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Whoops: Arbitron says TSL is down 14 percent over the past decade

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"Yeah but it's the New York Times and it's a newspaper and so they are a competitor and that means they will be unfair to us."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever.

That is not going to cut it.

A dispassionate reporter, reviewing the same Arbitron data that is so often alluded to here, says radio listening is down across the board.

Down 15.0 percent for age 12-17.
Down 15.3 percent for age 18-24.
Down 13.2 percent for age 25-34.

Etc. etc.

The stock of the five largest broadcasting companies, in the past three years, has dropped 30-60 percent.

And the newspaper article duly points out that only the newspaper industry is falling faster than radio.

So, maybe now we know why a certain "frequent flier" in this forum is so reluctant to let anyone see the numbers that he loves to quote.

The entire article is at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/business/media/15radio.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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DE will say (again) : "It's a newspaper, what do you expect?"

"They are a competitor."

"My maximi$er says they're wrong."

OK, David.

My money is on REALITY.

Reality: 14 million IPod style devices.

Reality: 14 million satellite radio accounts active by the end of this year.

Reality: video games are eating your lunch in homes.

Reality: 20 years worth of kids have been brought up with Napster, IPods and radio as a bit player, if even that.

Reality: radio is writing off huge chunks of the audience: AAA, country, etc disappearing in major cities.

Reality: HD radio is six years behind XM, and that bus has already left the stop.

And now, alternate reality: Good morning, Davey.
 
Music radio will be dead (or near flat line) in 10 years. Why WAIT for the radio to play songs you like? Download, burn, and listen to whatever, whenever, however many times you want. Personality-driven radio is where it's at. Local news/talk will survive.
 
And your list doesn't even include Internet radio which I now listen to in my car via a Treo 650 with high speed data service and a connection to my car stereo. If you want to know how many stations I can listen to using the Treo and P-tunes software, then check out the 685 pages of station listings at Shoutcast: http://www.shoutcast.com/ - my only regret is that I didn't short Clear Channel's stock a few years back. :)

zumahans said:
Reality: 14 million IPod style devices.

Reality: 14 million satellite radio accounts active by the end of this year.

Reality: video games are eating your lunch in homes.

Reality: 20 years worth of kids have been brought up with Napster, IPods and radio as a bit player, if even that.

Reality: radio is writing off huge chunks of the audience: AAA, country, etc disappearing in major cities.

Reality: HD radio is six years behind XM, and that bus has already left the stop.

And now, alternate reality: Good morning, Davey.
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It's never too late to short Clear Channel stock.

[THE Bob Hudson? Wowser.]
 
zumahans said:
It's never too late to short Clear Channel stock.

[THE Bob Hudson? Wowser.]
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THE Emperor Bob Hudson died in 1997. I actually did fill-in for KRLA news when he was working there in about 1980 or 81: he was on early in the day and I was doing late afternoon news. At some point I got a call from news director Jane Platt telling me to start calling myself ROBERT HUDSON since they were getting lots of calls from people wanting to know why Emperor Bob was doing news???? Bob Hudson is my real name so I had to get into radio with a handle like that :)
 
"Why wait to hear the song you want on the radio?"

"14 million satellite radio accounts active"

... don't you have to wait on satradio, too? ???
 
KCJB----->... don't you have to wait on satradio, too? ???

Time it takes FM radio in LA to play, let's say, "Tangled Up In Blue" by Bob Dylan: about once a week.

Time it takes one of the six or seven various XM stations that play it regularly: about twice a day.

And what about a really obscure oldie track, like, say, "Babe What Would You Say" by Hurrican Smith?

About twice a month on XM 7.

About never on terrestial radio.

Same is true for just about any format.
 
Hans, I have XM and on the channels anyone cares about, I scroll through and see the same artists and the same songs. no offense, but no one cares about the 40s on 4 or the graveyard or whatever other obscure channels they have. I'll listen to Chill once in awhile, but I've met few people who can stand it. Terrestrial radio would serve these niches if more than six people wanted them.
 
---->on the channels anyone cares about, I scroll through and see the same artists and the same songs.

Yeah, those darn hits.
 
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