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Why does WINS 1010 AM still use "The Typewriter background Sounds" ?
- Thread starter recto101
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You guys are all talking about indicators for the next element. The chirps, bongs, bee-doops, etc. are all intermitant indicators that the listener isn't even supposed to hear.
Those sounds were to coordinate the timing for the elimination of dead air.
The teletype that WINS uses is constant and the younger generation is not going to relate to it as they get older and listen less to the music stations. It just is not going to transcend to the next genetation of news radio listeners. To keep it, is suicide.
I like it, but I'm 55.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Those sounds were to coordinate the timing for the elimination of dead air.
The teletype that WINS uses is constant and the younger generation is not going to relate to it as they get older and listen less to the music stations. It just is not going to transcend to the next genetation of news radio listeners. To keep it, is suicide.
I like it, but I'm 55.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
But younger listeners don't even associate it with the sound of a teletype. They've never heard a real teletype nor know what one is. They only associate it with the "sound" of 1010 WINS. Just like Radio Reloj's ticking clock and Morse code beeps, it is the signature sound of the station, and helps it stand out on the dial, regardless if listeners know its historical legacy. In fact, I'm in my 30s, so I grew up past the age of the teletype. So when I was young, I thought the tacka-tacka-tacka noise on WINS was the sound of a stock market ticker, not of a teletype!badjef said:
I'm sure WINS management has discussed many times before the possibility of getting rid of the teletype sound, and for whatever reason, has decided to keep it. And given WINS's ratings success, I trust their judgement. They'll probably kill off the IBOC long before they kill off the teletype.
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Silkie said:
That's a great song!! Also I'm listening to ai4i's entry....
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satech said:
EXACTLY my point, earlier. Even if they haven't even the slightest clue, it's irrelevant. The SOUND is an "Audio Signature". How many people know what the notes "G E C' mean? Play those three tones, and just about everyone will say "NBC!"
satech said:
I wish EVERYONE would turn off that STUPID IBOC equipment on AM!
To say that it's HORRIBLE is an understatement! ai4i said:
That is a classic!
Well, I don't knowif you can download the tickity-tickity, but you CAN download the CBS news twanger, bong and all:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011...shtml?tag=cbsnewsTwoColLowerPromoArea;fdPromo
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011...shtml?tag=cbsnewsTwoColLowerPromoArea;fdPromo
Who can tell us what those NBC chimes originally rep'ed?
(sorry about that anæmic looking "C")
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If you don't know about the chimes, then you likely don't know about tar and feathers either!
(sorry about that anæmic looking "C")
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Back away from that keyboard
Do not type into your search bar or access a search engine
The ladies and gents on this board do not appreciate cheaters.
If you don't know about the chimes, then you likely don't know about tar and feathers either!
Not to go off topic.Probably before my time.Who's TV Newscast use the teletype background sound back in the day.
Silkie said:
I forgot how perfect the timing was.
I think the tele-type sound effects in the background work great for telling everyone "This is an All-News Station!" It was used by all the former Group W (Westinghouse) All-News stations: WINS NYC, KFWB LA, WMAQ Chicago and KYW Philadelphia. If KFWB hadn't run into ratings problems and been switched to News-Talk, I'd bet they'd still be using tele-type SFX as an All-News station. Same for WMAQ, which is now Sports WSCR.
Do younger generations not know about tele-type machines? Maybe. But they still know somehow the sound means "News Room." Has anyone mentioned that on Sirius/XM, Howard Stern's "Howard 100 News" also uses the tele-type sound effect? Certainly many under-40 listeners know that sound means they're hearing Howard 100 News.
In fact, if I were starting a new All-News station, especially on AM, but FM too, I'd still use the sound effect. It's fairly low in volume on WINS and KYW. You may only notice it when the newscaster pauses. But on an AM dial that's now all spoken word programming (and an FM dial that will slowly move to more spoken word programming) having a background sound that re-inforces your format makes sense. When you do a live remote from a County Fair, don't you want that background noise that tells the audience it's a remote broadcast? Don't you want to hear the sound of the crowd when tuning in a baseball game? Crowd applause at a live concert?
Keep the tele-type machine SFX!
Gregg
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Do younger generations not know about tele-type machines? Maybe. But they still know somehow the sound means "News Room." Has anyone mentioned that on Sirius/XM, Howard Stern's "Howard 100 News" also uses the tele-type sound effect? Certainly many under-40 listeners know that sound means they're hearing Howard 100 News.
In fact, if I were starting a new All-News station, especially on AM, but FM too, I'd still use the sound effect. It's fairly low in volume on WINS and KYW. You may only notice it when the newscaster pauses. But on an AM dial that's now all spoken word programming (and an FM dial that will slowly move to more spoken word programming) having a background sound that re-inforces your format makes sense. When you do a live remote from a County Fair, don't you want that background noise that tells the audience it's a remote broadcast? Don't you want to hear the sound of the crowd when tuning in a baseball game? Crowd applause at a live concert?
Keep the tele-type machine SFX!
Gregg
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Agreed Gregg. Moreover, in a radio era where 'staging' is a long-lost art, the teletype noise remains a grinning old wise uncle. In an era when one feature or element after another has been dropped from supposedly mass-appeal stations .... time, lucid weather, sports, personality, decent jingles ..... we need more grinning, wise old uncles around.
As well, the main product of those stations -- the *news* -- is highlighted. Sort of like the reverb on the old top 40 stations. On WINS, when you hear the clicks start, you know you'll be getting information you tuned in to hear in the first place. KYW is much the same way. Forgetting for a moment the huge commercial loads and clusters (dealing with them is the problem of every station) : when it's time to air your best work, you flaunt it.
Anyone else here remember the spoofs of the old-time soap operas done on the Carol Burnett show? The obligatory organ music would rise, standard issue for all soap operas then. But it would get so loud that Burnett and company would have to scream over the music to be heard. Great stuff.
Imho, people who claim that such practices are archaic are dismissing tradition. That teletype image ; that attention grabber, helped provide WINS with the revenue to operate a successful business in the first place.
As well, the main product of those stations -- the *news* -- is highlighted. Sort of like the reverb on the old top 40 stations. On WINS, when you hear the clicks start, you know you'll be getting information you tuned in to hear in the first place. KYW is much the same way. Forgetting for a moment the huge commercial loads and clusters (dealing with them is the problem of every station) : when it's time to air your best work, you flaunt it.
Anyone else here remember the spoofs of the old-time soap operas done on the Carol Burnett show? The obligatory organ music would rise, standard issue for all soap operas then. But it would get so loud that Burnett and company would have to scream over the music to be heard. Great stuff.
Imho, people who claim that such practices are archaic are dismissing tradition. That teletype image ; that attention grabber, helped provide WINS with the revenue to operate a successful business in the first place.
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