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WILL RTV SURVIVE ?

gregg75

gregg75

Does it seem to you that RTV is going downhill instead of up? First they lost affiliates
and now they've lost shows. They appear to be headed to low power stations that only
cover about half of a large city. Their new schedule is like going from color TV to black
and white. Where did they screw up?

INDIVIDUAL FEEDS FOR INDIVIDUAL MARKETS
That was a waste, and looks like it took Me-TV and Antenna TV to convince them that
was a bad idea. I wonder how much $$$ was used on that?

TECHNICAL ISSUES
I have yet to see out of sync voices on Me-TV. Or the same show on Friday that they
aired on Wednesday.

I hate to see RTV go down, but they wrote their own ticket. They have nobody to blame
but themselves as their ship continues to take on water.
 
Both 7/4/11 and 7/5/11 I had "Married With Children" and "Father's Knows Best" (the two programs I saw) on AntennaTV were out of sync (voice and picture)
 
I saw on the New York and New England TV boards that WSAH had once again picked up RTV, so hopefully, that'll boost their morale! ::)
 
Did they loose shows or did they just change their program schedule. i enjoyed watching Dragnet although there wern't that many of them, The Rockford Files and Ellery Queen. The only show I am watching now is Police Story.

I can't figure out why they a runnig a couple of shows from Canada that don't appear to be all that Retro.
 
gregg75 said:
I hate to see RTV go down, but they wrote their own ticket. They have nobody to blame
but themselves as their ship continues to take on water.
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I think RTV's collapse started much earlier than today, when Equity Broadcasting sold RTV to Luken, and later booted RTV from Equity's satellite space, forcing Luken to find replacement programming for RTV's affiliates.

The fact that most of RTV's programming are now second-rate, that they are switching to a uniform schedule for all its affiliates, and that many of their key affiliates are dumping RTV in favor of Antenna Tv or MeTV are signs that RTV is not long for this world. And buying a slew of LPTVs to guarantee coverage of RTV and Luken's other networks are futile at best, not only because of their coverage areas, but the fact that cable carriage of LPTVs are not guaranteed.

DToTheJ said:
I saw on the New York and New England TV boards that WSAH had once again picked up RTV, so hopefully, that'll boost their morale! ::)
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Now how soon until WSAH dumps RTV again? It was things like this that led the station to dump RTV the first time.
 
i think cold case or what ever is another one!! im hoping wmfp in Boston drops rtv and goes with metv or antenna tv!!
 
I think MeTV hit them like a ton of bricks. RTV was on top of the world and WHAM MeTV comes out of nowhere and ever since they cant stop the bleeding. Losing the universal catalog was the final nail in the coffin. Instead of buying stations they should have invested in the Warner catalog.......but they are too cheap.
 
azumanga said:
DToTheJ said:
I saw on the New York and New England TV boards that WSAH had once again picked up RTV, so hopefully, that'll boost their morale! ::)
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Now how soon until WSAH dumps RTV again? It was things like this that led the station to dump RTV the first time.
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I thought that WRNT was the local affiliate for RTV, or did they drop it? Or, am I thinking of a competely different market/area.

azumanga said:
And buying a slew of LPTVs to guarantee coverage of RTV and Luken's other networks are futile at best, not only because of their coverage areas, but the fact that cable carriage of LPTVs are not guaranteed.
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Also, should LPTV owners (and that would include Luken, if he's buying up LPTV stations) be worried about the National Broadband Plan, and how it's going to affect them. I thought I read somewhere awhile ago that LPTV owners were worried about it.
 
I say yes. At least for now. Since they don't have any major library programming anymore and have resorted to mostly second or third tier programming, they are likely not having to pay much for anything. RTV's future is on LPTV, CA, and translators. They'll be kind of like America One. We've seen what MeTV has done to them....they are snatching their high powered, big time affiliates and if RTV resurfaces in that market, it's on a LPTV (like we've seen in Atlanta, Pittsburgh, etc). I don't think Antenna TV has really affected them one way or another in terms of affiliates, but MeTV is killing them, and rightfully so. RTV does have a following, though - they have some of the most die-hard supporters on their Facebook page that I have EVER seen!

I don't think the LPTV purchase strategy is going to work, either. None of the Luken networks are worth picking up.
 
notalkallstatic said:
I thought that WRNT was the local affiliate for RTV, or did they drop it? Or, am I thinking of a competely different market/area.
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WRNT is a low-power station that broadcasts near Hartford. Their signal is extremely limited and I believe it's still only analog.
WSAH only covers Fairfield and New Haven counties in CT. Their signal does not reach the Hartford area, nor do they have much cable carriage around Hartford.
 
RE: Carolinaradio

So true. Luken has these subs and nobody there is very good at programming
them. Even when they had a few decent shows they throw in a bunch of junk
shows and dumb down the whole network (RTV, TUFF-TV). Sadly, now My
Family TV is the best sub he has and it's C- at best and plays mostly public
domain material.

What good is one, two or three networks if you haven't got anything worthwhile
to broadcast on them? It's like a doctor's office without patients.
 
gregg75 said:
Sadly, now My Family TV is the best sub he has and it's C- at best and plays mostly public domain material.
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The public domain shows were on My Family TV back when ValCom ran the network. Luken actually removed most of the public domain shows from the lineup in last weeks schedule change.
 
Why do people LOVE to Kick a network when it's down,but not out?

I don't think they will lose more than another 15-20 affiliates, and that's mostly Media-General and Cox stations at this point. They will still be stable and in key markets. MeTV doesn't even have an affiliate in NYC!

TV libraries are a dime a dozen, but getting their own network of LP and Transponder stations is a good idea - as it will benefit all the Luken networks, not just RTV. I think they will be able to get local cable/teleco systems to pick the LP/Transponder stations up,perhaps they will have to offer them without charging a retransmission fee. (The trade off is viewers,and having commercials and infomercials seen.)

The Warners library is far from an end-all-be-all! Don't you think Neal Sabin and Weigel went after it for MeTV before they settled on CBS and 20th? There's GOT to be a reason they (or Antenna TV) didn't get the library.
 
The Warner library is available to my knowledge. I think MeTV wants to focus on 50s/60s/70s mostly (which 20th and CBS deliver) and a lot of the Warner product is newer (70s and a lot of 80s) and doesn't really fit. CBS is a great library for what they are wanting, it fits them well. I would not be surprised if Antenna TV picks up the Warner library. Alice, Mama's Family, Barney Miller, etc. would fit well on there.

RTV is going to be a network for LPTV and CA. They may not lose many more affiliates, but the ones they will probably lose are key affiliates. I'll believe they'll get these LPTVs on cable when I see it.
 
mysticnitekatt said:
Why do people LOVE to Kick a network when it's down,but not out?

I don't think they will lose more than another 15-20 affiliates, and that's mostly Media-General and Cox stations at this point. They will still be stable and in key markets. MeTV doesn't even have an affiliate in NYC!
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Easier said than done in NYC. Many stations there are owned by the networks, and none of them are picking up third-party subchannel affiliations. They're adding their own programming, or programming that they have an ownership stake in (like Tribune and Antenna). Tribune already had a deal with MeTV's sister, ThisTV, so that's why it's on WPIX. MeTV competes with Antenna, so it won't be on WPIX.

As a result, the other sub-nets are fighting over the crumbs, aka smaller independent rimshots.
 
FightingIrish said:
mysticnitekatt said:
Why do people LOVE to Kick a network when it's down,but not out?

I don't think they will lose more than another 15-20 affiliates, and that's mostly Media-General and Cox stations at this point. They will still be stable and in key markets. MeTV doesn't even have an affiliate in NYC!
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Easier said than done in NYC. Many stations there are owned by the networks, and none of them are picking up third-party subchannel affiliations. They're adding their own programming, or programming that they have an ownership stake in (like Tribune and Antenna). Tribune already had a deal with MeTV's sister, ThisTV, so that's why it's on WPIX. MeTV competes with Antenna, so it won't be on WPIX.

As a result, the other sub-nets are fighting over the crumbs, aka smaller independent rimshots.
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That's my point - they will only be able to enter the market if they get on a LP station.

I wonder if The Tribune (and Local TV LLC) Stations will keep THIS TV when the contracts expire - I could see Trib doing a movie-based channel just for the Tribune and Local TV LLC stations.
 
I was watching an episode of Police Story Thursday and half way through the program the audio went out. I stuck with it for about 10 minutes and then went to bed. Not a good way to build an audience.
 
vmorrison said:
I was watching an episode of Police Story Thursday and half way through the program the audio went out. I stuck with it for about 10 minutes and then went to bed. Not a good way to build an audience.
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It was most likely an issue on the affiliates end!
 
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