Why are big hits "lost?"

[AbrahamJSimpson]

It works for some stations, yet some stations seem to underperform even with a tested/"safe" playlist (audacy, iheart, ect). In those cases, maybe being a bit more eclectic might not hurt. Kenz in salt lake city has kind of an edm/dance lean to its chr format.

Audience: we don’t want that.
Your proposal: sure you do. You just don’t know it.
Audience: no, really, we told you what we like and dislike.
Your proposal: pffff, silly audience. You’ll take eclectic and like it.
Audience: bye.
Your proposal: What went wrong?

 

[michael hagerty]

Audience: we don’t want that.
Your proposal: sure you do. You just don’t know it.
Audience: no, really, we told you what we like and dislike.
Your proposal: pffff, silly audience. You’ll take eclectic and like it.
Audience: bye.
Your proposal: What went wrong?

You left out:

L.A. Radio Station: but it worked in Salt Lake City!

(crickets)

 

[seatownmedia]

A little off subject, but this thread reminds me of the weirdest record promotion stunt I ever experienced. It was in the early 90’s and I was PD at a top40 in a market of about 300k. We reported to R&R which back then was all you needed to get promo attention. So, there was a new record coming out (I wish I could remember artist and title that had a “doctor” theme). So the record company dresses up a female in a nurses uniform complete with stethoscope and surprises me in my office telling me my test results have come in and I need to go to the hospital immediately. Needless to say I was dumbfounded. It went on for a few minutes until I recognized the rep walk in. Then took me to dinner. You can’t make these things up!

 

[Kelly A]

You left out:

L.A. Radio Station: but it worked in Salt Lake City!

(crickets)

Or; Kansas City...

 

[Kelly A]

That's the kind of thing that's better handled on social media.

Exactly. Radio is broadcasting. That means to the widest audience possible. Not just a handful of people with eccentric musical tastes.

 

[vchimpanzee]

But I couldn't hear him, because the speakers were blasting a 70's song, "Sara Smile" by Hall and Oates.

I like that one.

If that is the case, then I doubt that any PD would select "Sara Smile." It should just go into the wastebasket, along with "Honey", "Light Up My Life" "Muskrat", etc. etc.

I've mentioned my feelings about the others.

 

[vchimpanzee]

To me, ( and this is just me), Hall and Oates sound like "soft rock" music that is indeed vapid. Much of 70's music was vapid, vanilla, and nondescript.

This is a good thing in my opinion.

Pretty sure that Al Green can do better with this material than Hall and Oates. However, to me, this sounds like smooth jazz background music for the workplace or played in the background at the dentist's office.

And what's wrong with that? I wish dentists did have good background music, but I had a filling today and I had to make sure there wasn't any music because what they generally play gets on my nerves and when you're going through that experience ...

And, I don't like drippy, saccharine break-up lyrics, whether it's Taylor Swift, or Adele, or Hall and Oates, or anyone else.

Lyrics aren't that big a deal for me but Taylor Swift and Adele I don't care for.

Hall & Oates have some good songs and some songs that in my opinion aren't pleasant to listen to.

 

[vchimpanzee]

we got Grand Master Melle Mel to perform on the beach,

I should post this on the KRTH rap thread. I tell myself I would like "I Feel For You" without the rap. No, actually, I like the rap part of that song too.

our station got the Pointer Sisters show in Miami...

I like them.

 

[vchimpanzee]

You're coming off as VChimp II "get off my lawn with that music I don't like".

Except it's backwards. I like the music he doesn't.

 

[vchimpanzee]

Yeah I know that...I was referring to her last hit in '83 before "Real", "She Works Hard For the Money".

I don't like it. And one of two things happened. Either I was asked to rate it when I participated in an online test where I was asked by the people responsible for Timeless Favorites, previously known as Stardust, or it was played there. A standards format!

"Could It Be Magic" is one of my all-time favs from her, a great one, much preferred over Manilow's version.

I would choose the Manilow version, I'm sure.

People who like "Don't Forget the Lyrics" and "Beat Shazam" and "Name that tune" seem to like these songs better.

 

[vchimpanzee]

Was "Heart Attack" in '82 on the same album or was there a follow up? I don't recall.

Regardless, it was terrible in my opinion. "Make a Move on Me" was bad too.'

 

[michael hagerty]

I picked the wrong week to give up muttering the Lord's name under my breath while reading this site.

 

[Kelly A]

I don't like it. And one of two things happened. Either I was asked to rate it when I participated in an online test where I was asked by the people responsible for Timeless Favorites, previously known as Stardust, or it was played there. A standards format!

One common thread in broadcast radio: Disco is like listener Kryptonite. Want to kill off your listeners? Play old disco from the 70's.

 

[Kelly A]

I picked the wrong week to give up muttering the Lord's name under my breath while reading this site.

Here let me help you with that Michael. When it comes to VChimp's posts: Good Lord!

 

[vchimpanzee]

and that station still plays Paul Anka's "(You're) Having My Baby," another song often labeled a "bad song" that should be avoided at all times.

I like it.

I saw the movie "Sing" last night. Mike the Mouse was great and so was his music, and I saw Anka's name on at least on of the songs.

"Fly Me to the Moon" by Sinatra was played on my oldies station this afternoon. I haven't confirmed this but I think they insert songs locally during commercial breaks. But there are DJs so I know they're using satellite.

 

[michael hagerty]

Here let me help you with that Michael. When it comes to VChimp's posts: Good Lord!

Thanks, Kelly. That's tons better than what I'd been doing.

 

[CTListener]

I like it.

I saw the movie "Sing" last night. Mike the Mouse was great and so was his music, and I saw Anka's name on at least on of the songs.

"Fly Me to the Moon" by Sinatra was played on my oldies station this afternoon. I haven't confirmed this but I think they insert songs locally during commercial breaks. But there are DJs so I know they're using satellite.

Mine is local in the morning and for a one-hour "Vinyl Vault" show at 4 p.m. I know they use the syndicated True Oldies feed in some day parts, but not sure if all the jockless hours are coming from the satellite. Some of the songs they play just seem too "out there" to be on a national feed like True Oldies, and I almost never hear any True Oldies imaging. Check them out here:

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[AbrahamJSimpson]

I should post this on the KRTH rap thread.

No, not really.

 

[kfbkfb]

I've heard over the years that KC is a good test market for various products (maybe even commercial radio formats).


Kirk Bayne

 

[Daryl Lynn L.A.]

and that station still plays Paul Anka's "(You're) Having My Baby," another song often labeled a "bad song" that should be avoided at all times.

Chimp:

I like it.

I think I wrote that the "Baby" song was voted one of the worst ever. I think the only reason it was ever played, was that Anka was considered ( and is still considered) to be a good song writer and a name in music.

My response to this "boasting about being Baby Daddy" song was, " If you think you're getting me pregnant, then leaving to run around while I raise a child as a single Mom, then the heck with you." ( I was a militant rebel back then). LOL.

Most of this discussion revolves around music preferences among people living in the U.S.A. and Canada. This is a huge, demographic, with a huge variety of musical tastes. To each his own. That is why there are about 15 Music Choice channel, each with a different genre, on Comcast Music Choice. And there's even one for 70's soft rock. I always learn something here every day from reading this website ! -- Daryl