Fate Of New AM For Los Angeles Now In Hands Of Federal Appeals Court.
The pandemic may have caused delays for the holders of a construction permit to build a new AM in Los Angeles. But a lack of a tower site appears to
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Why is a federal appeals court beating a dead horse over 1500 AM in Los Angeles
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I think eventually the FCC is going to stop accepting applications for new AM stations, like they did with daytimers.
Hopefully the court will save Schwab Multimedia from themselves and block this senseless quest. Maybe the people from this board could conduct an intervention. Or is it possible they know something I don't about the future of AM radio?
Maybe if they keep jamming repeaters/translators/LPFM on the FM frequency some "broadcasters" will have nothing left to chose from but the AM band and hoping that it becomes "digital" so it sounds cleaner. Also, pigs and monkeys may fly out of my butt if that ever happens.
From the article
"With a proposed 12,000-watts day and 15,000-watts night"
Uhh.. no.
"With a proposed 12,000-watts day and 15,000-watts night"
Uhh.. no.
Having more power at night than during the day is not impossible. Daytime has adjacent channel protections that aren't there at night - in this case 1500 has to protect 1510 in Ontario and 1490s in Bakersfield and Santa Barbara during the day but these have no effect on the nighttime allocation.
Back in the 1980s, KWUN in Concord, CA was a daytimer on 1480 shoehorned in with a 5 tower array to protect a co-channel station in Merced and first adjacent signals in Sacramento and Petaluma. When the FCC relaxed the nighttime protection requirements they got a quick and easy nighttime authorization for 500 watts using same DA pattern, then got a CP to increase their night power to 5Kw while keeping the 500 watt daytime power. Unfortunately, they lost their tower site to a new housing development and went dark before they could implement the 5Kw night power.
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No, you missed my point.. they werent proposing 12,000 watts day and 15,000 watts night
They were proposing 120 watts day and 150 watts night, i thought i recall? peanut power.. @DavidEduardo would remember better maybe, @Lou_S
The coverage of 120 watts on 1500 kHz in L.A. will be laughable. He might as well set up a couple of Part 15 Hamilton Rangemaster transmitters. Or take over that TIS at the top of the band that's been transmitting nothing but a repeating loop of "Testing, testing, today is a great day, testing" for over a year now.
Ah, thanks for the update. I tried looking up 1500 in the FCC's database but there was nothing to be found. I guess it's officially dead unless they win the court case.
What TIS is running the Testing, testing, today is a great day, testing"?
Look up DKWIF instead of KWIF.
The station originally operated from a site on the Verdugo mountains with a 6 tower array at 10 kW daytime and 1 kW night, until the license was lost. And as I understand it the owner of the property would not allow a new station to be located there. After years off the air the new operators proposed a new facility in the Sun Valley area. It was accepted by the FCC, but local residents said NIMBY. They didn't want to ride their horses and have to look at "ugly" radio towers, and of course, having no physics background, the residents also said they were afraid of "radiation" from the towers. If it weren't for this initial objection the station would probably still be up and running today
I'm wondering that myself. This guy, who's in L.A., has featured it in many of his antique radio restoration videos. For example, at 29:00 in this one:
It's in the Expanded Band, because some old radios don't go high enough to tune it in.
What frequency?
Appeals Court Shoots Down Bid for New SoCal AM
Appeals Court Shoots Down Bid for New SoCal AM - Radio World
A determined pursuit to build a brand-new AM station in the Los Angeles area has apparently come to an end.
www.radioworld.com
AM may or may not be dead, but it is a shame that 1500 has been vacant for so many years. As I have mentioned on another thread, maybe Saul can come to the rescue, get the CP and diplex it off of 1260 as that could be made to work..
OR...maybe someone can put a 250 W station back on the air in Burbank on 1490 ha ha!
OR...maybe someone can put a 250 W station back on the air in Burbank on 1490 ha ha!
The last AM Auction was a dud.
Around Boise we had something like 11 applicants for new AM's.
None were built and three of the existing thirteen are off the air.
Around Boise we had something like 11 applicants for new AM's.
None were built and three of the existing thirteen are off the air.
So how much has this battle with the courts and FCC cost over the years, do you all think?
It doesn't look good for that KSPA station on 1510 kHz that complained about them, either. They lost the lease to their transmitter site and have been using a 10-watt TIS transmitter and a 13-foot rooftop antenna since 2021.
And speaking of which, that "today is a great day" TIS on around 1700 kHz in L.A. has been off the air since late last year.
And speaking of which, that "today is a great day" TIS on around 1700 kHz in L.A. has been off the air since late last year.
There is a TIS on 1500 in Beverly Hills. There are two TIS on 1700 in LA County. One at the Burbank Airport and the other is next LAX at the 405 and Imperial Highway. Since neither car has an AM radio I cannot check on them.
The STA for KSPA shows to have expired on June 28, 2022.
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