Correction:
None of the REAL schools is teaching radio.
Do any teach English?
None of the REAL schools is teaching radio.
Do any teach English?
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Let's be real. Few of us got into radio because we wanted to do sales. Sell cars. Sell homes. Or,
sell radio. None of these are going to be good this year. But radio sales jobs are the only radio
jobs open anymore.
I know some really good jocks who were on big stations in Indianapolis and Louisville. Many of
them would be willing to relocate for $8 an hour because they love radio.
Some of you seem to be writing from the Magical Land Of OZ. You are really on the deck of the Titanic.
The deck chairs need rearranged. The silver needs polished in the dining room. Yes, some of us are duty bound to go down with the ship.
sell radio. None of these are going to be good this year. But radio sales jobs are the only radio
jobs open anymore.
I know some really good jocks who were on big stations in Indianapolis and Louisville. Many of
them would be willing to relocate for $8 an hour because they love radio.
Some of you seem to be writing from the Magical Land Of OZ. You are really on the deck of the Titanic.
The deck chairs need rearranged. The silver needs polished in the dining room. Yes, some of us are duty bound to go down with the ship.
Except the most recent CC layoffs were mostly of sales people. Other media companies have been laying off sales staff.
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badhabit
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OK, I'll take the obvious answer. Why stay in radio? Because right now, no one else is hiring! ;D
Ask me after the economy picks up, and I'll tell you it's for the love of the game. That's why we were all in radio before the economy turned to crap, despite the drawbacks. But right now, it's for food and shelter.
Ask me after the economy picks up, and I'll tell you it's for the love of the game. That's why we were all in radio before the economy turned to crap, despite the drawbacks. But right now, it's for food and shelter.
RadioBroadcaster said:
Yes, as a matter of fact.
This is actually the proper subject/verb agreement.
"None" = "not one" = singular.
The phrase "of the REAL schools" is a prepositional phrase and does apply to the verb.
"Is" is the appropriate linking verb.
You've been saying it wrong for so long, you probably don't even realize it.
You're probably one of those people who says "between you and I" and thinks that's correct, too.
Because I went to a real school, I know that.
N_D_Radioguy said:
N_D, you've succeeded in sending this thread off in a very different direction. I teach at one of America's largest universities, and from year to year our College of Communications is either the largest or second largest in the nation (bigger than many Division I universities--all by itself)--and, yes, we still teach radio--as do nearly all major colleges and universities. In today's parlance the major is usually called "media" or "telecommunications," but radio continues to be a major component.
Why? Because radio continues to be one of the nation's--and the world's--primary media industries. Not just from an employment standpoint, but also from the perspective of the user--the listener. Radio is huge. Still.
And, at the risk of being redundant, that is ultimately the answer to the question "Why stay in radio?"
Try teaching this: if someone asks "what is radio?", answer honestly: "An archaic appliance without character or personality that makes noise."
BostonRandy said:
I'm sorry you didn't get to work with one of the best mentors I ever had who reminded me over and over:
"A device that can deliver the voice of a human being into the ear of another human being will always be timely."
BostonRandy: Don't confuse the device with the boneheads who don't seem to understand what a marvelous device has been entrusted to their care. Pray for some caretakers with some enlightenment.
N_D_Radioguy said:
While I respect your standpoint and understand that you are educated, it might surprise you to find out that others could be too. Not to mention, education stretches beyond the classroom. I apologize, as my jovial response was not taken as such. The AskOxford.com website had an interesting take on our discussion.
"USAGE - Some traditionalists maintain that none can only take a singular verb (as in none of them is coming tonight rather than none of them are coming tonight). However, none is descended from Old English nan meaning ‘not one’, and has been used for around a thousand years with either a singular or a plural verb, depending on the context and the emphasis needed."
Maybe you're a traditionalist with a degree from a REAL school, while some of us went to community colleges or vocational schools. Or maybe some of us didn't receive a post-high school education and simply entered the industry. There are many roads to reach the same destination. Pissing match is over.
RadioBroadcaster said:
It's always the guy losing who declares the match over.
N_D_Radioguy said:
ND, what planet are you living on? I have two universities within driving distance of my home that teach radio broadcasting. And despite the shrinking job market in music radio, they still continue to teach it and take these students' money.
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nitejock2008
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Well, alot of us have no other skills. That's why we all need something to fall back on, myself included..Hell, if I lost my job today, I dont know what I would do. Maybe sales? I dont know...I do know that I am looking into other career possibilities. With that said, the company I work for is doing ok, its a small company and my cluster here actually hit budget in January of 09, so we are doing good here. As far as pay is concerned, I am doing alright, thanks to Remotes and Endorsements..Hey I made almost $50,000 in market #204, not a huge amount, but enough to pay my bills, put some away and save, and of course insurance...
Top 10 Reasons To Stay in Radio
10) Really wanted to be a Social Worker and in Radio I get to work with people who are mentally unstable without the Social Worker Degree thingy.
9) Groupies - wait - that's the "Not to Stay in Radio List".
8) The Drama and Entertainment. This isn't really a job.
Anyone ever been shot at and lived in a factory? WGBF 1986. Why you people all on the floor, is this some wierd thing. And they kept saying "look at the window, look at the window." Bullet hole. Night before former employee showed up drunk and got chased out by a police dog, next night bullet hole.
7) Darnit If I have to work this cheap it's a lot better than "Welcome to Wal-Mart do you want a sticker?" Same benefits for those with no insurance too.
6) I get to tell people what I really think in the guise of asking questions. Do you think the Carmel school superintendant should be ousted because he xxx xx xxxxxx xx xxx xxxxxx? Wait, he was.
5) Free Food. Thanks Bernice. RIP.
4) If I never grow up what Career Field can I pursue? If i grow up late in life what career field can I pursue? If I have a degree and want to make a difference what career field can I pursue?
3) Have a face for radio.
2) Couldn't join the Army. Flat Feet, etc.
1) The people we meet, the things we get to experience, the life changing times and events, and the satisfaction of a job well done. Listen to "The Broadcaster's Prayer on WSLM tonight."
10) Really wanted to be a Social Worker and in Radio I get to work with people who are mentally unstable without the Social Worker Degree thingy.
9) Groupies - wait - that's the "Not to Stay in Radio List".
8) The Drama and Entertainment. This isn't really a job.
Anyone ever been shot at and lived in a factory? WGBF 1986. Why you people all on the floor, is this some wierd thing. And they kept saying "look at the window, look at the window." Bullet hole. Night before former employee showed up drunk and got chased out by a police dog, next night bullet hole.
7) Darnit If I have to work this cheap it's a lot better than "Welcome to Wal-Mart do you want a sticker?" Same benefits for those with no insurance too.
6) I get to tell people what I really think in the guise of asking questions. Do you think the Carmel school superintendant should be ousted because he xxx xx xxxxxx xx xxx xxxxxx? Wait, he was.
5) Free Food. Thanks Bernice. RIP.
4) If I never grow up what Career Field can I pursue? If i grow up late in life what career field can I pursue? If I have a degree and want to make a difference what career field can I pursue?
3) Have a face for radio.
2) Couldn't join the Army. Flat Feet, etc.
1) The people we meet, the things we get to experience, the life changing times and events, and the satisfaction of a job well done. Listen to "The Broadcaster's Prayer on WSLM tonight."
WXXX Pre Cumulus. Ever been in a room where 50 people get canned?
WXXX Ever see a knife fight at a staton remote?
WXXX Ever see a naked station owner at the radio station?
WKDQ. What is a football bat and why does the coach have such a fascination.
WENS. Do you know 5 people who used the couch in Jeff's office for 'courtin"? Blue Love seat. Why YES It WAS a Love Seat.
WTLC. What Do the call letters really stand for?
WGBF Ever see Sandman stop the station van at a sleazy apartment and pick up a bag of oregano looking substance?
WIKY Did the station you worked at ever have a guy paid to do er help the owner out?
WVJS Did your General Manager have a Polenesian houseboy? RIP
WVJS. Ever have the General manager "really like you?" See Previous. RIP, RW, SMF
WSTO Ever get a hotline from the female station owner because ABC news ran a live network tampon ad on the automated station and she expected you to mute it? You were on the other station which was live.
WVJS. Ever get a call from the onwer who asked you play only soft music because she was scared?
Bill Shirk. Ever get to set your boss on fire with a gas covered rope while he was in a straight jacket with a python wrapped around him?
WJCF. Ever do a remote from a spay and nueter clinic?
WCSI. Ever get put in jail because you talked about the Police Information Officer?
WAZY. Ever have a local church declare you Satan just because you talked about Watermelons and Cateloupes?
WAZY. Will I go to Hell because I didn't know we celebrated Lent and not lint, like in a bellybutton, and asked listeners to tell me about the holiday?
WCSI. Ever get called on the carpet because somebody else said something on the air?
WLW Ever get complaint letters from 48 states?
WIKY. Ever have the Manager locked out of his house because his wife caught him with his girlfriend?
WIRE. Ever have the mayor of Lebanon want your head because of something you said about his wife? She divorced him after a "conference" with staff.
WIKY. Ever see a white substance in the General manager's car and ask someone else what it was to a somewhat shocked response?
WGBF. Ever get a call from a listener who complained the morning man left her tied to her bed?
WAMW. Ever have the station manager run extra political ads for his campaign?
WFMW. Ever get a call from Staff that Odd Bob was so stressed he was hospitalized - he was peein blood?
WLW. Ever get complaint letters from 48 States and have the boss ask why it wasn't 50?
WLW. Ever get to help cancel the lease to East 4th St because Lindner heard what you said on the air and expected someone to blow up the building his bank was in?
WHHH. Ever go out on the pylon of the Bank One building because the tower guy showed up drunk?
WXXX. Ever pee in someone's coffee? Not that I have mind you but you won't ever ask me to get you a cup of coffee anymore now will you?
WENS. Get a call on the hotline from a girlfriend that one of the jocks was with her and her friend and he stopped breathing. "Call an ambulance." he didn't make it. RIP TM
WYNG. Ever puke in a plane on the air during a barrel roll?
WAZY. Ever get fired on the air?
WLW. Ever moon Jim Scott?
WTVW. Your fly is open. (After the live shot.)
WNIN Ever get asked to take off the Barney costume during a telethon appearance?
WNAP. Did Howard Stern ever call you on his show and call you a Son of A Bixxx?
WYNG. Did Jeff Foxworthy ever spill coffee on you?
WXXX. ever give away a trip to Nashville to listener then have him call from nashville and complain a station jock tried to force him to do something and he wouldn't so jock woke him up naked in the middle of the night and started beating him with a belt?
WYER. Ever wonder why the Sports Guy always had a local high school boy helping him late nights and weekends? Think he got an award.
WYNG. Ever get a protection order because you secretly gave subliminal personal messages about someone on the radio and the phone company had traced phone calls to your radio name home account?
WENS. Ever answer the phones after Ron Jordan asked who had the most elastic skin in the Bible then declared as it is written "he tied his Axx to a tree and walked 40 miles..."
WJPS. Did you ever have to make sure the station door was ALWAYS LOCKED and get reminded WE NEVER OPEN THE DOOR ESPECIALLY FOR POLICE WITH COURT PAPERS?
WYNG. When the manager mistakenly placed you in charge while he was gone did you ever call all the staff in one at a time with a stern voice and tell them "we need to talk..."
WNAP. Ever get hypnotized by the Amazing Kreskin?
WXX. Ever dig through the WKDQ dumpster?
WKRP. I was the station Engineer.
WXXX. Ever have a jock try to make it with the station secretary?
WXXX Ever see a knife fight at a staton remote?
WXXX Ever see a naked station owner at the radio station?
WKDQ. What is a football bat and why does the coach have such a fascination.
WENS. Do you know 5 people who used the couch in Jeff's office for 'courtin"? Blue Love seat. Why YES It WAS a Love Seat.
WTLC. What Do the call letters really stand for?
WGBF Ever see Sandman stop the station van at a sleazy apartment and pick up a bag of oregano looking substance?
WIKY Did the station you worked at ever have a guy paid to do er help the owner out?
WVJS Did your General Manager have a Polenesian houseboy? RIP
WVJS. Ever have the General manager "really like you?" See Previous. RIP, RW, SMF
WSTO Ever get a hotline from the female station owner because ABC news ran a live network tampon ad on the automated station and she expected you to mute it? You were on the other station which was live.
WVJS. Ever get a call from the onwer who asked you play only soft music because she was scared?
Bill Shirk. Ever get to set your boss on fire with a gas covered rope while he was in a straight jacket with a python wrapped around him?
WJCF. Ever do a remote from a spay and nueter clinic?
WCSI. Ever get put in jail because you talked about the Police Information Officer?
WAZY. Ever have a local church declare you Satan just because you talked about Watermelons and Cateloupes?
WAZY. Will I go to Hell because I didn't know we celebrated Lent and not lint, like in a bellybutton, and asked listeners to tell me about the holiday?
WCSI. Ever get called on the carpet because somebody else said something on the air?
WLW Ever get complaint letters from 48 states?
WIKY. Ever have the Manager locked out of his house because his wife caught him with his girlfriend?
WIRE. Ever have the mayor of Lebanon want your head because of something you said about his wife? She divorced him after a "conference" with staff.
WIKY. Ever see a white substance in the General manager's car and ask someone else what it was to a somewhat shocked response?
WGBF. Ever get a call from a listener who complained the morning man left her tied to her bed?
WAMW. Ever have the station manager run extra political ads for his campaign?
WFMW. Ever get a call from Staff that Odd Bob was so stressed he was hospitalized - he was peein blood?
WLW. Ever get complaint letters from 48 States and have the boss ask why it wasn't 50?
WLW. Ever get to help cancel the lease to East 4th St because Lindner heard what you said on the air and expected someone to blow up the building his bank was in?
WHHH. Ever go out on the pylon of the Bank One building because the tower guy showed up drunk?
WXXX. Ever pee in someone's coffee? Not that I have mind you but you won't ever ask me to get you a cup of coffee anymore now will you?
WENS. Get a call on the hotline from a girlfriend that one of the jocks was with her and her friend and he stopped breathing. "Call an ambulance." he didn't make it. RIP TM
WYNG. Ever puke in a plane on the air during a barrel roll?
WAZY. Ever get fired on the air?
WLW. Ever moon Jim Scott?
WTVW. Your fly is open. (After the live shot.)
WNIN Ever get asked to take off the Barney costume during a telethon appearance?
WNAP. Did Howard Stern ever call you on his show and call you a Son of A Bixxx?
WYNG. Did Jeff Foxworthy ever spill coffee on you?
WXXX. ever give away a trip to Nashville to listener then have him call from nashville and complain a station jock tried to force him to do something and he wouldn't so jock woke him up naked in the middle of the night and started beating him with a belt?
WYER. Ever wonder why the Sports Guy always had a local high school boy helping him late nights and weekends? Think he got an award.
WYNG. Ever get a protection order because you secretly gave subliminal personal messages about someone on the radio and the phone company had traced phone calls to your radio name home account?
WENS. Ever answer the phones after Ron Jordan asked who had the most elastic skin in the Bible then declared as it is written "he tied his Axx to a tree and walked 40 miles..."
WJPS. Did you ever have to make sure the station door was ALWAYS LOCKED and get reminded WE NEVER OPEN THE DOOR ESPECIALLY FOR POLICE WITH COURT PAPERS?
WYNG. When the manager mistakenly placed you in charge while he was gone did you ever call all the staff in one at a time with a stern voice and tell them "we need to talk..."
WNAP. Ever get hypnotized by the Amazing Kreskin?
WXX. Ever dig through the WKDQ dumpster?
WKRP. I was the station Engineer.
WXXX. Ever have a jock try to make it with the station secretary?
I’m going to “shock the room” and advise the yutes [not the vets] to “jump in the pool – the water’s a bit cold, but your body will adjust and you’ll later enjoy the swim”. I began my career in radio during the Carter administration – a TWENTY-PERCENT prime rate, double-digit unemployment, and all the other economic woes to boot. I got my feet wet, survived, and later prospered. History has this knack for repeating itself... YOU may become the next beneficiary of this time-tested paradigm.
Radio broadcasting is BROKEN [BADLY] – but someone HAS to fix it... ARE YOU UP TO THE CHALLENGE? I may "pass" on this industry, but maybe YOU can bring a solution to the table! “Corporate radio” stocks are in the tank-below-the-tank... These 45-million $ FM sticks have abandoned “asset” classification and become a technical liability... That’s “corporate rhetoric” for “worthless”—trust me, it’s that bad. Even “Mr. Jeff” can no-longer romance his hometown Indianapolis bird-cage liner with proclamations that “HD i-tagging” will produce turnaround revenues from the Apple iTunes store.
VERY SIMPLY, five owners need to turn to fifty... Business as usual circa 1985... The post-Telcomm corporate radio menagerie has failed—miserably. NO competent graduate of a “Biz 101” class could make a reasonable dispute of this fundamental “burp”... BTW, burps occur spontaneously and without premonition or “spin”... Maybe our most honest bodily function
Radio broadcasting is BROKEN [BADLY] – but someone HAS to fix it... ARE YOU UP TO THE CHALLENGE? I may "pass" on this industry, but maybe YOU can bring a solution to the table! “Corporate radio” stocks are in the tank-below-the-tank... These 45-million $ FM sticks have abandoned “asset” classification and become a technical liability... That’s “corporate rhetoric” for “worthless”—trust me, it’s that bad. Even “Mr. Jeff” can no-longer romance his hometown Indianapolis bird-cage liner with proclamations that “HD i-tagging” will produce turnaround revenues from the Apple iTunes store.
VERY SIMPLY, five owners need to turn to fifty... Business as usual circa 1985... The post-Telcomm corporate radio menagerie has failed—miserably. NO competent graduate of a “Biz 101” class could make a reasonable dispute of this fundamental “burp”... BTW, burps occur spontaneously and without premonition or “spin”... Maybe our most honest bodily function
Dang, Chief Engineer, your creativity was really flowing on those two posts early today. Must have been a late, late night. When you wake up after awhile, I'm predicting you will be nursing one rought headache. ;D
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