why I want my favorite stations to add hd

[Ai4i]

Was listening to our favorite station while driving last night when a first adjacent channel undocumented station started grabbing the radio. If all regular FM stations incorporated HD technology, it might just discourage these undocumented stations from landing on their first adjacent channels. That/this would be good.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Was listening to our favorite station while driving last night when a first adjacent channel undocumented station started grabbing the radio. If all regular FM stations incorporated HD technology, it might just discourage these undocumented stations from landing on their first adjacent channels. That/this would be good.

Actually - no. Because IBOC actually uses a portion of the first adjacent channel, and is particularly sensitive to first adjacent interference, all that would happen would be that an HD radio would fail to lock on the HD, and be stuck in analog mode. The pirate would still override the analog mode. HD would do nothing to mitigate the problem. It is true that the pirate's target area would be covered by HD interference, but interference has seldom discouraged pirates in the past, and I doubt it would in the future. The rush they get comes from the knowledge they have flaunted the system, exercised their libertarian "right" to the public airwaves, etc. An actual audience is secondary to those motivations.

 

[Ai4i]

Some of these stations are commercial moneymakers and any encouragement for them to leave the station I want to hear alone and go elsewhere would be welcomed.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Some of these stations are commercial moneymakers and any encouragement for them to leave the station I want to hear alone and go elsewhere would be welcomed.

All you got to do is call the nearest FCC office and file a complaint about the pirate. They take piracy seriously and will move quickly and decisively to get the law breaker off the air.

Have you considered installing narrow ceramic filters in your radio? That should completely eliminate all but the very strongest of first adjacent interference.

 

[mmnassour]

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All you got to do is call the nearest FCC office and file a complaint about the pirate. They take piracy seriously and will move quickly and decisively to get the law breaker off the air.

ROFL! You haven't been in Austin Texas lately, have you? Check out that board regarding 90.1.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

All you got to do is call the nearest FCC office and file a complaint about the pirate. They take piracy seriously and will move quickly and decisively to get the law breaker off the air.

Let me guess: You don't live in Boston, New York City, southern California or southern Florida. The idea of the FCC moving "quickly and decisively" against pirates, at least in those areas, is downright laughable. They're losing both the battles and the war. In some areas there are pirates on almost every unoccupied frequency in the FM band. Many of them have advertisers and actually make money. Some even have live appearances from local politicians who are either unaware or uncaring about the stations' illegal status.

Further, the FCC cannot move "quickly," by its very nature. It must first compile an airtight case against a pirate by gathering evidence and trying to shut the station down. Failing that it must appear in federal court before a judge whose docket is most likely already beyond overloaded, to get an injunction and a warrant for in rem seizure of the equipment. All of this takes time.

The only time the FCC will move quickly against a pirate is if there's an imminent danger to life. Some pirates, especially in big cities, have been known to park themselves on the upper edge of the FM band with a transmitter which throws spurs into the aviation band immediately above the FM band. Those guys will be taken out really fast.

 

[Savage]

What's an "undocumented station?" Is that like an illegal alien (a/k/a "undocumented immigrant?")

Yikes, the political correctness of it all. :

 

[ajc_trw]

All you got to do is call the nearest FCC office and file a complaint about the pirate. They take piracy seriously and will move quickly and decisively to get the law breaker off the air.

Let me guess: You don't live in Boston, New York City, southern California or southern Florida. The idea of the FCC moving "quickly and decisively" against pirates, at least in those areas, is downright laughable.

http://radiodiscussions.com/smf/index.php?topic=220988.0

 

[kenglish]

Does the FCC even HAVE a place on the web, where a listener or viewer can file a complaint about interference?
The only thing I've seen is for station licensees to file them.
They do make it easy for viewers and listeners to file complaints against the stations themselves, it looks like.

 

[Darth_vader]

"All you need to do is call the nearest F¢¢ office and file a complaint about the underground broadcaster. They take a dim view of the public's usage of the corporately-owned 'public' airwaves, being influenced by large and corrupt commercial entities, and will move to make certain the public's ability to excercise our right to free speech over our airwaves is stifled."

^ Fixed.

 

[Ai4i]

What's an "undocumented station?"

They have failed to inform any regulatory agency of their intent to service the "public convenience and necessity" mandate ??? ;D
This thread began with the suggestion that individual broadcasters should use HD sidebands at full power to jam their undocumented neighbors away.

 

[diymedia]

Does the FCC even HAVE a place on the web, where a listener or viewer can file a complaint about interference?

The EB's own "Unlicensed Broadcast Station "Pirate" Reporting Form":

http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/PIRIX/

The FCC's enforcement is chiefly administrative. They're statutorily mandated to reduce or cancel fines if the dinged can demonstrate inability to pay (from $15k to $250-500). In rem seizures are a second-to-last resort, and an injunction the last resort. You can count on two hands how many of the latter two there've been in the last five years and still have fingers left over.

This is why state broadcasters' associations in FL, NJ, and NY got their states to criminalize pirate radio at the state level. Not like that's making much of a dent, though.

 

[nd2023]

In NYC there are pirates on the first adjacents of stations that have HD. The pirate station owners don't know what HD is, to them IBUZ sounds like static.

 

[audioguy]

In NYC there are pirates on the first adjacents of stations that have HD. The pirate station owners don't know what HD is, to them IBUZ sounds like static.

Well, DUH! That's what it sounds like to the average radio listener too, which is another reason why it is such a crappy system. The more observant listeners are able to recognize the nasty, telltale whine in between stations.

I will never, EVER buy another HD radio, so help me. Even if they sign off every single analog station. I've already switched to the Internet for my digital radio service, using a CC Wi-Fi radio.

 

[Ai4i]

I will never, EVER buy another HD radio, so help me. Even if they sign off every single analog station.

Yeah, you will

 

[KB1OKL]

In NYC there are pirates on the first adjacents of stations that have HD. The pirate station owners don't know what HD is, to them IBUZ sounds like static.

Well, DUH! That's what it sounds like to the average radio listener too, which is another reason why it is such a crappy system. The more observant listeners are able to recognize the nasty, telltale whine in between stations.

I will never, EVER buy another HD radio, so help me. Even if they sign off every single analog station. I've already switched to the Internet for my digital radio service, using a CC Wi-Fi radio.

I bought my first and last HD radio 3 or 4 years ago.