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Will network daytime game show ever make a full comeback?

MeTV's website did a little retrospective the other day on The Hollywood Squares.
Speaking of Wink Martindale still being with us, I was astounded to learn how many of the Squares
from it's classic run are still hanging in there.

Peter Marshall - host, age 89
Rose Marie - age 92
Marty Allen - age 93
Nanette Fabray - age 95

And though Eva Gabor is no longer with us, her sister Zsa Zsa is
still around at age 99.
 
Edward, please stop bludgeoning this topic. It is now so near death that I fear we will have to rush it to the ER before much longer.

As I said way back at post #15:

The era is long gone. There is more revenue in a daytime schedule full of talk shows. The industry follows the money.

Long paragraphs of your protests will not change anything. K?

Your arguments have now become circular:
Posts #2 & #3: We answer your original question.
Post #4: You rebut #3 as if you know more about the television business than the stations do.
Post #5: A reasonable suggestion is made about where to find classic game shows, which you ignore.
Posts #6, #7 & #8: We continue to explain how the business works.
Post #9: You attempt to put me down and "explain" why you are right and I am wrong.
Post #10: A belated response to #4.
Posts #11 & #12: Sidebar on the old shows.
Post #13: Valid point made about viability of the few game shows that have survived (mostly due to longevity), second valid point made about GSN going downhill.
Post #14: Response to #13.
Post #15: I take offense at your attempt to put me down back in #9 and make the statements I requoted above. A reasonable person would have stopped arguing at that point.
Posts #16 & #17: Sidebar on Wink Martindale.
Post #18: Someone new to the thread restates in his own words what has already been said in posts #2, #3, #6, #7, and #8 ... that the daytime game show era is over and not coming back.

By now, you are responding to everything by repeating yourself. Posts #20, #28, and this latest one (#58) are little more than "if they'd do it my way it would work" posts. Around here, we call that being an armchair quarterback: You are outside the business, you have had it explained by those in the business why your point of view is faulty, and you still insist that it should be done simply because you think it should.

Armchair quarterbacks do not gain longevity here. I politely suggest you accept that you will not win this argument and end it now, before you inadvertently say something that will destroy whatever credibility you might have left.
 
If I may, I suggest that we not waste any more time on these armchair quarterbacks. They're never going to get it. They'll never realize that they don't have a leg to stand on. Don't get me wrong; I'm just as sick of reading these circular arguments as you are of engaging in them. These arguments make this whole message board look bad. I'm outside the business, too, but at least I realize that the so-called "good ol' days" of gameshows (or anything else, for that matter) are never coming back.
 
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Go ahead, Frank, close this thread already.

Awwww, James, don'tcha want to see how Edward reacts to everyone telling him he's never going to get his way and that his thought process is stuck in the 1970s and 1980s?
 
The old big 3 Networks have never cared about kids, outside of Saturday mornings

They still didn't care about the kids. They cared about the kid$' parent$' wallet$, and wanted to make $ure that the parent$ $pent their hard-earned ca$h on their advertiser$' product$. :D
 
The reason why I want network daytime game shows back was because I never got to experience it because of school,

What part of "Please get off the waaaaaambulance" do you not get?

why couldn't the networks air the soaps while kids were in school and air the game shows when kids came home from school, for an example a schedule like this:

Probably because they didn't feel the need. They did just fine, thank you very much, and if they thought that would work, they'd do it.

Seriously, they could potentially do well if put together and sold on DVD. I've never checked into it, but are any of those classic game shows available that way? But again, if there's no market (read: Lots of potential sales), nobody will bother. And even then, tapes of the shows would have to exist today. No guarantee of that, 30-50 years later.
 
I've been waiting for decades for someone to sell copies of "The Defenders" - a legal series from the early 1960's (CBS, I think). So far it hasn't been available. I saw some of the early programs and they were very good. Didn't see the remainder because I was shipped to Viet Nam. Also would love to see "My World and Welcome to It" which only lasted one season. But the networks haven't listened to me either. :rolleyes:
 
I've been waiting for decades for someone to sell copies of "The Defenders" - a legal series from the early 1960's (CBS, I think). So far it hasn't been available. I saw some of the early programs and they were very good. Didn't see the remainder because I was shipped to Viet Nam. Also would love to see "My World and Welcome to It" which only lasted one season. But the networks haven't listened to me either. :rolleyes:

The Defenders was a bit before my time, or at least not what my folks would let me watch.

My World...And Welcome to it was too highbrow for a mainstream audience, and at one year and 26 episodes, had too short a tenure for syndication. Were it not for William Windom, I doubt it would have survived 13 weeks. Airing opposite CBS's Gunsmoke didn't help matters any.
 
Seriously, they could potentially do well if put together and sold on DVD. I've never checked into it, but are any of those classic game shows available that way? But again, if there's no market (read: Lots of potential sales), nobody will bother. And even then, tapes of the shows would have to exist today. No guarantee of that, 30-50 years later.

Maybe Edward will hit the lottery big and spend the rest of his life tracking down the tapes of all those shows so he can put them out on DVD ... I would just caution him, when writing his business plan, to make sure he has enough money budgeted for warehouse space to hold all that unsold inventory, especially the retailer returns after the first few months.
 
Seriously, they [game shows] could potentially do well if put together and sold on DVD. I've never checked into it, but are any of those classic game shows available that way? But again, if there's no market (read: Lots of potential sales), nobody will bother. And even then, tapes of the shows would have to exist today. No guarantee of that, 30-50 years later.

There were releases of DVDs with the first televised edition of the "Jeopardy!" that has been in production since the year 1984, certain editions of the "Match Game" that was in production from the year 1973 until the year 1979, the "Family Feud" that was in production from the year 1976 until the year 1985, and "The Price is Right" that has been in production since the year 1972.
 
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There were releases of DVDs with the first televised edition of the "Jeopardy!" that has been in production since the year 1984, certain editions of the "Match Game" that was in production from the year 1973 until the year 1979, the "Family Feud" that was in production from the year 1976 until the year 1985, and "The Price is Right" that has been in production since the year 1972.

But all those were "best of" compilations, not the complete series, or even full seasons. I had a version of the Match Game DVD set at one time. And they probably never sold enough to justify doing anything more.

I saw on TV that (The REAL) Bob Eubanks is doing a live game show at one of the casinos in Tunica, MS near Memphis, which I guess is part of a tour that is making a stop there. So he's apparently alive and well. According to Wikipedia Eubanks is 78 and Wink Martindale is 82.
 
Hugh Downs ("Concentration") turned 95 on Valentine's Day, and Joe Garagiola, another old "Today" hand who also hosted game shows, turned 90 two days earlier.
 
I saw on TV that (The REAL) Bob Eubanks is doing a live game show at one of the casinos in Tunica, MS near Memphis, which I guess is part of a tour that is making a stop there. So he's apparently alive and well. According to Wikipedia Eubanks is 78 and Wink Martindale is 82.

Bob was certainly alive and well when I saw him at the Pacific Pioneer Broadcasters luncheon in November at which he and Stephanie Edwards were honored for all their years of hosting the Rose Parade on KTLA/5. Just saw Wink at the last luncheon at the end of January. Both of them look really great and have aged very gracefully.

and Monty Hall is still alive and kicking at 94.

Saw Monty at a PPB luncheon a few months before Buzzr launched. Not just alive kicking (and also looks great for his age), but still totally together mentally and -- like Bob and Wink -- incredibly nice.
 
Hugh Downs ("Concentration") turned 95 on Valentine's Day, and<strong> Joe Garagiola</strong>, another old "Today" hand who also hosted game shows, turned 90 two days earlier.
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Ooops, I had him in the "Abe Vigoda" category...Joe was always one of my favorite broadcasters growing up (too young for me to remember him as a ball player)
 
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Hugh Downs ("Concentration") turned 95 on Valentine's Day, and Joe Garagiola, another old "Today" hand who also hosted game shows, turned 90 two days earlier.
Ooops, I had him in the "Abe Vigoda" category...Joe was always one of my favorite broadcasters growing up (too young for me to remember him as a ball player)

He's pretty much confined his on-air activities to Phoenix since the Diamondbacks made their 1998 debut. He was a part-time (mostly Sundays) game analyst for most of their existence, retiring a few years ago. His son being the GM for a long time certainly helped his employment prospects, though. :D
 
There were releases of DVDs with the first televised edition of the "Jeopardy!" that has been in production since the year 1984, certain editions of the "Match Game" that was in production from the year 1973 until the year 1979, the "Family Feud" that was in production from the year 1976 until the year 1985, and "The Price is Right" that has been in production since the year 1972.

And "Password" too.
 
He's pretty much confined his on-air activities to Phoenix since the Diamondbacks made their 1998 debut. He was a part-time (mostly Sundays) game analyst for most of their existence, retiring a few years ago. His son being the GM for a long time certainly helped his employment prospects, though. :D

There is an old episode of To Tell The Truth where Garagiola was one of the panelists. The contestant, who appeared in disguise, was Garagiola's son who would go on to become GM of the Diamondbacks. Joe appeared to not know who he was until the disguise came off!
 
Bob was certainly alive and well when I saw him at the Pacific Pioneer Broadcasters luncheon in November at which he and Stephanie Edwards were honored for all their years of hosting the Rose Parade on KTLA/5. Just saw Wink at the last luncheon at the end of January. Both of them look really great and have aged very gracefully.



Saw Monty at a PPB luncheon a few months before Buzzr launched. Not just alive kicking (and also looks great for his age), but still totally together mentally and -- like Bob and Wink -- incredibly nice.

And Peter Marshall will be turning 90 next month. I guess game show hosting is like the Fountain of Youth. Who knew?

Actually, in Barker's case, the longevity can probably be traced to his vegan diet. Here's my favorite scene in an otherwise mediocre movie - Happy Gilmore (1996) when Bob was 73

https://www.google.com/#q=bob+barker+fighting+adam+sandler
 
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