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scopejock

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Can someone who works in radio explain to me why management is so secretive whenever changes are made at a station? Why don't they just announce that P&K are no longer on 105.3 and are 'pursuing other opportunities, yada, yada, yada? Why the 'they're on vacation' and best-ofs? And when they change formats, why don't they announce it ahead of time instead of one morning you turn on the station and it's country music instead of talk?
 
I guess the general feeling is that 'no comment' is the safest bet. If any statement by the station is given, it becomes 'official,' can be misconstrued or misunderstood no matter what they said, and perhaps even a seemingly innocent statement could get a station in legal trouble with a departing talent. Besides, let's say P&K had the morning show deal wrapped up at 93.3...do you think 105.3 is going to give P&K any free publicity? CBS is protecting THEIR OWN morning show.

I don't agree with this line of thinking, but that's about the reality of it. Radio's not going to report on happenings outside their little station or cluster (well, except for my show...see tagline below) or to do anything to help out former talent in getting a job elsewhere. It's all pay-as-you-go, and when you're cut loose, it was as if you never worked there. You're never mentioned again, you can't visit the building, and you probably lost most of the friends you'd made while working there. That's not just my story...that's most folks in the industry.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
I guess the general feeling is that 'no comment' is the safest bet. If any statement by the station is given, it becomes 'official,' can be misconstrued or misunderstood no matter what they said, and perhaps even a seemingly innocent statement could get a station in legal trouble with a departing talent. Besides, let's say P&K had the morning show deal wrapped up at 93.3...do you think 105.3 is going to give P&K any free publicity? CBS is protecting THEIR OWN morning show.

I don't agree with this line of thinking, but that's about the reality of it. Radio's not going to report on happenings outside their little station or cluster (well, except for my show...see tagline below) or to do anything to help out former talent in getting a job elsewhere. It's all pay-as-you-go, and when you're cut loose, it was as if you never worked there. You're never mentioned again, you can't visit the building, and you probably lost most of the friends you'd made while working there. That's not just my story...that's most folks in the industry.

Sometimes the safest bet isn't the best bet. To be honest, those people - especially Gavin Spittle - are just trying to look out for their own butts instead of telling the listeners the honest truth. I don't know what they've got to lose other than their jobs or their material possessions; but they do stand to GAIN listeners, revenue, AND ratings if they would just let the cat out of the bag. This is just me, but that's the way I see it.

I wonder if we can write letters to our Senators and/or Congressmen and ask them to DO something about it...
 
henderson_s454 said:
MikeShannon914 said:
I guess the general feeling is that 'no comment' is the safest bet. If any statement by the station is given, it becomes 'official,' can be misconstrued or misunderstood no matter what they said, and perhaps even a seemingly innocent statement could get a station in legal trouble with a departing talent. Besides, let's say P&K had the morning show deal wrapped up at 93.3...do you think 105.3 is going to give P&K any free publicity? CBS is protecting THEIR OWN morning show.

I don't agree with this line of thinking, but that's about the reality of it. Radio's not going to report on happenings outside their little station or cluster (well, except for my show...see tagline below) or to do anything to help out former talent in getting a job elsewhere. It's all pay-as-you-go, and when you're cut loose, it was as if you never worked there. You're never mentioned again, you can't visit the building, and you probably lost most of the friends you'd made while working there. That's not just my story...that's most folks in the industry.

Sometimes the safest bet isn't the best bet. To be honest, those people - especially Gavin Spittle - are just trying to look out for their own butts instead of telling the listeners the honest truth. I don't know what they've got to lose other than their jobs or their material possessions; but they do stand to GAIN listeners, revenue, AND ratings if they would just let the cat out of the bag. This is just me, but that's the way I see it.

I wonder if we can write letters to our Senators and/or Congressmen and ask them to DO something about it...
They need to focus on the price of gas
 
henderson_s454 said:
MikeShannon914 said:
I guess the general feeling is that 'no comment' is the safest bet. If any statement by the station is given, it becomes 'official,' can be misconstrued or misunderstood no matter what they said, and perhaps even a seemingly innocent statement could get a station in legal trouble with a departing talent. Besides, let's say P&K had the morning show deal wrapped up at 93.3...do you think 105.3 is going to give P&K any free publicity? CBS is protecting THEIR OWN morning show.

I don't agree with this line of thinking, but that's about the reality of it. Radio's not going to report on happenings outside their little station or cluster (well, except for my show...see tagline below) or to do anything to help out former talent in getting a job elsewhere. It's all pay-as-you-go, and when you're cut loose, it was as if you never worked there. You're never mentioned again, you can't visit the building, and you probably lost most of the friends you'd made while working there. That's not just my story...that's most folks in the industry.

Sometimes the safest bet isn't the best bet. To be honest, those people - especially Gavin Spittle - are just trying to look out for their own butts instead of telling the listeners the honest truth. I don't know what they've got to lose other than their jobs or their material possessions; but they do stand to GAIN listeners, revenue, AND ratings if they would just let the cat out of the bag. This is just me, but that's the way I see it.

I wonder if we can write letters to our Senators and/or Congressmen and ask them to DO something about it...

All this CYA stuff does is piss off their loyal listeners, you know, the people who ultimately pay their bills. If Gavin still has a job next week I'll be disappointed.
 
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I wonder if we can write letters to our Senators and/or Congressmen and ask them to DO something about it...
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You ARE joking, I hope?
 
scopejock said:
Can someone who works in radio explain to me why management is so secretive whenever changes are made at a station? Why don't they just announce that P&K are no longer on 105.3 and are 'pursuing other opportunities, yada, yada, yada? Why the 'they're on vacation' and best-ofs? And when they change formats, why don't they announce it ahead of time instead of one morning you turn on the station and it's country music instead of talk?
Let's say I show up at your place of employment, and you're no longer there. What's your old boss going to say. He left teh company, he's no longer here, etc. Because if they said "we fired his a** because he was stealing from the register" or "we caught him banging the bosses wife in the stockroom", it's going to make you look bad. Which leaves your old boss open to a lawsuit.

Radio is EXACTLY the same way. If they say anything more than 'they left the company', they're open to lawsuits, unfair discharge claims, etc. Most jobs all they do anymore is confirm 'yes so and so worked here from xx/06 to xx/08".

Talk to your boss on what your companys policy is. Go ask HR what they will or won't say. And you'll see that radio isn't all that different, just more visible. But the high profile doesn't give us an exception from labor laws.

And a lot of times, the lag time between a on-air disappearence and the official announcement is because they may be trying to work out contract details. For example, if P&K's ratings were down, they might have been willing to keep them around at 1/2 or 3/4ths of their original salary. But might not be willing to contnue to pay them if the ratings don't justify it. So they take them off the air as they renegotiate, and if it doesn't work out (i.e. P&K won't take a paycut) they cut them loose and make the official annoucement.

And as for not publicizing format changes in advance- why let your competition know what you're going to do- if I publicize that I'm going to flip 105.2 to smooth jazz, but I'm not going to do it for 2 weeks, there's nothing to stop some other station from flipping to SJ before I do?

If I say I'm going to put on a hybrid of clasic rock and 80's alternative (Early KDGE), what's to stop KZPS from dropping the southern rock and replacing it with Tommy Tutone and the Cure and beating me to the punch? And now they've got the advantage of not only being on teh air first, but already exposing themselves to listeners as "The best mix of 70's classic and 80's alt rock". When I show up a coupel of weeks later calling myself "The best mx of 70's classic and 80s alt-rock'" I look like a pale imitation, a copycat.
 
little1 said:
scopejock said:
Can someone who works in radio explain to me why management is so secretive whenever changes are made at a station? Why don't they just announce that P&K are no longer on 105.3 and are 'pursuing other opportunities, yada, yada, yada? Why the 'they're on vacation' and best-ofs? And when they change formats, why don't they announce it ahead of time instead of one morning you turn on the station and it's country music instead of talk?
Let's say I show up at your place of employment, and you're no longer there. What's your old boss going to say. He left teh company, he's no longer here, etc. Because if they said "we fired his a** because he was stealing from the register" or "we caught him banging the bosses wife in the stockroom", it's going to make you look bad. Which leaves your old boss open to a lawsuit.

Radio is EXACTLY the same way. If they say anything more than 'they left the company', they're open to lawsuits, unfair discharge claims, etc. Most jobs all they do anymore is confirm 'yes so and so worked here from xx/06 to xx/08".

Talk to your boss on what your companys policy is. Go ask HR what they will or won't say. And you'll see that radio isn't all that different, just more visible. But the high profile doesn't give us an exception from labor laws.

And a lot of times, the lag time between a on-air disappearence and the official announcement is because they may be trying to work out contract details. For example, if P&K's ratings were down, they might have been willing to keep them around at 1/2 or 3/4ths of their original salary. But might not be willing to contnue to pay them if the ratings don't justify it. So they take them off the air as they renegotiate, and if it doesn't work out (i.e. P&K won't take a paycut) they cut them loose and make the official annoucement.

And as for not publicizing format changes in advance- why let your competition know what you're going to do- if I publicize that I'm going to flip 105.2 to smooth jazz, but I'm not going to do it for 2 weeks, there's nothing to stop some other station from flipping to SJ before I do?

If I say I'm going to put on a hybrid of clasic rock and 80's alternative (Early KDGE), what's to stop KZPS from dropping the southern rock and replacing it with Tommy Tutone and the Cure and beating me to the punch? And now they've got the advantage of not only being on teh air first, but already exposing themselves to listeners as "The best mix of 70's classic and 80's alt rock". When I show up a coupel of weeks later calling myself "The best mx of 70's classic and 80s alt-rock'" I look like a pale imitation, a copycat.

OK, I get it. Thanks little1.
 
Good answer. of course my favorite would be "If we pre-announce the new format, that takes all the fun out of it". ;D
 
Also, do you really want to entrust your signal to someone who knows they'll be out of work and that if they say anything crude, FCC fines won't apply to the jock, only to the station?
 
Can someone who works in radio explain to me why management is so secretive whenever changes are made at a station?

Because radio management typically has an extremely overblown perception of the importance of its "secrets." Most of the people in the business who might want to know find out through the incestuous local grapevine -- long before any official announcement. And those who don't want to know obviously don't care. And for those who aren't in the loop, but who want to know: Well, the situation is usually transparent enough to figure out without the benefit of inside info.
 
Nothing to do with the thread...tried to reply privately but wasn't allowed. (???)

EbolaMonkey-I'm a pathologist/microbiologist...just wanted to tell you that your username made me laugh until my stomach cramped javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);
 
scopejock said:
Nothing to do with the thread...tried to reply privately but wasn't allowed. (???)

EbolaMonkey-I'm a pathologist/microbiologist...just wanted to tell you that your username made me laugh until my stomach cramped javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);

Javascript:void(0); stomach cramps are the WORST. :(
 
EbolaMonkey-I'm a pathologist/microbiologist...just wanted to tell you that your username made me laugh until my stomach cramped

;D

I liked the Hot Zone.
 
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