> > > Part of the problem is that there is "I" and three
> Spanish
> >
> > > language stations (four if you count the same station
> > > broadcasting on another channel).
> >
> > Well Chicago has three Spanish stations.
> >
> > WSNS-TV 44, WGBO-TV 66 and WXFT-TV 60. The last two are
> > licensed to suburbs but have their transmitters in
> Chicago.
> >
> >
> > Chicago also has an "I" station WCPX-TV Channel 38
> >
> > I was just wondering whether NY'ers get more TV from
> cable?
> > Or is the market just different? Or are NY'ers able to
> pull
> > in more stations from other markets easier than Chicago.
> > Despite what most sites lists, it's hard to pull in other
> > markets in Chicago, unless you pretty far out.
> >
>
> I suspect after Ch.5, 9 and Ch.11 dropped classic reruns
> like 'Love Boat' from their daytime lineup for Ricki,
> Montel, Tempesst, Rolonda Watts, Pat Bullard, Jenny Jones,
> Richard Bey and Jerry Springer, people watched the talk
> shows new at the time, or found something else to do.
> Along with network fare, they might watch more cable -
> probably more takers to HBO, and the premium services, and
> more viewing of the RSNs for pro-sports. The immigrant
> population probably leans more to satellite, for ethnic
> channels, along with the basic channels. Cablevision's
> rates are amongst the highest; or, atleast they were 10
> years ago, but people still kept cable or defected to
> satellite.
>
> There are also lot of noncommercial licensed stations in the
> area: WNET on VHF, 3 full power NJN stations on the
> dial(WNJN, WNJB, WNJT), along with WNYE, WLIW and WFME(not
> viewable, but still allocated). Maybe the FCC should have
> allocated one less noncommercial, and one more commercial,
> or CH.13 should have stayed commercial.
>
> Philly also doesn't have a solid indy. D.C. doesn't
> either. I don't know of any East coast markets with them,
> except for the occasional rimshot like WLNY, WFMZ and
> WNDS/WZMY, that don't exactly count if they air first run
> programming that is also seen in the main city. Low
> powered stations don't count in my opinion either.
>
> Along with WLNY, WFMZ might reach some market viewers.
> With WFMZ-DT being at full power, I suspect some of western
> Northern NJ can pick up WFMZ also. It reaches Mercer,
> Burlington and Camden Counties. But, they are more Lehigh
> Valley/Berks centric, with lot of local news for that
> region, and are not mustcarry in Northern/Central NJ. They
> have their mix of sitcoms, two courtroom shows,
> infomercials, and religious programming.
>
> People in Fairfield Co. might receive New Haven/Hartford
> networks, and by the Central NJ area, they might get
> networks from Philadelphia as secondary.
>
> Chicago is on the CST. WCIU and WGN benefit with
> syndicated selection choice, when the Chicago ABC, NBC, CBS
> lose an hour of daytime air. The ABC affiliate in Chicago
> can't run Regis&Kelly, Who Wants to be a Millionaire or Tony
> Danza, freeing it for the smaller stations.
>
> It does bring a point, though. If NY had a 7th station,
> with Chicago and LA would already have them, it could lead
> to more syndicated material for broadcast, and open a viable
> indy operation in Philly and other major markets. WGTW
> failed imo, without professional presentation, any sports
> programming, and given just the scrap-overs of syndication.
> They didn't have a strong classic rerun lineup. But
> another indy would probably just be more courtroom shows,
> Cops reruns, or something not very original.
>
"...or CH.13 should have stayed commercial."
I agree. Channel 13 should never have been allowed
to leave the state. Those who purchased the station
and moved the studios out of state reneged on their
promises to serve northern New Jersey. The last I
looked, the allocation is still commercial.
New Jersey Public Broadcasting operates four UHF
transmitters but the programming is the same on
all four. So they really should be treated as just
one station.