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Hmm..I grew up here. KFRC played the hell out of the hits from Rumors. We weren't in Cleveland. But many who are NOW in the Bay Area were, and everywhere else too. The population of the Bay Area in 75 was about 3.5 million. Today, it's 6.78million, give or take a couple hundred thousand. Bottom line is KFRC has to appeal to both those who remember it from the heyday and to people who have no clue about it's history. And I'll take Fleetwood Mac over Moonlight Feels Right or Undercover Angel any day of the week (both #1 songs that were "selling")!
elliottc said:
Hmm..I grew up here. KFRC played the hell out of the hits from Rumors. We weren't in Cleveland. But many who are NOW in the Bay Area were, and everywhere else too. The population of the Bay Area in 75 was about 3.5 million. Today, it's 6.78million, give or take a couple hundred thousand. Bottom line is KFRC has to appeal to both those who remember it from the heyday and to people who have no clue about it's history. And I'll take Fleetwood Mac over Moonlight Feels Right or Undercover Angel any day of the week (both #1 songs that were "selling")!
elliottc said:
Say what? Lindsey Buckingham was born and raised here, Stevie Nicks grew up here (both attended Menlo Atherton High School), and they were popular in the Bay Area before joining Fleetwood Mac.
Fleetwood Mac was HUGE in the Bay Area. Many would consider them a local band during that late 1970s era when Buckingham and Nicks dominated the band.
My point was, when I was growing up, if you had 3 individual concerts, EWF, FWM and the Commodores, FWM would have been 3rd. Maybe with the middle-class Caucasian folks in the 'burbs FWM was popular, but not in SF, and not with my contemporaries in the rest of the Bay Area.
Not to say they didn't sell records, which they certainly did, I am just saying that the Bay Area has a more urban and dance silent majority.
Remember, other than Parliament playing in Oakland, "black" music rarely had the stage in a large facility like the Day on the Green.
Didn't want to create a firestorm, this is just my opinion from my observations.
Not to say they didn't sell records, which they certainly did, I am just saying that the Bay Area has a more urban and dance silent majority.
Remember, other than Parliament playing in Oakland, "black" music rarely had the stage in a large facility like the Day on the Green.
Didn't want to create a firestorm, this is just my opinion from my observations.
KFRC, in the Michael Spears and Les Garland eras (1973-1980), was all about Frampton, Fleetwood Mac, Jefferson Starship, Bob Seger, etc. Sure, they played the Commodores and The Brothers Johnson and Earth, Wind & Fire, but KFRC didn't go heavily urban until 1981-1983 under Gerry Cagle.
---Michael Hagerty
---Michael Hagerty
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Just depends on whos consulting. If Jerry Clifton, Gerry Gagle, Don Kelly were programming you'd be sure to hear all the great soul songs. If Dan Valle, Alan Burns, Bill Drake, Charlie Van Dyke you'd hear the lilly white stuff only.
I always thought it suspect when The Dan Valley's would not play a #1 R&B song but would play the shit out of a lilly white STIFF
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the lilly white stuff only.
the ------ out of a lilly white STIFF
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Sounds like a racist comment to me. I'm a white guy who likes "black" music especially Blues-traditional to modern-and I wouldn't call music "lily white" just because its by someone of Northern European descent. They don't all sound like Pat Boone.
the lilly white stuff only.
the ------ out of a lilly white STIFF
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Sounds like a racist comment to me. I'm a white guy who likes "black" music especially Blues-traditional to modern-and I wouldn't call music "lily white" just because its by someone of Northern European descent. They don't all sound like Pat Boone.
the lilly white stuff only.
the ------ out of a lilly white STIFF
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Sounds like a racist comment to me. I'm a white guy who likes "black" music especially Blues-traditional to modern-and I wouldn't call music "lily white" just because its by someone of Northern European descent. They don't all sound like Pat Boone.
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Chill my brutha. It wasn't meant to be racists.
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Sam Van Zandt, and Steve Jordan, EXCELLENT DJs that should be in line, CBS,, make the Right Choice, Over 70 years in radio combined with these two, they do Radio Very well, and Steve Jordan and Sam van Zandt, both worked for a legendary broadcaster Mr James Gabbert!!! This guy knows Radio, too bad Gabbert wasnt in charge at KFRC, This guy makes things happen!!! Kenny in Concord
To DougR...Armstrong & Getty vs Stern
Everything is "history", Doug.....What category would Stern fit under?..Most popular?...His satellite audience has evaporated to near nothing so so much for any loyalty...Quality?...Does this need any comment...Show prep?...uh-huh...Stimulating radio?..Maybe to public junior & high school kids...The Bible says, "When I was a child, I acted like a child..".........We're talking the difference between children and informed, satirical adults....Stern will surely be part of radio "history", much as Rome is a part of " The Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire"...When we read the history of those who played a key part in the demise of radio as a entertainment medium and not just a rolling MP3 player, your boy Howard will shine as one of its brightest "star"..
Everything is "history", Doug.....What category would Stern fit under?..Most popular?...His satellite audience has evaporated to near nothing so so much for any loyalty...Quality?...Does this need any comment...Show prep?...uh-huh...Stimulating radio?..Maybe to public junior & high school kids...The Bible says, "When I was a child, I acted like a child..".........We're talking the difference between children and informed, satirical adults....Stern will surely be part of radio "history", much as Rome is a part of " The Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire"...When we read the history of those who played a key part in the demise of radio as a entertainment medium and not just a rolling MP3 player, your boy Howard will shine as one of its brightest "star"..
surprise said:
Like all of us, we have people who rub us the wrong way. I grew up listening to "your Marrrrrrrcossssssss" on DEEESCO 104 KSFXXXXXXX. Flipping irritating. If you never had someone rub you the wrong way, you are a better person that I am, which you seem to be implying...or you are either Marcos or Bob in disguise! Bob Gowa, Doug Lee, and a few others just seem to always show up someplace and to me, and I emphasize, to me, they irritate me.
I suppose in a perfect world everyone would get along, and I am sure that the above mentioned people are nice guys in person, maybe beer buddy-types, I don't know, but as a LISTENER, (I'm not not a co-worker or industry person) they bug me! Cammy Blackstone appears to bug a lot of people here and nobody accuses them of having a personal gripe. The Slim One, her quick minute here, bugged me. Terry McGovern bugged me. I can't stand Don Bleu, after 30 years, still making silly fake phone calls. Lamont & Tonelli bug me with their locker room humor. Al Franken bugs me. So does the new, bloated angry old man verion of Gary Radnich.
I know none of the people mentioned, never met them, and never seen any of them in the flesh. So to answer your question, it's not a personal thing - they just bug me!
elliottc said:
Sounds like a personal problem. What's your beef with those two?
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Like all of us, we have people who rub us the wrong way. I grew up listening to "your Marrrrrrrcossssssss" on DEEESCO 104 KSFXXXXXXX. Flipping irritating. If you never had someone rub you the wrong way, you are a better person that I am, which you seem to be implying...or you are either Marcos or Bob in disguise!
I know none of the people mentioned, never met them, and never seen any of them in the flesh. So to answer your question, it's not a personal thing - they just bug me!
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Oops...sorry, my comment was a (failed) attempt at humor. No argument here - I listen to the radio many hours every day, being on the road a great deal, and I'm amazed at how grating some of the voices I hear can be. I'm none of the above in disguise, but I thought the two you pointed out were rather innocuous-sounding. Again, different people, different opinions.
Now where are my rubber nose and glasses mask?!
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Just depends on whos consulting. If Jerry Clifton, Gerry Gagle, Don Kelly were programming you'd be sure to hear all the great soul songs. If Dan Valle, Alan Burns, Bill Drake, Charlie Van dyke you'd hear the lilly white stuff only.
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Um...not the Charlie Van Dyke I know. Charlie loves R&B...played more of it at KGB (San Diego in 1970 was a pretty vanilla market) than PDs before or after him. At KHJ his tenure as PD (January 1975-May 1977) was a time when John Denver, Helen Reddy, Olivia Newton-John and Barry Manilow were all over the charts, but he didn't turn his back on The Brothers Johnson, Earth, Wind & Fire, Rose Royce and other R&B hits.
And my favorite memory of the morning show we did together here in Phoenix 10 years ago on Eagle 96.9 (a truly lily-white classic hits station programmed by someone else), was the day he broke format and played the LP version of Isaac Hayes' "Theme From Shaft"...because he wanted to.
---Michael Hagerty
Just depends on whos consulting. If Jerry Clifton, Gerry Gagle, Don Kelly were programming you'd be sure to hear all the great soul songs. If Dan Valle, Alan Burns, Bill Drake, Charlie Van dyke you'd hear the lilly white stuff only.
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Um...not the Charlie Van Dyke I know. Charlie loves R&B...played more of it at KGB (San Diego in 1970 was a pretty vanilla market) than PDs before or after him. At KHJ his tenure as PD (January 1975-May 1977) was a time when John Denver, Helen Reddy, Olivia Newton-John and Barry Manilow were all over the charts, but he didn't turn his back on The Brothers Johnson, Earth, Wind & Fire, Rose Royce and other R&B hits.
And my favorite memory of the morning show we did together here in Phoenix 10 years ago on Eagle 96.9 (a truly lily-white classic hits station programmed by someone else), was the day he broke format and played the LP version of Isaac Hayes' "Theme From Shaft"...because he wanted to.
---Michael Hagerty
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Look for other VERY familiar voices in addition to Sholin when the jocks debut. These guys have a vision.
On Monday morning, I caught the last few seconds of Ronn Owens 9:00AM hour leading up to ABC news. He was thanking 'Your Duke' Dave Sholin for his regular segments on his show over the years. Sholin had regularly appeared on Owens' show since his days at the Gavin Report to talk about the latest pop music hits. Ronn concluded by saying "it's been a great ride," implying that Dave would no longer be eppearing. Too bad, though it makes sense if Dave is going to be on-air at KFRC, possibly during the same 9:00 hour.
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Not to mention that Your Duke is now in the employ of a rival media giant.
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