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Why no ABC bug during the Oscars?

The program is the property of AMPAS and ABC is broadcasting it; they can do whatever they want, including telling ABC to take off the bugs.

Though it didn't stop the local station where I am from putting their logo on the screen (WISN in Milwaukee).
 
mrschimpf said:
The program is the property of AMPAS and ABC is broadcasting it; they can do whatever they want, including telling ABC to take off the bugs.

Though it didn't stop the local station where I am from putting their logo on the screen (WISN in Milwaukee).


Then why do non-Disney owned shows on ABC have the bug displayed?
 
nomadcowatbk said:
Then why do non-Disney owned shows on ABC have the bug displayed?
Cause they don't have the power that the Oscars have when negationing a TV deal. The Oscars (which it is officially called now) as part of its tv deal said ABC can't have a onscreen bug. I think ABC & the oscars worked it out that they won't have bug, but a verbal network ID would be used going into eat break....hence the constant female VO saying "still to come blah blah blah here on ABC" & "the 85th academy awards will continue here on ABC".

As for locals, my guess is for legal purposes they're allowed to show the TOH ID, which often includes a station bug in the same place ABC's bug is located, but probably can't leave it up.
 
Actually, I think the Hallmark Hall Of Fame movie with Julia Stiles in Boston a few weeks ago didn't have an ABC bug on the screen either.
 
I suspect AMPAS would be furious if it knew how Sinclair's ABC affiliates (including my local one) were running their "CONTACT DIRECTV" banners across the top of the screen multiple times during the Oscar broadcast. At least my local station has the switching capability to run the crawl without dropping out of HD; my understanding is that some of them (WXLV in Winston-Salem, evidently) had to drop down to SD to insert the local crawl. Either way, though, it's almost certainly a technical violation of the contract between AMPAS and ABC.
 
It's been almost 10 years, but I believe that CBS did not have the logo bug during the Masters Golf Tournament, during the Martha Burk brouhaha. Also they were commercial-free.

cd
 
KML-224 said:
Actually, I think the Hallmark Hall Of Fame movie with Julia Stiles in Boston a few weeks ago didn't have an ABC bug on the screen either.

When the Hallmark Hall of Fame ran on CBS, there were no network bugs. Also there were fewer local breaks.
 
cd637299 said:
It's been almost 10 years, but I believe that CBS did not have the logo bug during the Masters Golf Tournament, during the Martha Burk brouhaha. Also they were commercial-free.

cd

The Masters is notorious for making CBS do anything they ask them to do. I loved the David Letterman bit he had the day after a Masters Tournament had concluded a few years ago. Letterman was making cracks about the stodgy nature of the presentation during an on-air phone call with CBS President Leslie Moonves, who could be heard nervously trying to shift the tone of the conversation to the more positive aspects (i.e. kissing the big boys asses) of the production.
 
rnigma said:
KML-224 said:
Actually, I think the Hallmark Hall Of Fame movie with Julia Stiles in Boston a few weeks ago didn't have an ABC bug on the screen either.

When the Hallmark Hall of Fame ran on CBS, there were no network bugs. Also there were fewer local breaks.

no Hallmark crown bug? Is the Hallmark hall of fame just a time buy where the sponsor supplies the program?
 
Scott Fybush said:
I suspect AMPAS would be furious if it knew how Sinclair's ABC affiliates (including my local one) were running their "CONTACT DIRECTV" banners across the top of the screen multiple times during the Oscar broadcast. At least my local station has the switching capability to run the crawl without dropping out of HD; my understanding is that some of them (WXLV in Winston-Salem, evidently) had to drop down to SD to insert the local crawl. Either way, though, it's almost certainly a technical violation of the contract between AMPAS and ABC.

KMBC also cut away early for snow storm coverage
 
The bugless presentation was one of the few highlights of a sub-par Oscars telecast. Nothing says classy like tasteless jokes directed at a 9 y/o girl. AMPAS/ABC needs to sack Seth McFarlane.
 
Irishfl said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Then why do non-Disney owned shows on ABC have the bug displayed?
As for locals, my guess is for legal purposes they're allowed to show the TOH ID, which often includes a station bug in the same place ABC's bug is located, but probably can't leave it up.

WISN left it up all through the show, using the version of their bug used for syndicated programming, but they leave their logo on for all ABC programming. Since they're one of ABC's strongest and oldest affiliates and a Hearst station though, ABC isn't pulling their affiliation anytime soon at all (and besides that they have a nice 1080i signal without any subchannels).
 
mrschimpf said:
Since {WISN is} one of ABC's strongest and oldest affiliates
...strongest, yes; oldest, no. Of its 58 years on the air, WISN-TV has been an ABC affiliate for only 42 of those years and 35 years this current stretch; between 1961 and 1977 WISN-TV was "The Milwaukee Address of CBS" (as it called itself). Both WKOW-TV/v27 Madison (56 years) and WAOW/9 Wausau (47 years) have been Wisconsin ABC affiliates much longer than WISN-TV has...
 
BD Sullivan said:
The Masters is notorious for making CBS do anything they ask them to do. I loved the David Letterman bit he had the day after a Masters Tournament had concluded a few years ago. Letterman was making cracks about the stodgy nature of the presentation during an on-air phone call with CBS President Leslie Moonves, who could be heard nervously trying to shift the tone of the conversation to the more positive aspects (i.e. kissing the big boys asses) of the production.
The broadcast rights for The Masters is delt with on a year-by-year basis. It just so happens that Augusta has gone with CBS year after year but is under zero assumption to do so and could jump to another network if they see fit. As such, CBS does do it's fair share of boot licking to keep it's annual airing rights. Gary McCord said some flippant comment during a Masters telecast that Augusta did not like many years ago. As such, McCord hasn't done a Masters telecast since despite being under CBS' golf coverage employ to this day. McCord is more or less banned from Augusta.

"A tradition unlike any other" indeed.

That being said, I love the televised coverage of The Masters every year. It's so classy. So, I guess those fat Southern cats that light cigars with $100 bills at Butler Cabin have something working right for them. 8)
 
Ultimajock said:
mrschimpf said:
Since {WISN is} one of ABC's strongest and oldest affiliates
...strongest, yes; oldest, no. Of its 58 years on the air, WISN-TV has been an ABC affiliate for only 42 of those years and 35 years this current stretch; between 1961 and 1977 WISN-TV was "The Milwaukee Address of CBS" (as it called itself). Both WKOW-TV/v27 Madison (56 years) and WAOW/9 Wausau (47 years) have been Wisconsin ABC affiliates much longer than WISN-TV has...

I know not the oldest, but for all the years it's been part of ABC and barely regards their time with CBS in the 60's and 70's with any historical interest (for some reason until they finally got to WDJT, CBS was regarded as the shameful network to affiliate with in Milwaukee), it might as well be.
 
Robnoxious said:
BD Sullivan said:
The Masters is notorious for making CBS do anything they ask them to do. I loved the David Letterman bit he had the day after a Masters Tournament had concluded a few years ago. Letterman was making cracks about the stodgy nature of the presentation during an on-air phone call with CBS President Leslie Moonves, who could be heard nervously trying to shift the tone of the conversation to the more positive aspects (i.e. kissing the big boys asses) of the production.
Gary McCord said some flippant comment during a Masters telecast that Augusta did not like many years ago. As such, McCord hasn't done a Masters telecast since despite being under CBS' golf coverage employ to this day. McCord is more or less banned from Augusta.
I believe he joked about how fast the greens were by saying they had been "bikini-waxed." In the mid-60's, Jack Whitaker was banned for calling the crowd a mob. One continuing directive: there are no fans, they are "patrons."
 
Why no ABC bug during the Oscars?


Cause they were sponsored by Orkin? ???
 
Perhaps the feed going through ABC Master Control was being fed to broadcasters in other countries.

Imagine viewers watching the Oscars on CTV in Canada or BBC-1 in the U.K. seeing an ABC "bug"!
 
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