Why is Adobe Audition

[SFM-Ptgal]

So used in the US? I've been working with a few editors an now I'm stuck on the Cubase Sx and Samplitude. I find them much better than AA because gives me confidence and speed of edition. No assle on saving the audio files because no replications are done. All comes from the native file. The interface, the low resources needed are major advantages.
Just my

By the way... Has anyone here worked with a sinister sound editing software called "Microsound" from MTU? I have ;D

 

[hungryhawk]

Good Question! I can't speak for anyone else but on this board but here is why I enjoy Adobe Audition (and believe me I have had my Grumblings about this product too...):

I am a Producer for Commercial Radio. I work for a middle level media corporation and I have to agree with you the software component IS a little on the skinny side. For example: there are not a sh**-ton of options for high-end producers and audiophiles. Also, there is often extra pointing/clicking/scrolling neccessery to perform what we would think of as "Simple Functions" (see my post about auto select), but you have to remember that I'm making 20-30 60) commercials per day and have relativley light production demands for each spot (often times no more than a VO track and a music bed). I'm not working for Tod-AO or Lucasfilms or anything like that. I like presets. I like simple screen layouts. I don't have time to "produce" radio, I "make" radio. It's like the difference between a chef and a cook. Oh plus AA is relativley cheap and I believe that you can get a good buisness deal when buing in quantity.

For years I was a protools user and getting over to audition was a stuggle but I'm fine with it now. (esp. having used the orban, ableton, soundforge, saw and some others).

As far as "saving files goes" I'm not sure what you mean, I'd like to check out the samplitude software sometime to see how it flys. Anychance you want to send me a free fullworking legal copy? HA!

Anyway, thanks for turning me on to some new products and keep in touch!

 

[Coronaextra]

Because it's cheap, unfortunately.

 

[easyfm]

Another one here who bought Audition so as to have a "standard" format for interchange because it was becoming ubiquitous. But I actually do all my radio prep and edit work in Samplitude and only bring it into Audition at the end.

The same thing applies in the recording world with ProTools. I have it, so I can say I've got it, but largely work in Samplitude.

 

[Emmett1057]

I moved to Audition (actually Cool Edit Pro at the time) from Pro Tools, because it's extremely fast and it was one of the earliest programs to adopt the 32-bit floating point system. The included effects are also outstanding, from a sound quality point of view. They lack the visual feedback that I'd like to see, so I now rely largely upon third-party plug-ins. As an editor, nothing beats Audition's capabilities. The original Cool edit was designed as an editor...Not a multitracker. And the program has continued to evolve as an outstanding editor. However, the multitrack (especially in 2.0) could use some streamlining. Audition 1.5 was solid as hell and worked very well...But it lacked automation and ASIO. 2.0 added those things, but screwed up several other things. So right now, 2.0 just needs to be refined for speed and stability. I still use 2.0, but there are things I miss about 1.5.

I've used pretty much everything on the market...Nothing is as fast as Audition (workflow, not program speed). At this point, if Audition dropped off the face of the earth, I'd probably go back to Pro Tools. I'm still pretty comfortable with it, even though I don't really like it at all, and the mix bus is flawed. Either Pro Tools or Wavelab. Wavelab is solid too. I don't like Samplitude at all...Too musical. Same goes for Sonar, Tracktion and Cubase. I don't mid Vegas, but it's not rubust enough for audio for me...Too focused on video. Logic is alright.

Use what your comfortable with. If you like Samplitude, use it. It comes down to what's going to work best for you...Just like all gear. I work out of different studios all the time. I don't mind going to track a band on Sonar or Pro Tools at all. If I have to use something other than Audition to mix a song or two, I can live with that. And if I'm traveling and I have to use a borrowed studio, I don't complain. But if I have to spend any long amount of time in a single studio, I'm very particular about the gear, software and room layout. I have to be comfortable. I'd rather work in a $10,000 studio that I designed, than a $100,000 studio made for someone else.

So for me, it has nothing to do with price. I chose Audition because I was unhappy with Pro Tools, and didn't reallly care for anything else on the market. It works the way I think it should (for the most part) and I'm comfortable with it.

Emmett

 

[VODood]

I have AA 1.5 and 2.0. I prefer to use 1.5 for many of the reasons Emmett sited.

I also have Vegas 7.0. Geared for video, I find it to be great for audio.

IMO, audio coming out of AA isn't the same as Vegas. Audio out of Vegas is MUCH better. I can bus to a Master out where I have Waves REQ 6 and L3 loaded.

Vegas allows for bussing to a Master over 1.5. If you can do bussing to a Master in 1.5... I don't know how but would love to know.

Ann Dewig, worldwide VO and former Creative Director at DC101, KEGL and others, records all VO in AA 1.5. Effects the VO in AA, then does the full mix in Vegas using Sony plugs and WAVES.

If I have the time, I too will produce using Vegas.

 

[menotti1]

I hear Ann Dewig, uses a simple DBX 286A and the U87..She sure is smooth and one of the best i've heard.

 

[Marathon Don]

I'm new here (and inexperienced, compared to most of you guys). So my dumb question is, how does Audacity compare with Audition, Pro Tools or the others? You can't beat Audacity's price... free.

 

[salchris]

Love these posts, as an imaging director and member of a commercial production team, we graduated from SAW to AA 1.0 (sorry no upgrades due to budget constraints and a new million dollar marble floor in our new facility but that's another story). I've created all my effects that I use on a consistent basis as favorites and then assigned them short cut keys, that I use virtually on the fly. Because we create so many pieces of production a day, it really has been a life saver. I wanted to get PTools but I've found that the pc version (we're a pc shop) is not that great.

Larson
KYYS/KUDL Kansas City

 

[bobbybooey]

I use ProTools at the station I work at, and Vegas w/ SoundForge at home. I spent 6 months at a station that had AA... I was able to get stuff done but it took waaayyy longer than with Vegas (and I'm just using v. 4.0)... granted it's got some cool built-in plugs, but SoundForge does too. for multi-track editing, Vegas is the easiest I've dealt with, though I'm interested in checking out the new multi-track version of SoundForge.

 

[jefflaurence]

Any of you tried Torsionaire's Traqutique v 3.3? WOW! Using the HVC mode and with the mix-whizzer you can't beat it for speed. Plus it has a bank of 160 preset gaines options that let you do double in the same time frame. Freaking amazing and it links to the 8.1 Kineen system if you adapt it with a plug buster. (Those are only available in Europe tho' but WILL work on a Vista)

 

[J-Rod]

I'm Fairly "green" in Radio. I've been working full time for almost 2 years, and have a degree in Broadcasting.

Although the years are short the experience is huge, and I've "grown-up" with Cool Edit/Audition. In college it was the de facto program, pro tools was available, but no one liked the interface, and very few people used it.

Audition just seemed more user friendly to me. I first used it as a part-time worker at a classic rock station. The program manager said "here it is, see what you can do."

and that's how I learned... And that'as why I used it, first experience, and it fits in the basic layout of all other windows programs... It's kinda like "word" for audio.

 

[VODood]

I hear Ann Dewig, uses a simple DBX 286A and the U87..She sure is smooth and one of the best i've heard.

When I was using Ann on the classic rock in Raleigh (01-04), she was using a Symetrix 528e and a Neumann TLM103. Her husband is an engineer. Built her a SWEET studio!

Annie was only in commercial radio about 8 years. Refined her skills and now makes a sh*tload doing VO, including ESPN, WE, Oxygen, and more, plus radio, etc.

www.anndewig.com

 

[VODood]

Love these posts, as an imaging director and member of a commercial production team, we graduated from SAW to AA 1.0 (sorry no upgrades due to budget constraints and a new million dollar marble floor in our new facility but that's another story). I've created all my effects that I use on a consistent basis as favorites and then assigned them short cut keys, that I use virtually on the fly. Because we create so many pieces of production a day, it really has been a life saver. I wanted to get PTools but I've found that the pc version (we're a pc shop) is not that great.

Larson
KYYS/KUDL Kansas City

New PT MBox Mini is now out - $300! And it's pc friendly.

 

[menotti1]

ann dewig informed me via email she now uses a u87 and an Avalon in her whisper quiet studio.Is this Lady smooth or what?? But got good mileage out of the TLM103 and DBX 286A before using the current mic chain...

 

[VODood]

ann dewig informed me via email she now uses a u87 and an Avalon in her whisper quiet studio.Is this Lady smooth or what?? But got good mileage out of the TLM103 and DBX 286A before using the current mic chain...

286A is a really good box, especially for the low retail price of $199! I have one. Using my old 528 right now with my ISA 220. Will probably hold onto the dbx.

I have a Valley 400 that I MIGHT sell. If I were to sell it...anyone interested?

 

[Emmett1057]

286A is a really good box, especially for the low retail price of $199! I have one. Using my old 528 right now with my ISA 220. Will probably hold onto the dbx.

I'm picking up a couple of these this year. My wife sounds terrible on my mic chain...She does enough work that she needs to sound good, but not enough to need a high-dollar chain. I'm going to pair hers with a Heil PR-40. Then I'm getting a second 286A for my Audio-Technica AT4040. My Voicemaster Pro will be paired with a new Sennheiser 416. I don't like anything as well as my Focusrite, but I like the 286A a lot...Enough to buy two!

Emmett

 

[J-Love]

I currently produce a morning show in a major market along with several syndicated shows for radio. I also compose music for several TV shows as well as producing music for commercial release. So that said, I own just about every type of editing software for both PC and Mac platforms and have to say for day to day radio production, Vegas is hands down the winner. AA is cool, but lacks a few key features to speed up the process. I consider myself a PT expert and would NEVER dream of using it for radio production. But then again, I would never use Vegas to produce a studio album. If you ever have the opportunity to try out Vegas (there's a 30 day full functioning trial on the Sony site www.sonymediasoftware.com) give it a spin. After a few tweaks, you'll be flying guaranteed. I'd have to say that AA is a first choice because of pricepoint

 

[fritobandito]

You have to consider who the players were when Cool Edit came on the scene.

SAW was very popular and ProTools less so, probably because of cost. Many stations were still doing most if not all of their production on some type of non-PC multitrack recorder. SAW and ProTools both had limitations. Many people thought SAW was difficult to operate and ProTools was still prohibitively expensive for most radio stations.

The original Cool Edit was a two track editor only. Imagine Audition 1.0 without the multitrack side. If I remember correctly it was shareware and very inexpensive. I did a lot of production with the original Cool Edit using the "mix paste" feature, just basically layering audio on audio.

I liked it because it was very intuitive. For a while, I used it in conjunction with a 4 track, eventually abandoning analog tape altogether.

Eventually Cool Edit developed into Cool Edit Pro and added multitrack capability. Then CEP became Adobe Audition.

It's still very easy to use, intuitive and comes with powerful effects right out of the box. I suspect this is why it is still the industry standard. If money were the only consideration, Audacity would be king right now.

 

[titoisradio]

You have to consider who the players were when Cool Edit came on the scene.

SAW was very popular and ProTools less so, probably because of cost. Many stations were still doing most if not all of their production on some type of non-PC multitrack recorder. SAW and ProTools both had limitations. Many people thought SAW was difficult to operate and ProTools was still prohibitively expensive for most radio stations.

The original Cool Edit was a two track editor only. Imagine Audition 1.0 without the multitrack side. If I remember correctly it was shareware and very inexpensive. I did a lot of production with the original Cool Edit using the "mix paste" feature, just basically layering audio on audio.

I liked it because it was very intuitive. For a while, I used it in conjunction with a 4 track, eventually abandoning analog tape altogether.

Eventually Cool Edit developed into Cool Edit Pro and added multitrack capability. Then CEP became Adobe Audition.

It's still very easy to use, intuitive and comes with powerful effects right out of the box. I suspect this is why it is still the industry standard. If money were the only consideration, Audacity would be king right now.

Also at the time of SAW & Cool Edit Pro, Pro Tools was only available on Macs.