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Will Pulse 87 make it past Oct 30th?
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MickeyD
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Nick said:
lalumia said:
To compare burning records in a sports stadium to marching for equal protection under the law has to be one of the most idiotic things you've ever written on here. How anyone takes you seriously is beyond me.
Why must we turn every thread about Pulse 87 into an attack on dance fans? The subject we're talking about is whether or not we will think Pulse 87 will be on the air next month, not "disco sucks". Some of us current dance fans do think that disco sucks because it's old. There is a big difference between disco and current dance. I don't feel comfortable at the moment making any speculation on whether Pulse 87 will last beyond next week or not, I will just wait till next week and listen to 87.7 and find out for myself whether Pulse is on or not.
lalumia said:
You like disco but took pride into the "disco sucks campaign." Do you even hear yourself? How shallow of a statement is that? You like disco but didn't mind seeing disco being demised and bashed by someone who wished doom and demise on OTHER hard working people because his format got flipped, really is that something to be proud of. Do you have ANY idea what the jocks and the staff at Pulse done for the people that catered and respected them? If no one respected Pulse, no one would've donated to them. Now we all know not many are dance fans. So, if there is something catered to a "community" or "group", which is what Pulse is doing for us, then let us be. It's okay for all you others in the industry that have your signals with ratings LOWER than Pulse's and yet you still serve your "community" and we don't attack what's yours, so why bash and attack ours? And for those that don't even listen to Pulse (as in could care less), then why do you even care if Pulse is succeeding or not?
Nick said:
Nick....no disrespect here, but this is where your youth really shows!
Let me give you a brief lesson here....The disco era was the BIGGEST moment for dance music. It was part of the popular culture and mainstream. MANY cities at the time had disco radio stations ('KTU - 92.3 in New York, WCAU in Philly, WBOS and Kiss 108 in Boston, just to name a few). Even television shows such as "CHiPs" had a lot of disco style music interlaced in it. If anything if it WASN'T for disco there wouldn't be current dance, to which a lot of today's European influence with dance music has roots that go back to that era.
It was the "disco sucks" movement that happened in Chicago back in 1979 that changed things. I know you weren't alive then....heck, I was 12 when it happened. Yet after that moment occurred, disco started to take a slide and while the country had a brief "recovery" in the mid-80's to early 90's, dance music never was able to come back to that disco peak. As a dance music fan, you may consider disco to be "old", but you HAVE to respect those from that era because they were PIONEERS.
And in all actuality, the only difference between "disco" and "dance music" is the name. If anything, today's dance music and its various genres are really "disco evolved" but since a lot of negative have been put into the word "disco", the name itself "died", but the music is still here, no matter what name it is called.
Want to learn more about disco? You should really check this site out. Let this serve as an "influence" to what is dance music today.
http://www.discomusic.com/
The Jammin' Oldies Stations that sprung up all across the country in the mid to late 90s were essentially DISCO stations. I don't know what it's like in other places but I know I live in the Hartford Market and they regularly throw DISCO tunes into the mix on the Soft AC station LITE 100.5 and even on 102.9 The BIG D, which is OLDIES/CLASSIC HITS. They even brand THE BIG D as "Good Time ROCK & ROLL DRC-FM" and "Good Time Rock & Roll Hartford's Big D".
There are specialty shows on stations that mix in DISCO. - STUDIO 108 on WEBE 108 in Bridgeport and STUDIO 94 on 94.7 WMAS in Springfield. There's even this strange guy in Vineland, New Jersey buying time on WVLT 92.1 that plays all DISCO on his show - DISCO USA FRIDAYS 7PM-9PM.
Occasionally DISCO gets mixed in during the OLD SCHOOL Blocks on HOT 93.7 in Hartford. And before Hartford got an FM Hip-hop station the AM Urbans mixed in some DISCO during Old School Blocks as well.
There are specialty shows on stations that mix in DISCO. - STUDIO 108 on WEBE 108 in Bridgeport and STUDIO 94 on 94.7 WMAS in Springfield. There's even this strange guy in Vineland, New Jersey buying time on WVLT 92.1 that plays all DISCO on his show - DISCO USA FRIDAYS 7PM-9PM.
Occasionally DISCO gets mixed in during the OLD SCHOOL Blocks on HOT 93.7 in Hartford. And before Hartford got an FM Hip-hop station the AM Urbans mixed in some DISCO during Old School Blocks as well.
one thing disco had that current dance doesn't is actual stars of it's own;
most people wouldn't know david guetta or cascada if they tripped over them in the street, but everybody would recognize barry white, the village people, donna summer, etc if they saw them somewhere back in the day;
I discussed the lack of stars in dance back on these boards almost ten years ago,and nothing has changed since then;
and Guetta producing hits for Kelly Rowland or Akon doesn't make them dance artists, anymore than Rod Stewart or the Rolling Stones became dance artists by having dance hits in the late 70s
most people wouldn't know david guetta or cascada if they tripped over them in the street, but everybody would recognize barry white, the village people, donna summer, etc if they saw them somewhere back in the day;
I discussed the lack of stars in dance back on these boards almost ten years ago,and nothing has changed since then;
and Guetta producing hits for Kelly Rowland or Akon doesn't make them dance artists, anymore than Rod Stewart or the Rolling Stones became dance artists by having dance hits in the late 70s
This Disco argument is getting too old. What happened in the 70's has no impact on whats going on today. Heck most the of Program Directors that are programming Top 40 stations today were in diapers back then. Name me one dance station that's playing disco with current dance. The KTU's of the world dont count either. You are talking about a span of 40 years. I think you guys need to look over some billboard charts from the 80's and 90's. Last time I check there were plenty of dance records on there. Were they "pure" dance records, not all of them, but who cares. They were upbeat and people danced at the clubs and in their cars to them. I don't hear Elvis on a rock station or even on a classic rock and he's the King of Rock N Roll. He was a pioneer and I rarely hear him on an oldies station. Top 40 radio is finally playing a ton of dance records for the first time in years and you are still complaining. Top 40 radio is shifting towards high energy music. David Guetta has had 3 records go Top 40, Cascada is back, Kim Sozzi, Lady Gaga, Kaci Battaglia, Lady Gaga, Black Eyed Peas and Pitbull. They are all dance friendly artists. I could name a dozen more, even the alternative bands are leaning that way. This is a great time for dance music.
Dancerev889 said:
Agreed!
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Tony Santiago said:
I completely second that!!
If there was any wonder why dance music in America stuggles, this would be it... an identity crisis!
Dance fans fighting with dance fans over WHAT IS DANCE and then a seperate fight over what stations are really dance and which aren't... Instead of saying okay this is a dancy station let's build on it... the core dance audience in-fights and the stations suffer from the negative comments or dismissal from one segment of the dance population or another - and then stations disappear.
Dance fans fighting with dance fans over WHAT IS DANCE and then a seperate fight over what stations are really dance and which aren't... Instead of saying okay this is a dancy station let's build on it... the core dance audience in-fights and the stations suffer from the negative comments or dismissal from one segment of the dance population or another - and then stations disappear.
I never liked the use of the word dance to identify a form of music. Dance is a verb. Something u could do to any form of music hip hop,rock even country. I think that's why u hear such wide opinion on what "dance music" is. At least when it was called disco in the 70's or House music in the late 80's and 90's it had an identity. Now it's so fragmented we just gave up and called it dance.
That would be an interesting topic about the dance music and "Pulse 87". I guess I would like to share it to Tony Santiago, because he's a fan of dance music in New York City. I remember listening to "Z100" in the 80's as well as "Hot 103" and "Hot 97" back in the day. By the early 1990's, I moved up to the Hudson Valley area around 1993 when I was at Anderson School at the time, there are two Top 40 stations in the HV listening area like WSPK's "K104" where they used to have Stew Schantz in mornings and then on Sunday nights, Al Bandiero hosted a syndicated show called "American Dance Classics". I used to taped them all on the radio.
And then, there was WBPM's original "B94" when it was also a Top 40 station at 94.3 when they used to have Carl Dayton in mornings, "Downtown" Lou Brown in middays along with the "All Request Power Hour" and then CJ in afternoon drive right up until 1999. "B94" was a good station playing a little bit of dance including artists like Boyz II Men, Real McCoy, Michael Jackson and a few others.
By the time, WBPM went to a "Jammin' Oldies" format around 1999, it was "Rhythm 94.3" where they played some older dance music as well as Motown, soul and disco in the mix. I remember "Rhythm 94.3" was a station in the Hudson Valley playing "Jammin' Oldies". I remember CJ hosted the "Morning Rhythm Show" and then Ross Hanson and Lou Brown, they are the best, and then Vince McNally doing some fill-ins. And on Saturday nights, Al Bandiero hosted another syndicated show called the "Jammin' Party", the show which was heard on "Jammin' 105" on Sunday mornings. That was many years ago.
By 2001, WBPM pulled the plug on the "Jammin' Oldies" format and went oldies as "Cool 94.3" until 2004 and then flipped once again to country music when it was "Kicks 94.3" which is now "The Wolf" with a different call letters WKXP, the WBPM calls is still parked at 92.9 since 2004 when it was oldies and then it is now "Classic Hits 92.9" playing a little bit of stuff that are not "Classic Hits" anymore, it sounded almost like a classic rock station than WPDH.
That's my personal thoughts on dance music in the Hudson Valley. If you look in the Poughkeepsie listening area, there are still no dance stations out there, if you count on "K104", it does sound a lot more dance oriented music than the ones you hear on "Pulse 87", and then there WPKF's "Kiss-FM" at 96.1, it has some more hip-hop/R&B rhythmic CHR to it, just like "Hot 97", "Power 105" and now "92.3 Now-FM".
I don't really listen to "Pulse 87" that much, will see what happens come October 31st if "Pilse 87" will be it's last gig, I hope I can get my airchecks ready for that.
And then, there was WBPM's original "B94" when it was also a Top 40 station at 94.3 when they used to have Carl Dayton in mornings, "Downtown" Lou Brown in middays along with the "All Request Power Hour" and then CJ in afternoon drive right up until 1999. "B94" was a good station playing a little bit of dance including artists like Boyz II Men, Real McCoy, Michael Jackson and a few others.
By the time, WBPM went to a "Jammin' Oldies" format around 1999, it was "Rhythm 94.3" where they played some older dance music as well as Motown, soul and disco in the mix. I remember "Rhythm 94.3" was a station in the Hudson Valley playing "Jammin' Oldies". I remember CJ hosted the "Morning Rhythm Show" and then Ross Hanson and Lou Brown, they are the best, and then Vince McNally doing some fill-ins. And on Saturday nights, Al Bandiero hosted another syndicated show called the "Jammin' Party", the show which was heard on "Jammin' 105" on Sunday mornings. That was many years ago.
By 2001, WBPM pulled the plug on the "Jammin' Oldies" format and went oldies as "Cool 94.3" until 2004 and then flipped once again to country music when it was "Kicks 94.3" which is now "The Wolf" with a different call letters WKXP, the WBPM calls is still parked at 92.9 since 2004 when it was oldies and then it is now "Classic Hits 92.9" playing a little bit of stuff that are not "Classic Hits" anymore, it sounded almost like a classic rock station than WPDH.
That's my personal thoughts on dance music in the Hudson Valley. If you look in the Poughkeepsie listening area, there are still no dance stations out there, if you count on "K104", it does sound a lot more dance oriented music than the ones you hear on "Pulse 87", and then there WPKF's "Kiss-FM" at 96.1, it has some more hip-hop/R&B rhythmic CHR to it, just like "Hot 97", "Power 105" and now "92.3 Now-FM".
I don't really listen to "Pulse 87" that much, will see what happens come October 31st if "Pilse 87" will be it's last gig, I hope I can get my airchecks ready for that.
MickeyD said:
And let's not forget WRGB up in Albany, they used to have the same TV audio carrier of channel 6 at 87.7. I remember listening to WRGB right up until the digital conversion back on June 12th when 87.7 went static, it was during "The Late Show with David Letterman" was on. About a month later, it was on 87.9 and it was short lived, because the FCC didn't want to broadcast a TV station at 87.9.
disney fanatic said:
To borrow from neo11, "Yet another thoughtful, intelligent contribution to this board..." One which has thrown this thread hopelessly off course and marooned us in the Delta Quadrant.....
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