...will soon be 97-3 JACKfm

[hello4]

Apparently it's imminent, judging by that new sweeper, as well as another sweeper or two that just mention 97-3 without the jackokc.com. Boy the "reception" was horrible today; I would've listened longer but I just got sick of the cutting out. I haven't had reception that bad since I was on dial-up! I don't know if that's technical or internet problems, or if they're actually having lots of listening which is overwhelming the servers.

And as ms7168 mentioned, the repetition is cropping up ("Straight Up", "Jump", "Surrender").

"The Remedy" Jason Mraz
"Straight Up" Paula Abdul
"Gimme All Your Lovin'" ZZ Top
"Walking On The Moon" The Police
"Zombie" The Cranberries
"Surrender" Cheap Trick
"Never Tear Us Apart" INXS
"Spiderwebs" No Doubt
"Love Song" Tesla
"Love Her Madly" The Doors
"Get This Party Started" Pink
"The Stroke" Billy Squier
"Sunglasses At Night" Corey Hart
"Big Me" Foo Fighters
"The Logical Song" Supertramp
"You Dropped A Bomb On Me" The Gap Band
"Prove It All Night" Bruce Springsteen
"Orange Crush" R.E.M.
"Don't Dream It's Over" Crowded House
"What It Takes" Aerosmith
"Rebel Rebel" David Bowie
"Your Body Is A Wonderland" John Mayer
"Flying High Again" Ozzy Osbourne
"The Last Worthless Evening" Don Henley
"Shine" Collective Soul
"One Thing Leads To Another" The Fixx
"Feelin' Stronger Every Day" Chicago
"Boulevard" Jackson Browne
"It's My Life" Bon Jovi
"I'll Be There For You" The Rembrandts
"No One Is To Blame" Howard Jones
"The Impression That I Get" The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
"Jack And Diane" John Mellencamp
"After Midnight ('90 Version)" Eric Clapton
"Will It Go Round In Circles" Billy Preston
"Scar Tissue" Red Hot Chili Peppers
"Don't Ask Me Why" Billy Joel
"You Better You Bet" The Who
"I'm A Believer" Smash Mouth
"Jump" Van Halen
"Rebel Yell" Billy Idol
"Goodbye To You" Scandal

 

[ms7168]

> And as ms7168 mentioned, the repetition is cropping up
> ("Straight Up", "Jump", "Surrender").

I sent them a couple of messages about their servers. I guess they don't care.
I've been listening to the national feed directly. It's more reliable by a longshot =and= it doesn't force me to use WMP either. I am also noticing songs that 97.3 is eschewing in favor of a heavier rotation I suppose. Can think of no other reason they wouldn't play the entire JACK library.

 

[hello4]

So do you have information that this is being programmed locally? Others have intimated that they're using the network feed (not to be confused with the www.jack.fm feed), with local drops and spots. I hear quite a few PSAs, which are probably part of the feed; and I don't really recall any national spots. Somebody previously posted a good explanation of what's streaming on jack.fm.

 

[Kent]

> So do you have information that this is being programmed
> locally? Others have intimated that they're using the
> network feed (not to be confused with the www.jack.fm feed),
> with local drops and spots. I hear quite a few PSAs, which
> are probably part of the feed; and I don't really recall any
> national spots. Somebody previously posted a good
> explanation of what's streaming on jack.fm.

It's definitely running the satellite feed. I gave it a listen online and flipped on my local satellite Jack FM at the same, and they were running the exact same programming.

 

[hello4]

> Somebody previously posted a good
> explanation of what's streaming on jack.fm.

And here's what "somebody" (jack) had to say:

First question: where were you listening to this? Was it on the www.jackokc.com site or www.jack.fm? I was looking at the music list and while I am very familiar with the ABC stream, it looked VERY much like several hours of the original JACK-FM Internet stream. I looked and many if not all the songs you were talking about played at some point last night. The Internet stream was/is more international/eccentric than the satellite feed from ABC.
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The feed on www.jackokc.com is the ABC Radio feed along with the new KOJK liners and IDs. It is Windows Media, which Macs don't really do well with.

The Internet stream has been going since 2000 and is the last vestige of the Original JACK-FM as it is decided what (if anything) will replace it on www.jack.fm

 

[THEInsultant]

> > Somebody previously posted a good
> > explanation of what's streaming on jack.fm.
>
> And here's what "somebody" (jack) had to say:
>
> First question: where were you listening to this? Was it on
> the www.jackokc.com site or www.jack.fm? I was looking at
> the music list and while I am very familiar with the ABC
> stream, it looked VERY much like several hours of the
> original JACK-FM Internet stream. I looked and many if not
> all the songs you were talking about played at some point
> last night. The Internet stream was/is more
> international/eccentric than the satellite feed from ABC.
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>
> The feed on www.jackokc.com is the ABC Radio feed along with
> the new KOJK liners and IDs. It is Windows Media, which Macs
> don't really do well with.
>
> The Internet stream has been going since 2000 and is the
> last vestige of the Original JACK-FM as it is decided what
> (if anything) will replace it on www.jack.fm
>

There's one word that sums up the whole OKC-Jack thing: Insignificant.

Plain and simple.. They aren't going to even be a blip on the radar of OKC radio. They'll have a bad signal in many areas, and their format is a duplication of signals that are easy to hear. Truely speciality formats would be a smarter idea for you guys at Tyler.

Trust me on this one.. It won't amount to a diddly damn in the real world.





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[hello4]

Hey, we'd never thought about it that way! Thanks for setting us straight! We'll flip to Armenian polkas right away!

XOXOX,
Ty and Tony

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Let's place your prognostications now! I know 12+ is also insignificant, but let's just guess at the maximum quarterly KOJK will have in its first year.

And why bother being specialized? In this day and age of radio, THAT'S diddly damn. New media is here, and all these esoteric formats y'all want aren't going to make a dime. And the shocking truth you must come to terms with now: it costs money to run a radio station!

 

[THEInsultant]

> Hey, we'd never thought about it that way! Thanks for
> setting us straight! We'll flip to Armenian polkas right
> away!
>
> XOXOX,
> Ty and Tony
>
> ~
>
> Let's place your prognostications now! I know 12+ is also
> insignificant, but let's just guess at the maximum quarterly
> KOJK will have in its first year.
>
> And why bother being specialized? In this day and age of
> radio, THAT'S diddly damn. New media is here, and all these
> esoteric formats y'all want aren't going to make a dime.
> And the shocking truth you must come to terms with now: it
> costs money to run a radio station!
>
Hello Ty and Tony... LOL! (Like they are going to waste their time reading radio-info!)


97.3 won't muster a 2.5 share. That's my guess.

Yes, radio stations take money to run, however UHF TV stations take even more to run. I guess you guys are finding that out, huh? "I hear a giant suck'in sound..."

Laugh at me all you want to. Variety Hits won't work on your new-found hair-dryer. Forget it. Nothing against you guys, it's just how it's going to play out. When Jack fails you guys miserably, how about Spanish Oldies? Look at what 97.1 in Dallas is doing, look at your predicted signal pattern for 97.3, know that 105.3 now has 930 also, and know that the only station that comes close to providing music to the older Mexicans is a El Reno station with a very bad signal and no night coverage. To me, that would have been the most obvious thing to do with 97.3.



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[hello4]

> 97.3 won't muster a 2.5 share. That's my guess.
>
> Yes, radio stations take money to run, however UHF TV
> stations take even more to run. I guess you guys are
> finding that out, huh? "I hear a giant suck'in sound..."
>
> Laugh at me all you want to. Variety Hits won't work on a
> hair-dryer. Forget it. Nothing against you guys, it's just
> how it's going to play out.

Now I halfway feel like you're addressing me personally; I am not Tony nor Ty, nor do I work for them. I'm just happy to see something, anything, new in this market.

And the irony is, you actually can sell a "hair dryer" when you've got a cluster to group it into. And as I think I've mentioned before, they appear to have complete coverage of Norman, which is now the 3rd largest town in the state.

I'll be conservative (I hope!) and say 4.9; especially if they go local rather than feed.

 

[THEInsultant]

> > 97.3 won't muster a 2.5 share. That's my guess.
> >
> > Yes, radio stations take money to run, however UHF TV
> > stations take even more to run. I guess you guys are
> > finding that out, huh? "I hear a giant suck'in sound..."
> >
> > Laugh at me all you want to. Variety Hits won't work on a
>
> > hair-dryer. Forget it. Nothing against you guys, it's
> just
> > how it's going to play out.
>
> Now I halfway feel like you're addressing me personally; I
> am not Tony nor Ty, nor do I work for them. I'm just happy
> to see something, anything, new in this market.
>
> And the irony is, you actually can sell a "hair dryer" when
> you've got a cluster to group it into. And as I think I've
> mentioned before, they appear to have complete coverage of
> Norman, which is now the 3rd largest town in the state.
>
> I'll be conservative (I hope!) and say 4.9; especially if
> they go local rather than feed.
>

The fact that it does cover Norman (3rd largest), Moore, Newcastle/Tri-City, and S.OKC makes it useful, however, having the right format is a must. I just don't see them gaining much of a foothold on the old standbys of our market. OKC is a very stale market in which people are accustomed to listening to the same set of stations for years and years until they are forced to do otherwise. There will be a small bump when people are trying them, but even that won't last. Don't you think Spanish Oldies would be a better choice in that they could combo sell it with Z?

Question: Do you live in the OKC market?


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[Summers]

Who is Ty?

Please don't tell me it's who I think it is in programming?

 

[THEInsultant]

Re: Who is Ty?

> Please don't tell me it's who I think it is in programming?
>

He's referring to one of the owners, Ty Tyler.

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[radiotower]

> > > 97.3 won't muster a 2.5 share. That's my guess.
> > >
> >
> > I'll be conservative (I hope!) and say 4.9; especially if
> > they go local rather than feed.
> >
>


Either one is better than 50,000 watt KOKC could do. They'd probably be happy with a 2.5 and estatic with a 4.9.

 

[THEInsultant]

> > > > 97.3 won't muster a 2.5 share. That's my guess.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'll be conservative (I hope!) and say 4.9; especially
> if
> > > they go local rather than feed.
> > >
> >
>
>
> Either one is better than 50,000 watt KOKC could do. They'd
> probably be happy with a 2.5 and estatic with a 4.9.
>

You don't know how right-on you are! If 1520 became a station catering to older Mexicans, they'd do very, very well. That damn thing is like a shortwave station at night blasting right into most of the western US, covering a lot of latino population at night. Going with a good Spanish format would be the smartest thing Tony could do with that station. (but would require some effort though.. Mexicans like real radio stations, not crap syndicated stuff)

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[ionosphere]

> You don't know how right-on you are! If 1520 became a
> station catering to older Mexicans, they'd do very, very
> well. That damn thing is like a shortwave station at night
> blasting right into most of the western US, covering a lot
> of latino population at night. Going with a good Spanish
> format would be the smartest thing Tony could do with that
> station. (but would require some effort though.. Mexicans
> like real radio stations, not crap syndicated stuff)
>

1520 is definitely not a taco warmer, my friend.

 

[THEInsultant]

> > You don't know how right-on you are! If 1520 became a
> > station catering to older Mexicans, they'd do very, very
> > well. That damn thing is like a shortwave station at
> night
> > blasting right into most of the western US, covering a lot
>
> > of latino population at night. Going with a good Spanish
> > format would be the smartest thing Tony could do with that
>
> > station. (but would require some effort though.. Mexicans
> > like real radio stations, not crap syndicated stuff)
> >
>
> 1520 is definitely not a taco warmer, my friend.
>

Nahh... But you could certainly have one hot, flaming taco with that stick!

... Talk about on fire! Wow! OK Kids! Can we say, "Calienta quemado taco carbon supremo?!"

If you're confused, just ask for #1520 on the greengo menu.





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[hello4]

> Question: Do you live in the OKC market?

I wouldn't care about the subject if I didn't. Listening to CDs in the car all the time is awkward, since I don't have a CD player and have to use an adapter--which doesn't like cold weather until the engine's warmed up (don't ask me why)! So having a station worth listening to would be rather helpful. But if, as we've observed, the repetition is going to be that hot, the honeymoon may be over quickly. I don't know how many songs KKNG has in its library, but I have never said "Oh I just heard that last night" like ms7168 mentioned of his experience with jackokc.com. "Well why don't you listen to KKNG then"? I have lots of gaps in my country "experience", so much of what they play ends up being unfamiliar. And they, like most other stations, have a very-pervasive morning show. I don't evade morning shows or anything, but a music-intensive morning show would be my cup of tea. I'm not like these Stern-fanatics, and I certainly wouldn't subscribe to Sirius to keep listening to anybody!

Question: Why do you ask where I live?

> The fact that it does cover Norman (3rd largest), Moore,
> Newcastle/Tri-City, and S.OKC makes it useful, however,
> having the right format is a must. I just don't see them
> gaining much of a foothold on the old standbys of our
> market. OKC is a very stale market in which people are
> accustomed to listening to the same set of stations for
> years and years until they are forced to do otherwise.
> There will be a small bump when people are trying them, but
> even that won't last.

That's what I remarked before: after listening to the feed, why be the 6th rock-leaning station in the market? Why not go local, lean a lot more poppish, and knock Magic off its roost? There's also an unserved market for R&B somewhere between the œuvres of 890 and 103.5.

> Don't you think Spanish Oldies would
> be a better choice in that they could combo sell it with Z?

As a non-Hispanic listener, I have no opinion either way. But there's nothing wrong with diversifying your portfolio to attract an additional audience. And once this HD radio stuff gets going, you'll have more alternatives (pun barely intended) than you can shake a stick at (pun not intended). If there are enough Hispanics to warrant it in this market, then they can do Mexican Oldies on a side-channel of 106.7.

 

[THEInsultant]

> > Question: Do you live in the OKC market?
>
> I wouldn't care about the subject if I didn't. Listening to
> CDs in the car all the time is awkward, since I don't have a
> CD player and have to use an adapter--which doesn't like
> cold weather until the engine's warmed up (don't ask me
> why)! So having a station worth listening to would be
> rather helpful. But if, as we've observed, the repetition
> is going to be that hot, the honeymoon may be over quickly.
> I don't know how many songs KKNG has in its library, but I
> have never said "Oh I just heard that last night" like
> ms7168 mentioned of his experience with jackokc.com. "Well
> why don't you listen to KKNG then"? I have lots of gaps in
> my country "experience", so much of what they play ends up
> being unfamiliar. And they, like most other stations, have
> a very-pervasive morning show. I don't evade morning shows
> or anything, but a music-intensive morning show would be my
> cup of tea. I'm not like these Stern-fanatics, and I
> certainly wouldn't subscribe to Sirius to keep listening to
> anybody!
>
> Question: Why do you ask where I live?

Answer: I would like to know from what angle you come from when you post about 97.3. There are many on RI that post about stations they can't even hear, etc. Many are groupies of a format and have little actual knowledge of the market. I at first was thinking you might be more of a "Variety Hits" guy than a resident here.

Thanks for your input.



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