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Why did WHLO drop Quinn and Rose?

But, WNIR has better coverage of the heavily populated north and east portions of Akron giving them a strong advantage over WHLO (aside from being on FM). Not only would 98.1 complement WHLO's coverage with their strong signal from the north but could potentially pick up listeners in Cleveland which has no Hannity affiliate. An AM/FM combo could also be split for special programming (such as NASCAR) so the talk shows could continue uninterrupted.
 
Keith (kkennedy) has said that WKDD is making a lot of money and won't flip to a simulcast of WHLO or anything else. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember you saying that in another post a while back.)
 
John Baylor said:
Funny---their own station offers up the subscription for FREE

http://www.wpgb.com/cc-common/podcast.html
Thanks! I guess they love their Ohio listeners so much they want us to pay for what is free in PA.

BTW: Does anybody know the name and the artist of their theme song (the first part that goes "America, where are you now...") I remember hearing that song on either WNCR or WMMS back in the early days of progressive/free-form radio but never knew who the artist was or the name of the song.

As for WKDD dropping their format for WHLO talk, they already had it on their HD2 stream and Air 1 on HD 3. I just purchased an HD radio and WKDD dumps WHLO on HD2. I was able to get both streams initially, I wonder what "broke"?
 
Towerjunky said:
But, WNIR has better coverage of the heavily populated north and east portions of Akron giving them a strong advantage over WHLO (aside from being on FM). Not only would 98.1 complement WHLO's coverage with their strong signal from the north but could potentially pick up listeners in Cleveland which has no Hannity affiliate. An AM/FM combo could also be split for special programming (such as NASCAR) so the talk shows could continue uninterrupted.


You can hear Hannity's "Liberals are the cause of every problem on earth" program loud and clear from WJR 760 throughout Northeast Ohio.
 
HHH said:
Towerjunky said:
But, WNIR has better coverage of the heavily populated north and east portions of Akron giving them a strong advantage over WHLO (aside from being on FM). Not only would 98.1 complement WHLO's coverage with their strong signal from the north but could potentially pick up listeners in Cleveland which has no Hannity affiliate. An AM/FM combo could also be split for special programming (such as NASCAR) so the talk shows could continue uninterrupted.


You can hear Hannity's "Liberals are the cause of every problem on earth" program loud and clear from WJR 760 throughout Northeast Ohio.

Is Hannity still on WEOL 930 in Lorain?
 
HHH you seem to have a major issue with conservative talk radio. You are always criticizing conservatives for voicing their opinions yet you are quite silent when liberals do the same exact thing. Talk radio by in large is a conservative format success. About the only liberal that has even had success is Ed Schultz.
 
WNIR's signal sucks in Copley near where I live because the WQMX/WKSU/WZIP tower trashes the WNIR signal, but I still listen anyways. WHLO doesn't have nearly as much local coverage as WNIR. WHLO is just the typical syndicated lineup and Clear Channel cookie cutter talk station. It's nice that at least WHLO has Jim Albright, and it's local, but how can I listen if I work during his time slot like most people do?

WHLO has a powerful signal during the daytime just about anywhere, as long as you don't mind static here and there. I can drive to Pittsburgh or Columbus and still receive a listenable signal for WHLO.
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
HHH you seem to have a major issue with conservative talk radio. You are always criticizing conservatives for voicing their opinions yet you are quite silent when liberals do the same exact thing. Talk radio by in large is a conservative format success. About the only liberal that has even had success is Ed Schultz.

Could you site an example of a liberal talk show on the radio in NEO?
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
HHH you seem to have a major issue with conservative talk radio. You are always criticizing conservatives for voicing their opinions yet you are quite silent when liberals do the same exact thing. Talk radio by in large is a conservative format success. About the only liberal that has even had success is Ed Schultz.

If that's what you think, you have not been paying attention to what I write.

I can't stand ANY agenda-driven talk show, right or left. Primarily because you know exactly what the host will say on every single subject, so there is no reason to listen.

Here are two of my most recent posts on the subject:

“What made Jerry Williams great was that he was not a party Kool Aid drinker. He would give it both sides. I could never quite peg his politics which made his opinions all the more sincere. Today? You don't even have to listen to most programs to know what you are going to hear. 100% affirmation radio....that is to say, the core audience listens to AFFIRM their beliefs as opposed to be exposed to a variety of opinions. On the Rush Limbaugh Show, every problem under the sun is caused by liberals. On the Ed Shultz Show, every problem under the sun is caused by conservatives. Ridiculous..”

and


“To be a hit today on talk radio, you have to throw a lot a red meat, demonize your opposition, make a bunch of blanket statements about every issue, and have amnesia about similar behavior of your own party when they were in office!”
 
A good talk show encourages opposing opinions. Liberal callers automatically go to the front of the waiting line to get on the air on the major conservative talk shows. Unfortunately a good, intelligent conversation rarely follows which tells me those callers can't defend what they believe so the shows tend to have more like minded callers and it does sound like affirmation radio. But not for the reason you stated.
 
Tower exactly, Dennis Prager and Michael Medved always encourage liberals to call and regularly debate with them. Perhaps HHH you can check out their shows for good thoughtful discussion.
 
Towerjunky said:
A good talk show encourages opposing opinions. Liberal callers automatically go to the front of the waiting line to get on the air on the major conservative talk shows. Unfortunately a good, intelligent conversation rarely follows which tells me those callers can't defend what they believe so the shows tend to have more like minded callers and it does sound like affirmation radio. But not for the reason you stated.

As someone who has witnessed first hand the synthetic nature of many of these talk shows at the studio in their production phase, I can tell you that, with rare exception, articulate opposing view points are usually put on endless hold ("I'm sorry, we've moved on to another subject. Call back some other time") and the flakiest opposing viewpoint callers get right on. I will let you in on something: I was around the table one day in a pre-show session between Merle Pollis and Joel Rose (remember those guys?). I was shocked to witness them prepping an intern how to call in and act like a flake who disagreed in order to jazz up the show.

Hannity does it all the time. He makes sure some dizzy flower child gets on so he can make a fool of her. Franken on the left used to have this right wing whack job caller on all the time with crazy conspiracy theories just to present the opposition as a bunch of flakes. These might have even been interns and production guys, who knows?

The exceptions are people like Dennis Prager and Mike Medved, but their shows have no ratings because a real debate between equals is not what most people who listen to these silly shows want.
 
HHH said:
Towerjunky said:
A good talk show encourages opposing opinions. Liberal callers automatically go to the front of the waiting line to get on the air on the major conservative talk shows. Unfortunately a good, intelligent conversation rarely follows which tells me those callers can't defend what they believe so the shows tend to have more like minded callers and it does sound like affirmation radio. But not for the reason you stated.

As someone who has witnessed first hand the synthetic nature of many of these talk shows at the studio in their production phase, I can tell you that, with rare exception, articulate opposing view points are usually put on endless hold ("I'm sorry, we've moved on to another subject. Call back some other time") and the flakiest opposing viewpoint callers get right on. I will let you in on something: I was around the table one day in a pre-show session between Merle Pollis and Joel Rose (remember those guys?). I was shocked to witness them prepping an intern how to call in and act like a flake who disagreed in order to jazz up the show.

Hannity does it all the time. He makes sure some dizzy flower child gets on so he can make a fool of her. Franken on the left used to have this right wing whack job caller on all the time with crazy conspiracy theories just to present the opposition as a bunch of flakes. These might have even been interns and production guys, who knows?

The exceptions are people like Dennis Prager and Mike Medved, but their shows have no ratings because a real debate between equals is not what most people who listen to these silly shows want.

You're right... Hannity is the worst when it comes to a thoughtful balanced discussion, and I'm a conservative. I would prefer Dennis Prager or Michael Medved over Hannity. So I guess that makes me an exception. Back to the topic at hand... WHLO is not going to get any good ratings if they put on dry boring news programs in the morning, all while WNIR has a fun, local morning show.
 
kkennedy said:
A couple of notes.

WHLO was never aimed as an alternative to WHBC-AM. We intentionally focus news, traffic, weather all on Akron, knowing that with the type of talk programming we air, we'll get numbers elsewhere.

Q&R are available as a majority of long form shows are for stations under a barter agreement. You can contract with Premiere. I have no doubts that in the right situation they work. Jim is one of the hardest working individuals I've ever met.

I'm guessing you're affiliated with that station/cluster, so the info is appreciated. I never thought Quinn and Rose came via Premiere because they're not on Premiere's list of shows they distribute. Also nowhere on their website does it show a contact address for how one can affiliate with the show. The cash fee part has just been mentioned by Quinn in the past referring to a Maryland affiliate that dropped the show, only to bring it back due to listeners contacting the station. If they are barter distributed, what's the required inventory? It doesn't look like they display a clock. I know they leave a LOT of commercial time open.
 
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