WHOK Translator ID

[C414B]

I've started hearing WHOK reference their 102.3 translator in downtown in their TOH IDs. Has anyone heard them do a legal ID of the translator or have I been listening at the top of the wrong hours? I know that there's only two or three windows of time where it has to be legally ID'd, so perhaps I've been listening outside those windows.

 

[xmusicmatt]

I've started hearing WHOK reference their 102.3 translator in downtown in their TOH IDs. Has anyone heard them do a legal ID of the translator or have I been listening at the top of the wrong hours? I know that there's only two or three windows of time where it has to be legally ID'd, so perhaps I've been listening outside those windows.

There are ways they can transmit the legal id that are silent to people listening via FM Radios to my knowledge.

 

[C414B]

I've started hearing WHOK reference their 102.3 translator in downtown in their TOH IDs. Has anyone heard them do a legal ID of the translator or have I been listening at the top of the wrong hours? I know that there's only two or three windows of time where it has to be legally ID'd, so perhaps I've been listening outside those windows.

There are ways they can transmit the legal id that are silent to people listening via FM Radios to my knowledge.

Interesting. I haven't heard about that form of ID.

 

[RF Man]

I've started hearing WHOK reference their 102.3 translator in downtown in their TOH IDs. Has anyone heard them do a legal ID of the translator or have I been listening at the top of the wrong hours? I know that there's only two or three windows of time where it has to be legally ID'd, so perhaps I've been listening outside those windows.

According to FCC rules and regs the station must be identified as close to the top of hour as possible or where a natural break in programming occurs. I don't believe there are any rules or regs regarding sub-audible station ID's.

 

[C414B]

I've started hearing WHOK reference their 102.3 translator in downtown in their TOH IDs. Has anyone heard them do a legal ID of the translator or have I been listening at the top of the wrong hours? I know that there's only two or three windows of time where it has to be legally ID'd, so perhaps I've been listening outside those windows.

According to FCC rules and regs the station must be identified as close to the top of hour as possible or where a natural break in programming occurs. I don't believe there are any rules or regs regarding sub-audible station ID's.

Right.


But, in the case of translators, they must be ID'd at certain intervals. What are those intervals? The non-comm Christian station I was on-air at in Texas had a translator that we ID'd at 8AM, 1PM, 5PM and 10PM. IIRC, there are time windows prescribed for the ID of translators. What are those windows??

 

[jorr]

There are two ways translators can be leagally TOH i.d.

1: A minnium (no max), would be 1 between 7 and 9am, 1 between 11 and 1 pm, and 1 between 4 and 6 pm.

2: FSK (Frequency shift keying), which is a form of morse code that varies the center of the carrier slightly once an hour. This is almost always completly automated within the exciter. If there is no modulation (read no audio), and you turn your radio waaay up, you will hear a somewhat subtle clicking noise. That is it. With FSK, the translator never needs to be auraly ID.

 

[C414B]

There are two ways translators can be leagally TOH i.d.

1: A minnium (no max), would be 1 between 7 and 9am, 1 between 11 and 1 pm, and 1 between 4 and 6 pm.

2: FSK (Frequency shift keying), which is a form of morse code that varies the center of the carrier slightly once an hour. This is almost always completly automated within the exciter. If there is no modulation (read no audio), and you turn your radio waaay up, you will hear a somewhat subtle clicking noise. That is it. With FSK, the translator never needs to be auraly ID.

Thanks for the clarification.

Which do they use?

 

[BobOnTheJob]

Not sure what they use but I know that the EMF K-LOVE translators all use FSK.