic CHR, "Hot 104.5"). But anyway, it was a fun time and a great experience doing 3 very different formats over those years. That was the last time I worked in radio as I hung up my headphones and broadcasting degree and opted for a better paying job. It would be fun to do a weekend shift as a hobby again sometime, but things have changed so much in the past decade that I would be lost. (Our music wasn't yet on hard drive back then, only part of our commercials were, and we still used a combination of CD's, mini disks, and carts for most everything :) Boy have things changed since I first worked in radio in the late 80's doing small town country radio and actually using turntables and 45's :eek:.
But anyway, back on topic; TNZ was great and I wish you had had the opportunity to hear them. (I also lived out of town a ways, between Knox. and Chattanoooga, but I even put up an antenna so I could listen to them clearly and not get interference from 95.3 in Cleveland, TN). And yeah, JJ was a great guy. Also, "I100" was ok, but my favorite incarnation of WOKI as a CHR was during the early to mid 80's when they were "Hits 100" with Jeff Jarnigan as the P.D. and they used the old JAM Z100 Flamethrower jingle packages. They were much more balanced and mainstream at that time than in the late 80's when Brother Clay Gish was P.D. and they leaned rock.
 
Do you remember Brother Saint John... Jock and PD till mid 80s.... I never met him and I was really young, but WOKI played stuff like Shannon-Let the music play, and was the first station I ever heard Eddie Grant-Electric Avenue.... WOKI was also the first station that I heard Information Society-PURE ENERGY Great song..aye..... Anyway, back then I liked bands like GNR, AC-DC, Slaughter, Warrant,,, Motley Crue,,, But woki would always spike in the ballads and POP DANCE between the hard rock,, it was a similar station to how Z-Rock 107.5 in Virgie Kentucky sounds today.... WOKI was head to head with WIMZ who would also sneak in some pop once in a while, so its no wonder why WOKI leaned Rock, and would play Country Crossovers that 107.7 WIVK would play.... WOKI got their best run when Clay was running them.
 
Mid West Clubber said:
Do you remember Brother Saint John... Jock and PD till mid 80s.... I never met him and I was really young, but WOKI played stuff like Shannon-Let the music play, and was the first station I ever heard Eddie Grant-Electric Avenue.... WOKI was also the first station that I heard Information Society-PURE ENERGY Great song..aye..... Anyway, back then I liked bands like GNR, AC-DC, Slaughter, Warrant,,, Motley Crue,,, But woki would always spike in the ballads and POP DANCE between the hard rock,, it was a similar station to how Z-Rock 107.5 in Virgie Kentucky sounds today.... WOKI was head to head with WIMZ who would also sneak in some pop once in a while, so its no wonder why WOKI leaned Rock, and would play Country Crossovers that 107.7 WIVK would play.... WOKI got their best run when Clay was running them.

Yeah, I grew up listening to Brother John (aka John St. John) on WOKI when I was a kid and teenager. You do know who he is don't you? Brother John St. John is Roy Jaynes (who has used the name Cadillac Jack for years now), and is the P.D. in Chattanooga at suburban Adult CHR WALV "Alive 105". (although, that station is about to bite the dust because Brewer is going to upgrade the signal and flip it to ESPN radio). But Roy Jaynes is still with Brewer currently and is listed as a reporter on their new news/talk station that launched yesterday (WPLZ "95-3 Pulse News" which used to be "95-3 Jack FM"). You can read his bio on their website at www.chattanoogapulse.com under the radio section. (The station is tied in with co-owned alternative weekly newspaper, The Pulse and they share a website).

Anyway, Jaynes is one of my longtime favorites. After doing about 3 different stints at WOKI from the late 70s till the mid 80s, he went on to program several successful CHR (mostly rhythmics), including KKSS "Kiss FM" Albuquerque in the early 90s and WKXJ "Hot Jammin' Kicks FM" Chattanooga in the late 90's. He also did a short stint in Ft. Wayne in the early 2000s and also a couple of years as P.D. of WSOY "Y103" Decatur, IL around 2005 or so. His stations are always fun to listen to because he still uses old school sounding 80's style sweepers, with tons of jingles for every element. WALV "Alive 105" has been fun to listen to because of that (musically it leans adult, but the production is a blast).

Oh and also, since you mentioned WIMZ Knoxville. Yeah, I grew up on them too. They were my favorite station during the early 80s during the new wave period because they did that "Rock of the 80's" format that was a mix of new wave, CHR and classic rock. It would be a trainwreck by today's standards, but it worked back then and we all thought it was really cool. (I remember hearing music sweeps that would include Culture Club, The Fixx, Lynard Skynard, Madonna, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, Duran Duran, The Beatles, Motley Crue, and Wham all in the same hour of music on "104 'IMZ" as it was called back in those days.) Guess you might call those early 80s, "Rock of the 80s" format stations a primitive version of todays "Jack FM". Because they truly did play "everything that rocks" as their old sweepers used to say.
 
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