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[rapking]

WILD-AM 1090 Al Sharpton http://www.nypost.com/seven/06152008/news/regionalnews/rev__al_soaks_up_boycott_bucks_115554.htm

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

Now I see Sharpton (to call him "Reverend" is to denigrate those who have actually earned the title) is resorting to extortion. He's got himself a nice little protection racket ("pay up or we'll boycott you').

Sharpton is interested in exactly three things: he, him and himself. Too bad those in the A-A community can't see when they're being hoodwinked by a charlatan.

 

[DG02816]

Never thought I'd see the day when this type of legal extortion would become the norm. Sorry to say, but the Black community needs better leaders than the likes of Sharpton....

 

[AckDX]

I never liked Sharpton. I think he is a racist, and is a horrible leader for the black community.

 

[raccoonradio]

Kenneth Timmerman's book Shakedown accuses the Rev Jesse Jackson of the same thing

 

[MarcB]

The also each have at least 1/2 dozen illigetimate children each.

 

[TSBench]

Kenneth Timmerman's book Shakedown accuses the Rev Jesse Jackson of the same thing

Jesse has never met an injustice that couldn't be rectified by a certified check made out to Rainbow/PUSH.

Regards,
TSB

 

[mescutia]

I was rather amused by the article's description of Jackson as a "rival" of Sharpton's.

 

[Keith321]

...to call him "Reverend" is to denigrate those who have actually earned the title

Do you have any reason to believe he did not earn the title?

Kenneth Timmerman's book Shakedown accuses the Rev Jesse Jackson of the same thing

Jesse has never met an injustice that couldn't be rectified by a certified check made out to Rainbow/PUSH.

I seem to recall a boycott of Miller Beer organized by Rainbow/Push.

It all seemed to get rectified once one of Jesse Jackson's son's got a Miller distributorship.

I've heard from people in and around Memphis that the decendents of Martin Luther King have made a cottage industry of claiming racism against a company/organization...which would all go away once a member of the King family would get appointed to a 6 figure position on the board of said company.

Many companies in Tennessee have done pre-emptive strikes, by installing a King family member on their board, so they would be immune from any charges of racism. ("How can you accuse us of racism? We have the 3rd cousin thrice removed of Martin Luther King's wife's half-brother on the board!")

 

[max88]

what does this have to do with WILD-AM?

 

[rapking]

what does this have to do with WILD-AM?

Al Sharpton Show is On WILD-AM 1090 .

 

[Finn]

Now I see Sharpton (to call him "Reverend" is to denigrate those who have actually earned the title) is resorting to extortion. He's got himself a nice little protection racket ("pay up or we'll boycott you').

Sharpton is interested in exactly three things: he, him and himself. Too bad those in the A-A community can't see when they're being hoodwinked by a charlatan.

Re: 'earned the title' - having grown up in a religious household that believed in a literal translation of the Bible (which was switched from King James to Revised Standard Version), I am curious to know what credential, in your opinion, does one need to preach that the world is 5,000 years old? The ministers I grew up with had gone to seminary where they dabbled in Hebrew and Greek, mid-east history, but they still didn't really understand the scientific process. Oh, and they thought Jews killed Jesus. Anybody know what age Al would give to Mother Earth?

Re: 'resorting to extortion' - wow. a boycott. gee, I thought extortion applied to threats about legs being broken, etc. Isn't a boycott a free speech issue? Kinda wimpy, folks.

Re: 'charlatan' - whatever. all i know is, at the OK corral showdown at the R&R Talk Radio Seminar, Stephanie Miller and Al Sharpton were by far the funniest and most entertaining, distantly followed by G Gordon Liddy, who closed it out with a great anecdote involving Presidents that no one could possibly match (and that I can't remember at the moment).

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Conventions/TRS2008/highlights/highlights.asp

 

[Keith321]

Now I see Sharpton (to call him "Reverend" is to denigrate those who have actually earned the title)...

Re: 'earned the title' - having grown up in a religious household that believed in a literal translation of the Bible (which was switched from King James to Revised Standard Version), I am curious to know what credential, in your opinion, does one need to preach that the world is 5,000 years old?

Well to "preach" and spread the message you don't think you need any credentials.

But to call yourself "reverend" as a title, I would think you would need some completion of some generally accepted* seminary or Bible college? ...or a divinity degree?


(*I know there are fly-by-night mail order house that will give you a degree in anything.)


I don't know whether or not Sharpton has completed seminary or theological training. "Dumber than a box of Hair" seems to think he does not.

 

[Finn]

Keith, my point is that many of the Reverends out there preaching that the earth is 5,000 years old went to college (aka seminaries), studied Greek, Hebrew, and even a little Aramaic (a la Mel Gibson in his little flick), got their little degrees, and they still do not understand the basic principles of the Enlightenment, upon which our country was founded. When it comes to religion, I just don't see how a degree makes a whit of difference. The 'believers' decide who their leaders are by voting with their feet (or ears).

And, I would have thought this crowd, more than any other, would be skeptical of the notion that a credential is a requirement for respect. I have read many discussions about whether it is worth going to broadcasting school, whether a Harvard degree means someone is smahter than anyone else, etc., etc.

(Incidently, the more educated people are, the more likely they are to be skeptical of supernatural beliefs, unless they only study the the religious texts, a la some kind of seminary/madrassa).

 

[Keith321]

Keith, my point is that many of the Reverends out there preaching that the earth is 5,000 years old went to college (aka seminaries), studied Greek, Hebrew, and even a little Aramaic (a la Mel Gibson in his little flick), got their little degrees, and they still do not understand the basic principles of the Enlightenment, upon which our country was founded.

The "Principles of the Enlightenment" that our country was founded?

I'll leave that comment alone, only to say there are all kinds of seminaries/colleges.

Some (maybe the one's you were exposed to) are/were literalists' others not. Some are extremely righty..some extremely lefty.

(Incidently, the more educated people are, the more likely they are to be skeptical of supernatural beliefs..)

Like the pharisees?

Back on topic....If he has a degree he can claim credit for that degree...and the title it bestows.

It goes without saying that a degree it doesn't mean the person deserves respect.

Some people are Dr's. Some are respected, some are not.

But if you "earned the title", then you may use it.

 

[Finn]

Back on topic....If he has a degree he can claim credit for that degree...and the title it bestows.

It goes without saying that a degree it doesn't mean the person deserves respect.

Some people are Dr's. Some are respected, some are not.

But if you "earned the title", then you may use it.

Well, I've googled a bit and so far there is no mention of a degree. It's a title of respect, which in this country means if you shop yourself as a Christian minister, you automatically get at a minimum the benefit of the doubt.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reverend

http://www.answers.com/topic/reverend

http://www.yourdictionary.com/reverend

http://dictionary.die.net/reverend

On the other hand, whether or not you think Big Al is worthy of the respect is another matter. However, that he is entertaining and compelling is certain. Just look at all the people who weighed in on this issue.

 

[johnster]

http://www.nationalactionnetwork.net/html/about_us.html

He was born on October 3, 1954, in Brooklyn, New York, and began his ministry at the tender age of four. The same year, he preached his first sermon at Washington Temple Church of God & Christ in Brooklyn. Five years later, the Washington Temple Church’s legendary Bishop F. D. Washington licensed his protégé to be a minister in his denomination. Sharpton’s civil-rights career began almost as early. At age 13, Reverends Jesse Jackson and William Jones appointed Sharpton Youth Director of New York’s SCLC Operation Breadbasket—an organization founded by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

At 16, Sharpton founded the National Youth Movement Inc. which organized young people around the country to push for increased voter registration, cultural awareness and job training programs. In 1991, Sharpton founded the National Action Network, a broad based progressive civil rights organization which he still heads today. From 1994 to 1998, while still serving as the head of NAN, Reverend Sharpton also served as Director of the Ministers Division for the National Rainbow Push Coalition under Reverend Jesse Jackson. Upon the death of Bishop Washington in the late 1980s, Reverend Sharpton became a Baptist, and, in 1994, he was re-baptized by Reverend William Jones as a member of the Bethany Baptist Church. Reverend Sharpton was educated in New York City public schools and attended Brooklyn College. He was later presented with an honorary degree from A.P. Clay Bible College.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Personal_and_religious_life

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

I am curious to know what credential, in your opinion, does one need to preach that the world is 5,000 years old?

The only credential he needs is the ability to practice what he preaches...a credential he lacks. He is a proven liar (remember that little inconvenience called the Ten Commandments, particularly the one about "bearing false witness," and the Tawana Brawley/Stephen Pagones affair...you know, the one he never apologized for after ruining a man's life based on Brawley's lies which were prompted by Sharpton?) for whom the ends justify the means. This is not, despite what some might think, a man of God. This is a black racist who lies in wait for "whitey" to screw up and makes millions off of his big mouth when that "blessed event" occurs.

Re: 'resorting to extortion' - wow. a boycott. gee, I thought extortion applied to threats about legs being broken, etc. Isn't a boycott a free speech issue? Kinda wimpy, folks.

No. Extortion refers just as much to the threat of economic harm as it does to physical harm...and again, extortion is not something a true man of God engages in. A boycott is not merely a free speech issue when you march in front of a store with signs saying "the owner of this store hates us," just as Sharpton and his ilk do on a regular basis. (Photo from history: Nazi thugs standing in front of Jewish-owned stores, with signs saying "Do not buy from Jews." Was this free speech too??)

Re: 'charlatan' - whatever. all i know is, at the OK corral showdown at the R&R Talk Radio Seminar, Stephanie Miller and Al Sharpton were by far the funniest and most entertaining, distantly followed by G Gordon Liddy, who closed it out with a great anecdote involving Presidents that no one could possibly match (and that I can't remember at the moment).

So, he was funny. That doesn't negate his lies and hypocrisy, to say nothing of how he hoodwinks A-A's into thinking he's looking out for them. He's looking out for HIM and no one else.

 

[Finn]

I am curious to know what credential, in your opinion, does one need to preach that the world is 5,000 years old?

The only credential he needs is the ability to practice what he preaches...a credential he lacks. He is a proven liar (remember that little inconvenience called the Ten Commandments, particularly the one about "bearing false witness," and the Tawana Brawley/Stephen Pagones affair...you know, the one he never apologized for after ruining a man's life based on Brawley's lies which were prompted by Sharpton?) for whom the ends justify the means. This is not, despite what some might think, a man of God. This is a black racist who lies in wait for "whitey" to screw up and makes millions off of his big mouth when that "blessed event" occurs.

Re: 'resorting to extortion' - wow. a boycott. gee, I thought extortion applied to threats about legs being broken, etc. Isn't a boycott a free speech issue? Kinda wimpy, folks.

No. Extortion refers just as much to the threat of economic harm as it does to physical harm...and again, extortion is not something a true man of God engages in. A boycott is not merely a free speech issue when you march in front of a store with signs saying "the owner of this store hates us," just as Sharpton and his ilk do on a regular basis. (Photo from history: Nazi thugs standing in front of Jewish-owned stores, with signs saying "Do not buy from Jews." Was this free speech too??)

Re: 'charlatan' - whatever. all i know is, at the OK corral showdown at the R&R Talk Radio Seminar, Stephanie Miller and Al Sharpton were by far the funniest and most entertaining, distantly followed by G Gordon Liddy, who closed it out with a great anecdote involving Presidents that no one could possibly match (and that I can't remember at the moment).

So, he was funny. That doesn't negate his lies and hypocrisy, to say nothing of how he hoodwinks A-A's into thinking he's looking out for them. He's looking out for HIM and no one else.

Re: proven liar
The impression that I get is Al Sharpton still thinks something happened to Tawana Brawley. So, perhaps you believe he is wrong, delusional, or paranoid. But that is different than being a liar. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lie

Re: Extortion
"The use, or the express or implicit threat of the use, of violence or other criminal means to cause harm to person, reputation, or property as a means to obtain property from someone else with his consent. USC 18" http://www.lectlaw.com/def/e073.htm

1. Boycotts are not 'criminal means'

2. Boycotts are used by groups from all walks of life to get their way. When I was in high school, fundamentalist Christians were supposed to boycott Procter & Gamble because the logo was a satanic symbol (gasp!). If Nazi thugs has confined themselves to boycotting Jewish stores and not moved on to thuggery and genocide, many of the very same people who are so opposed to Al Sharpton would be perfectly fine with boycotting Jewish stores. In fact, many of those people weren't so opposed to the thuggery (remember that little inconvenience called Marge Schott who said about Hitler; "Everybody knows he was good at the beginning but he just went too far.").

Re: 'lies in wait for "whitey" to screw up
I am waiting for the day when Big Al has to wait. At the moment, he's plenty busy exploiting situations created by idiots. I personally don't mind someone drawing publicity to many of these issues. I don't feel threatened at all by anything Sharpton does. Do you?

And, your post is peppered with opinions you are stating as facts ("he is not a man of God", "he's looking out for him and no one else", blah, blah, blah). I'm surprised, because you generally do better than that.

Finally, that he was funny, which is how we got started here, is the name of the game, isn't it? Controversy => ratings => advertisers. Play ball. As a radio pro, I would think you would love it.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

Re: proven liar
The impression that I get is Al Sharpton still thinks something happened to Tawana Brawley. So, perhaps you believe he is wrong, delusional, or paranoid. But that is different than being a liar. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lie

He was proven to be a liar in a court of law. He can believe what he wants. The record says differently. Oh, and BTW: It was Tawana Brawley who recanted her Sharpton-planted story, in its entirety. Even his teenaged shill knew when the charade had gone far enough.

And, your post is peppered with opinions you are stating as facts ("he is not a man of God", "he's looking out for him and no one else", blah, blah, blah). I'm surprised, because you generally do better than that.

To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen: I know men of God. Al Sharpton is no man of God.

Re: Extortion
"The use, or the express or implicit threat of the use, of violence or other criminal means to cause harm to person, reputation, or property as a means to obtain property from someone else with his consent. USC 18" http://www.lectlaw.com/def/e073.htm

Thanks for proving my point: "Throw some money in my pot or I'll march in front of your store and tell everyone you're a racist." How is that not harmful to someone's reputation and/or property? Calling someone a racist under those conditions sounds like excellent grounds for a libel suit.