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Why FSR stinks

We can talk all day long about the loss of Bruno- and that's a big part of it- but there's more.

It seems to me that FSR- from the start- tried to hire failed comedians rather than actual sportscasters with a winning personality.

Outside of Bruce Jacobs- who is a sportscaster with a personality rather than a personality trying to be a sportscaster- there is not one guy I want to tune into.

I'm weary of listening to "Winner-Winner Chicken Dinner!" from David Stien- truly the worst catch phrase I have ever heard.

Jim Rome is just too snide and too urban for me; he looks like he should be taking bets rather than talking sports.

The shortcomings of J.T. the Brick have been discussed to death on this board; any sports talk show host that actually sells a videotape on how to call a sports talk show for $20 is a modern day snake oil salesman.

This goes back to the birth of the network- when they actually sold advertising to housecats.com and regularly interviewed porn stars.

So here's my solution.

YOU ARE FOX SPORTS- DAMMIT! FOX! You know- Red State- best network ever to cover NASCAR- the NFL- Baseball . . .

Those are the top three sports in America- so why don't you focus on them? NASCAR deserves not to have it's own show segregated from the rest of the programming- but rather incorporated into the fabric of every show. You'll get the listener ESPN won't.

End this fascination with "B" level stand-up comedians. They simply do not relate to the sort of listener that normally watches the above three sports- and they aren't funny, anyway.

Jim Rome gives you nothing. He's a horrible lead in to whatever show follows him. Developing a quality mid-day show- perhaps with hook-ups the way Colin Cowherd does to the local FOX affiliates- would go a long way.
 
> The shortcomings of J.T. the Brick have been discussed to
> death on this board; any sports talk show host that actually
> sells a videotape on how to call a sports talk show for $20
> is a modern day snake oil salesman.
>

Are you serious? He sells a videotape on how to call a sports talk show?! That is absolutely pathetic. And anyone who would actually buy the tape is even more pathetic.
 
JT is being sarcastic when he is says that. no one actually believes it. he's been talking about that tape since he did overnites on sports fan radio. i like the premise of his show (caller-driven) but i think he "plays" radio too much. he basically says nonsensical things to get reactions. now as far as david stein........i may be his biggest fan. i think the guy is hilarious. he doesnt know that much about sports (save golf) but he doesnt pretend to. he is more about entertainment and i dont see anything wrong with it. especially since i find him entertaining. the bright spots for FSR are czabe and jacobs. maybe i like smarmy abrasive hosts, but i listen to them as much as possible. the rest...........mehhh


Doc
 
Stien is hilarious?

Well, if you think "Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner" is funny, wait 'til you hear the one about why he wanted to cross the road.

And you might also want to stay away from things like sitcoms or live sketch comedy programs. You might rupture something.
 
Re: Stien is hilarious?

> Well, if you think "Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner" is funny,
> wait 'til you hear the one about why he wanted to cross the
> road.
>
> And you might also want to stay away from things like
> sitcoms or live sketch comedy programs. You might rupture
> something.
>
...on David Stein (sp?)...his comedy is forced. End of story.
 
Re: Stien is hilarious?

> > Well, if you think "Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner" is
> funny,
> > wait 'til you hear the one about why he wanted to cross
> the
> > road.
> >
> > And you might also want to stay away from things like
> > sitcoms or live sketch comedy programs. You might rupture
> > something.
> >
> ...on David Stein (sp?)...his comedy is forced. End of
> story.
>


This network is a total waste of air-time. Night-time isn't for entertainment..it's for sports talk when people want to know what happened. David Stein should be in the Catskills doing Borsct belt comedy clubs.

Czabe is the best they have..but he can't be doing too well if he still does an AM and PM drive show. You can't do that and be good at both.

What a waste!
 
However "the" DrRick.....

doesnt find "the" Pratte4life nor "the" josephandrews funny at all. different strokes for different folks, i guess. hell, people watched Friends, didnt they?

Take the canoli, leave the gun........

Doc
 
Re: However "the" DrRick.....

> doesnt find "the" Pratte4life nor "the" josephandrews funny
> at all. different strokes for different folks, i guess.
> hell, people watched Friends, didnt they?
>
> Take the canoli, leave the gun........
>
> Doc
>
I wasn't trying to be funny...not trying to be funny at all...and not personal, either. David Stein tries to be funny. And I have a wide, wide latitude as far as what passes for fair-2-middlin' sportstalk these days. Stein, and JT, fail miserably on that count. JT's best show moments these days are when he interacts with his update guy.
 
If you beleive JT actually sells a video on how to be a better caller, I've3 got some oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you as well....

Secondly, Jim Rome isn't actually a FSR broadcaster-sure he is employed by Premiere Radio, which is the same company which runs FSR, and he appears on FSR stations in various markets, but Rome isn't employed by FSR itself...


> We can talk all day long about the loss of Bruno- and that's
> a big part of it- but there's more.
>
> It seems to me that FSR- from the start- tried to hire
> failed comedians rather than actual sportscasters with a
> winning personality.
>
> Outside of Bruce Jacobs- who is a sportscaster with a
> personality rather than a personality trying to be a
> sportscaster- there is not one guy I want to tune into.
>
> I'm weary of listening to "Winner-Winner Chicken Dinner!"
> from David Stien- truly the worst catch phrase I have ever
> heard.
>
> Jim Rome is just too snide and too urban for me; he looks
> like he should be taking bets rather than talking sports.
>
> The shortcomings of J.T. the Brick have been discussed to
> death on this board; any sports talk show host that actually
> sells a videotape on how to call a sports talk show for $20
> is a modern day snake oil salesman.
>
> This goes back to the birth of the network- when they
> actually sold advertising to housecats.com and regularly
> interviewed porn stars.
>
> So here's my solution.
>
> YOU ARE FOX SPORTS- DAMMIT! FOX! You know- Red State- best
> network ever to cover NASCAR- the NFL- Baseball . . .
>
> Those are the top three sports in America- so why don't you
> focus on them? NASCAR deserves not to have it's own show
> segregated from the rest of the programming- but rather
> incorporated into the fabric of every show. You'll get the
> listener ESPN won't.
>
> End this fascination with "B" level stand-up comedians. They
> simply do not relate to the sort of listener that normally
> watches the above three sports- and they aren't funny,
> anyway.
>
> Jim Rome gives you nothing. He's a horrible lead in to
> whatever show follows him. Developing a quality mid-day
> show- perhaps with hook-ups the way Colin Cowherd does to
> the local FOX affiliates- would go a long way.
>
 
The fact of the matter is-

I listen to JT once- maybe twice a month. For about 20 minutes each time. It's all I can stand.

If he keeps telling that joke- and it is a joke- and I have caught on to it as infrequentily as I do listen- then the guy is out of material.

And while I know Rome is not officially FOX, why does it seem that the network is built around him?

Again, if they built the network around the heartland- which is pretty much the appeal of the network at large- and developed their own mid-day show- I think this network could be very successful.

As it is, I think the only thing holding back Sporting News is that they don't have the stations.

Yet.
 
> Outside of Bruce Jacobs- who is a sportscaster with a
> personality rather than a personality trying to be a
> sportscaster- there is not one guy I want to tune into.

Jacobs is very good when he sticks to sports. As KFYI Phoenix's morning man, he attempts to do news/talk - and proves that he doesn't know what he's talking about (nothing unusual at KFYI). He's so totally uninformed he's laughable.

> Jim Rome is just too snide and too urban for me; he looks
> like he should be taking bets rather than talking sports.

Rome's act got tiresome about 10 minutes after he started his first show.

> So here's my solution.
>
> YOU ARE FOX SPORTS- DAMMIT! FOX! You know- Red State- best
> network ever to cover NASCAR- the NFL- Baseball . . .

Actually, they are Clear Channel/Premiere Sports. Fox just leases out their name and I think that deal expires in a year or two. Fox, as a company, is associated with Sporting News Radio, which is rumored to be for sale. If News Corp. were to buy SNR, the CC/Fox deal would be dead. And to answer a couple of posts farther down in this thread, FSR does "officially" shut down to make way for Rome.

> Jim Rome gives you nothing. He's a horrible lead in to
> whatever show follows him. Developing a quality mid-day
> show- perhaps with hook-ups the way Colin Cowherd does to
> the local FOX affiliates- would go a long way.

Many of Clear Channel's sports stations pretty much exist solely for the purpose of clearing Jim Rome. Anything local is a bonus and FSR is nighttime/weekend filler. If Rome ever calls it quits, that'll be the end of some of their stations.
 
The thing is about Rome-

I think he's a weak guy to build a station around.

Nobody over 35 gets him. His personality doesn't go over well in Peoria.

I'm not saying he doesn't have an audience, but it's, what, about the same size as Air America's? That's peanuts.

So why would you build your station around him?
 
Re: The thing is about Rome-

> I think he's a weak guy to build a station around.
>
> Nobody over 35 gets him. His personality doesn't go over
> well in Peoria.
>
> I'm not saying he doesn't have an audience, but it's, what,
> about the same size as Air America's? That's peanuts.
>
> So why would you build your station around him?

Maybe because he's one of the most recognizable names in sports talk radio?<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
 
Re: The thing is about Rome-

> I think he's a weak guy to build a station around.
>
> Nobody over 35 gets him. His personality doesn't go over
> well in Peoria.
>
> I'm not saying he doesn't have an audience, but it's, what,
> about the same size as Air America's? That's peanuts.
>
> So why would you build your station around him?
>
well heck, I'm 40 and I get him. I even went to a Tour Stop here in Cleveland.

Disclaimer: I worked in Sports Radio and have been listening to Rome for years,before I was 40.

War put CZABE on SNR and have him follow Bruno

ONYSF
 
Still-

It's sophmoric radio.

The thing about Rome is- he's all about Romey. Give you an example- when he was picked up in Pittsburgh the first time he barely mentioned it. Maybe Pittsburgh isn't New York City, but still it's a nice pick up for a national talk show host and a good sports town. Even with his style, I'd like to be recognized when I decide to carry him.

Have you ever heard Rome do a guest spot on another talk show? If I'm going to make him the clean-up hitter on my local station, I need him to drive in some of my other hosts.

I don't think he's talentless. He's not my cup of tea, I have a bit more self-esteem than to be called a clone, but I can understand where a cynical Generation Y type would follow him.

But that's a limited audience. If I'm trying to build a station, I need him to be my lead-in for my drive time sports talk show host. Now, if I want my drive time guy to be a modern-day Pete Franklin, okay, that's a good lead in.

But cynical, abrasive talk is difficult to listen to 24-7.

And I think that's why on most of the leading sports talk stations in America, with the exception of XTRA, his home base, they don't carry Rome.
 
Re: The thing is about Rome-

> War put CZABE on SNR and have him follow Bruno

Ditto on that. And put Petros Papadakis in that mix as well. My dream lineup would be Bruno in the morning, followed by Rome, Czabe, and Petros.
 
Re: Stien is hilarious?

I wish FSR would get rid of that "just a bunch of guys, talking sports." that gets annoying.
 
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