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WHY IS KAMP STILL ON THE CHR PANEL?

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atlantaboy

I don't want to beat this to death, but Mediabase just updated its CHR panel, and KAMP is still on there - it won't even play Pink/Raise Your Glass, the current #1 song on the CHR chart, which makes it more Rhythmic IMO than 33 stations on the Rhythmic panel - call me crazy, but if your listeners don't like the #1 song in the country, to me you're probably in the wrong format

I'm just wondering if it was even discussed...
 
A much better question would be why is Star 94 Atlanta still on the panel???
They don't play Far East Movement, Rihanna, Nelly, Flo Rida, the latest by the B.E.P., the latest by Ke$ha, Taio Cruz, and loads of other mass appeal CHR core artists.
On top of that, look at some of the songs on Star 94's Top 20: Lady Antebellum's "Need You Now", B.E.P.'s "I gotta Feeling", Michael Franti "Say Hey". This is the only "CHR" that still plays these songs so much.

As for Pink, L.A. has always been one of the tougher CHR markets for her. 102.7 KIIS-FM wasn't playing "Who Knew" when Pink topped the CHR/Pop charts with it.
 
Yes they do play "Raise Your Glass". In fact, they played it first before KIIS even started playing it. AMP just probably doesn't play it as much as KIIS.
 
CHRles said:
A much better question would be why is Star 94 Atlanta still on the panel???
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It isn't - Mediabase is moving it off as of this week, but they're not touching KAMP (that's what prompted me to write this thread)
 
sfradio said:
according to yes.com pink's raise your glass is number 70 on KAMP-FM
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It's not in their Top 50 on Mediabase, so it's being played less than 12 times per week (and it's the #1 CHR song in the country)
 
With Star 94 being moved to HOT AC, it is only fair in my opinion that AMP moves to CHR/rhythmic. Sure, AMP plays Edward Maya's new song, Katy Perry, and Pink but if you could look at the rhythmic top 40 chart, all those artists are in the top 40 so it makes the most sense.
 
OClistener said:
With Star 94 being moved to HOT AC, it is only fair in my opinion that AMP moves to CHR/rhythmic.
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Fair??? Star 94 was on the panel for years.
Amp isn't gonna be moved anytime soon, and they will definitely keep on playing more than just Rhythmic hits - they'll play a few select crossover Pop/Rock titles when needed.
 
CHRles said:
Amp isn't gonna be moved anytime soon, and they will definitely keep on playing more than just Rhythmic hits - they'll play a few select crossover Pop/Rock titles when needed.
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Those "few select crossover pop/rock titles" they play (Katy Perry and Kesha) are Rhythmic hits, with huge bullets on the Rhythmic chart

Sorry, but when posters are so excited that Star 94 is being moved to Hot AC, and then still defend KAMP as a CHR, it just seems like their personal tastes in music are dictating where they think stations should be placed
 
Noticed 97.1 Amp Radio is playing "Far East Movement - Rocketeer" not many stations are playing that song yet.

As for what format 97.1 Amp Radio is, it is a CHR.

Also "Yeah 3x - Chris Brown" KIIS is playing that I saw on YES.com along with "December - Taylor Swift" Is Amp Radio playing Taylor Swift?
 
Amp radio's youth leaning sound is much more relevant to CHR radio than Star 94's Adult leaning approach. Amp's music mix is much more in sync with whats hot in Pop culture when compared to Star 94. Those are the facts.
Does Amp straddle the line with CHR/Rhythm? Of course, easily. It could be a dual reporter, but overall classifying it as CHR/Pop is valid. It's really not all that different from the music philosophy of (defunct) Q106 San Diego in the late 80s. Or the current sound of Channel 93-3 San Diego and Movin 99.7 San Francisco.
If the Top 20 on Billboard's Hot 100, or on Itunes, or on the CHR/Pop charts consisted of a lot more Pop/Rock material from the likes of Sick Puppies or Sara Bareilles then it would be easier to conclude that Amp is a Rhythmic CHR. However, since Amp is playing most of the the big Pop hits on the charts, and especially the type of Pop sound that defines CHR radio in California, it's easy to see them as a CHR/Pop outlet.
 
CHRles said:
Amp radio's youth leaning sound is much more relevant to CHR radio than Star 94's Adult leaning approach. Amp's music mix is much more in sync with whats hot in Pop culture when compared to Star 94. Those are the facts.
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Agree with that, except you could say that about half the Rhythmic panel - especially the part about the playlist lining up with the I-Tunes chart - there are literally 40-50 Rhythmic stations nationwide that would fit that description of currently being "in sync with whats hot in Pop culture" and having a "youth leaning sound"

To me, the difference between Rhythmic and CHR/Pop is that when pop/rock songs do come around that are hugely popular (Raise Your Glass, Animal, etc.), Rhythmic stations won't play these songs cause they don't get good callout with the Rhythmic audience

If you're gonna compare KAMP to other stations, it's much more similar I think to B96/Chicago (a Rhythmic station) than it is to Channel 93-3/San Diego (which has Pink in power rotation, and plays Neon Trees)
 
KZON is playing BOTH P!NK and Neon Trees! Those are the two pop rock songs they play with the rest of the rhythmic hits. They're also playing "Yeah 3X" and "rocketeer". It's no secret that KZON has always been my favorite Phoenix station, ever since they came about in summer 2007.
 
KDM 7000 said:
KZON is playing BOTH P!NK and Neon Trees! Those are the two pop rock songs they play with the rest of the rhythmic hits. They're also playing "Yeah 3X" and "rocketeer". It's no secret that KZON has always been my favorite Phoenix station, ever since they came about in summer 2007.
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Still don't get why KZON 101.5 Jamz is still labled as a Rhythmic/CHR. They need to be labled as a CHR. Bet others agree on that one. And I know they started as a Rhythmic.

As for 97.1 Amp Radio, I don't think they play either Pink's new song or Neon Trees or even Taylor Swift's new song. I checked on YES.com. I might take what I said back earlier about them being a CHR. Maybe they should be labled as a Rhythmic/CHR.
 
Ken said:
KDM 7000 said:
KZON is playing BOTH P!NK and Neon Trees! Those are the two pop rock songs they play with the rest of the rhythmic hits. They're also playing "Yeah 3X" and "rocketeer". It's no secret that KZON has always been my favorite Phoenix station, ever since they came about in summer 2007.
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Still don't get why KZON 101.5 Jamz is still labled as a Rhythmic/CHR. They need to be labled as a CHR. Bet others agree on that one. And I know they started as a Rhythmic.

As for 97.1 Amp Radio, I don't think they play either Pink's new song or Neon Trees or even Taylor Swift's new song. I checked on YES.com. I might take what I said back earlier about them being a CHR. Maybe they should be labled as a Rhythmic/CHR.
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You can say the same thing about why WCKX/Columbus, whose playlist favors Hip-Hop/R&B, is on the Rhythmic panel and you'll get the same response.
 
atlantaboy said:
KZON isn't playing Neon Trees - they play Pink, but so do 34 other stations on the Rhythmic panel
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It was playing Neon Trees for over a month, just as Amp Radio played Pink.
 
They also played Orianthi on KZON as well. I'm not sure is 30H!3 is still in their recurrents, but they also had that going for quite some time, too.
 
KAMP played "Raise Your Glass" before ANY other station in the market- KIIS, KBIG- but that was months ago and they have moved on. As someone pointed out, they are one of the first CHRs to be playing Far East Movement "Rocketeer", which is an LA based band, so they should be one of the firsts on the track.

KAMP plays more rhythmic product because that is what market forces dictate. Los Angeles is younger and more ethnically diverse than most markets, and these demographics favor rhythmic music, not Daughtry or Taylor Swift.

This begs the question- chicken or the egg. CHR is supposed to represent the 40 biggest radio airplay hits in the country at the time. Arguably, it should be a sampling of the regional varieties of hit music. Stations in larger cities and Sunbelt cities will probably tilt rhythmic, while stations in smaller markets may lean more rock, or play more country than a typical CHR. Overall, though, no CHR station should be forced to play every top 40 hit. The chart should reflect an amalgation of what the CHR stations in the country are playing. If there is demand for certain songs, then they will get played. If not, then they'll most likely get skipped by your local CHR.
 
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