WIBG SOUNDS GREAT + GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME.

[joshzz]

We have been having a conversation about WIBG regarding it's sound etc.

Personally, I have been very impressed with what's happening at WIBG. The new owner took an underperforming station that was buried deep in Cape May County and was able to double it's power, move it to the year round market of Atlantic County and bring continuity to the music format... It has the potential to reach more people than ever and grow its base.

I expect big positive changes to continue to take place as it grows in its new home.

josh

 

[Radio411]

Josh...

Your check is in the mail...

Next mission, where should we put the billboards??

:

 

[MickeyD]

ls

We have been having a conversation about WIBG regarding it's sound etc.

Personally, I have been very impressed with what's happening at WIBG. The new owner took an underperforming station that was buried deep in Cape May County and was able to double it's power, move it to the year round market of Atlantic County and bring continuity to the music format... It has the potential to reach more people than ever and grow its base.

I expect big positive changes to continue to take place as it grows in its new home.

josh

What effect does doubling the power have? To double the range you have to quadruple the power. Makes it sound better and penetrate walls in homes and business's better locally.

 

[MikeF]

What effect does doubling the power have? To double the range you have to quadruple the power.

The protected service contour of a 3 KW Class A is a radius of 15 miles. For a 6 KW Class A it is 17.6 miles, a 17% gain. The power would have to be increased to 75 KW !! , a 25-fold increase, to double the radius to 30 miles. Power is not nearly as important as you might think to FM coverage; height and freedom from interference are much more important.

The formulas for this are on the FCC's website,

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/curves.html

Mike

 

[joshzz]

Still all in all it's going to result in a greater population reach (along with the antenna move) , greater penetration into buildings and more overall viable signal.

WIBG it's great having them back! josh

 

[Zackster]

WIBG it's great having them back! josh

Please ... the station that has the WIBG call letters has nothing to do with
the original station, sounds nothing like it, and sounds like crap.

WIBG is not "back" There is just someone using hacked up pirated versions of
the original jingles, some overplayed and boring aircheck clips, with bad audio,
old geezer jocks who don't know when to shut up, and too many unknown songs.

Sad.

 

[joshzz]

Zackster, I strongly disagree and believe WIBG in in for a great ride to the top of the ratings chart. 8)

 

[bigtom101]

Zackster, I strongly disagree and believe WIBG in in for a great ride to the top of the ratings chart. 8)

If it pulls a 2 share 12+ in the next AC book, I'll eat my hat. The concept is great, but for the most part the execution leaves me wanting. The music mix is all over the road, the imaging is weak, the audio quality waivers from good to "holy crap that MP3 is grabage," and aside from Bob Charger, Dave the Rave, and Rick Rock, the jocks could use some work.

Wibbage had a sound, a feel, a texture. What's on 94.3 isn't Wibbage - it COULD be, but it isn't. WMID, Kool, and WVLT all sound more focused and tighter than Wibbage.

Again, the idea is terrific. But it needs allot of work to get to where I could see it kicking ass and taking names.

 

[joshzz]

HI BIG TOM,

I think within a reasonable time the station will be what you;re looking for.

I like Kool also, but WVLT is an absolutely all over the place with no ratings whatsoever. I think the general manager is a great guy but he would do well to remove all the Doo Wop Jocks and build the station around Fleetwood and Burke (currently nights).

WVLT has the potential for nice ratings in Philly and AC but won't get there unless the changes I suggest are made. If he brought back Sloan as Station Manager - they would get there fast.

 

[bigtom101]

HI BIG TOM,

I think within a reasonable time the station will be what you;re looking for.

Problem is that first impressions mean allot - and the first impression for allot of people I'll wager was "This isnt the Wibbage I remember"! Ever listen to KB 1520 or 1530 WSAI when they revived their top 40 image? They had the classic jingle packages (and in WSAI's case the had one resung), they had great jocks, and they hit the ground running.

I'm listening to Wibbage now online, and the audio sounds horribly distorted and garbled (almost like something is out of phase).

EDIT: Just heard the DJ talking about how the Kingsmen "Louie, Louie" came out in 1964. It came out in 63.

I hope it does get better - best of luck to everyone involved.

 

[MickeyD]

What effect does doubling the power have? To double the range you have to quadruple the power.

The protected service contour of a 3 KW Class A is a radius of 15 miles. For a 6 KW Class A it is 17.6 miles, a 17% gain. The power would have to be increased to 75 KW !! , a 25-fold increase, to double the radius to 30 miles. Power is not nearly as important as you might think to FM coverage; height and freedom from interference are much more important.

The formulas for this are on the FCC's website,

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/curves.html

Mike

The way radio stations are jammed together today more power simply insures that you cover your own service area without interference. Give me a frequency like 87.9 and just a KW it would be beautiful maaan!

 

[qtpieislit]

Ever listen to KB 1520 or 1530 WSAI when they revived their top 40 image? They had the classic jingle packages (and in WSAI's case the had one resung), they had great jocks, and they hit the ground running.

1530/WSAI was incredibly well done. I know who put that together. It was a remarkably impressive production. With a monster signal.

KB 1520 was well done as well. Another monster signal.

I recall they were both on the air around the same time, until they moved WSAI back to 1360. It was just wild moving the dial a hair and picking up two heritage stations that were rockin'.

Both were remarkably authentic programming productions.

 

[sethjamz]

Wow, Josh I have to agree...it sounds like you work there or own the place. There are other ways to promote a station, lol.
Seriously, the station is not anything to write home about. The guy (Rick Rock) in the midday and according to the web site is the PD,
is very weak. The concept may have been to bring an iconic heritage station back to life but I think at this point it is not happening.

 

[bossjock 56]

I don't think it was ever the intention of the owners of WIBBAGE FM to recreate the old WIBG. There were several versions of WIBG. There was the the vintage Good Guy area with all the legends.....Hi Lit, Joe Niagara and the crew. The Paul Drew/Drake era, which was short lived. The "Truth Radio" era with Joey Reynolds and Frank Kingston Smith in the early 70's...when they dumped all the jingles for awhile...then went with the "where you're friends are" package. WIBG sounded different during all these periods. The new WIBG-FM just wants to create that fun feeling we all used to get by listening to Top 40 radio during these eras. I say...let's sit back and enjoy it. To Rick B. and the gang at WIBBAGE FM....THANK YOU!!

 

[Up_N_Down_The_Dial]

We have been having a conversation about WIBG regarding it's sound etc.

Personally, I have been very impressed with what's happening at WIBG. The new owner took an underperforming station that was buried deep in Cape May County and was able to double it's power, move it to the year round market of Atlantic County and bring continuity to the music format... It has the potential to reach more people than ever and grow its base.

I expect big positive changes to continue to take place as it grows in its new home.

josh

Josh... you can start a new thread all you want... but the fact remains that WIBG sounds like CRAP (like I said in my last thread)... as far as the power it still comes in like crap in Atlantic City.. have you driven the signal? It's so obvious that you have some involvement with that station... so please... spare us all... read the posts... all the people here are telling you that the station is not good... you can argue all you want, but the fact remains... WIBG SOUNDS LIKE CRAP! http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=159416.0

 

[joshzz]

I can honestly state that I am not employed nor do I own any part of the WIBG corporation but would love to. josh

 

[sethjamz]

I don't think it was ever the intention of the owners of WIBBAGE FM to recreate the old WIBG. There were several versions of WIBG. There was the the vintage Good Guy area with all the legends.....Hi Lit, Joe Niagara and the crew. The Paul Drew/Drake era, which was short lived. The "Truth Radio" era with Joey Reynolds and Frank Kingston Smith in the early 70's...when they dumped all the jingles for awhile...then went with the "where you're friends are" package. WIBG sounded different during all these periods. The new WIBG-FM just wants to create that fun feeling we all used to get by listening to Top 40 radio during these eras. I say...let's sit back and enjoy it. To Rick B. and the gang at WIBBAGE FM....THANK YOU!!

BossJock...nice screen name, man I loved that station! Did you work there?
Prize patrol, Zinnman Furs contests! That was a station! Sorry, I got off the subject, anyway, you mentioned "The Good Guys" era of WIBG, well the new Wibbage is using that and other WIBG imaging. So I respectively disagree, I think they are trying to recreate the old WIBG. Hey don't get me wrong, I love the music but I think by now they should have a better grip on imaging and a total program package (including web site) which is awful. They are still all over the board. I do hope they get it together because like i said, I love the music of that era. Kool 98 used to play a little of that music but they have went down hill in that area. If WIBG gets their act together, they could possibly give Kool a run for "the" money (and ratings).

 

[joshzz]

HI Sethjamz and other posters,

What specific changes do you feel need to be made for WIBG to become the #1 Oldies Hit Music Station at the shore. Do you think they should adjust their format to sound more like WOGL, the oldies King in Philadelphia or should they take a softer approach and become the Northeast's, WDUV, the #1 Soft Oldies Station in Tampa, FL? josh

 

[sethjamz]

Okay for giggles, let's play GM....
First (no offense to Mr. Rock) Hire a real PD who know's how to put a nice clock together and do imaging.
Second get a good web & promotions person.
Now in the economy we live in and with the way stations use folks who wear 3 or 4 hats they would have to use
a person who can do all of the above. Good luck.

 

[Up_N_Down_The_Dial]

Okay for giggles, let's play GM....
First (no offense to Mr. Rock) Hire a real PD who know's how to put a nice clock together and do imaging.
Second get a good web & promotions person.
Now in the economy we live in and with the way stations use folks who wear 3 or 4 hats they would have to use
a person who can do all of the above. Good luck.

Josh... I have to agree with sethjamz... Radio is a science... when it's done right, you hardly know that any effort is being put into it... but when it's done wrong it sounds like 94.3... This isn't something you hash out on a message board for people who follow radio... it's something that is done in the back rooms with a lot of thought and planning... I can tell by listening to 94.3 that there is really no plan in place... it's like this...

"Hey wouldn't it be cool to get a bunch of clips from the old WIBG in Philly and play them in between songs".. then BAM it's done with no thought as to rotation, or quality

"Hey, let's dig up a bunch of songs that were not spun 200x per week back then... for the oh wow factor"... then BAM... they're on the air with no real thought to a clock or how often that particular category should spin...

When you listen to the other "oldies / classic hits" stations down there you can tell there's a great deal of thought put into every aspect of the on-air product... this is NOT by mistake... and to the average listener it just sounds like radio... they would not be able to put their finger on why it sounds good, or why they like it... they just do, and THAT'S the science!