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Will the Simpsons ever get cancelled?

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With the Simpsons 17th season comming up this fall, one has to ask will the Simpsons ever get cancelled? How has it managed to stay on for so long? I say when the show gets to its 20th season, Matt Groeing needs to hang it up and call it quits while the show is on top, like what Seinfeld did. Don't want to run the risk of jumping the shark and going out like a whimper like what Hee Haw did after it's 20+ years on the air.
 
Why do you want Simpsons to go away, so that time slot can be used for more crap like "The War At Home"? Please. Enough good shows have had trouble staying on Fox (Arrested Development, Family Guy, etc.), let's let them keep around the one good show they've always seemed to want to.

Many think Simpsons has already "jumped the shark" sometime in the past several years. I agree it's not what it was in it's mid-90's halcyon days, but I also think it's improved from its low point around 1999 and should stay on the air for as long as the people who want to do it want to do it.

The show has enough of a devoted cult following that I don't think it would ever be allowed to ignominiously fade away a la "All In the Family/Archie Bunker's Place" or "Married With Children".
 
The Simpsons is one of the best shows on TV. It had some rough spots but it has really hit the mark lately.

MarcB said:
Am i the only one on the planet that liked War at Home?

I think there are about 20 other people, most of who work for Fox.
 
I love the Simpsons, but the last 3-4 years have been really subpar. Nowdays, an episode might get one or two chuckles out of me. They've really been recycling storylines lately (how many times can they make over Moe's bar?). It's time for it to go before there's more bad episodes than good ones.
 
Yeziknoradio said:
I kinda liked the Animation Domination Sunday night thing myself...

That was pretty cool too. If I was programming FOX on Sunday's I'd give 7PM-8PM back to the local stations since everything in that timeslot if pre-empted for 16 or 17 weeks for NFL Games. Then I'd do Animation Domination.

8PM The Simpsons
830 King of the Hill
9PM Family Guy
930PM American Dad

I would need to find somehere to stick War at Home.
 
But what about the return of Futurama????

Hey, I know the new MYTV could have it's dramas on weeknights and have animation either all weekend or one night a week
 
Part of the problem is that is that The Simpsons is getting worse but it is still so much better than anything else. It's really more of a testiment to the mediocracy of the rest of TV shows out there.

Another thing is the writers of the Simpsons are spaced, so there are glaring continuity problems. We keep seeing "Homer and Marge" have a fight episodes, way too close together.

Simpsons are NOT developing supporting characters anymore. We have seen Moe go from supporting to having many episodes around him, yet Lenny and Carl have yet to have any mention of development. Likewise we've had TWO episodes of the dog having puppies yet not one episode of the cat. A flashback episode of Snowball I getting run over would be ideal.

Another issue is the writers refuse to accept critical words but instead mock the audience they should be trying to hold. Condesention is a dangerous thing.

For instance on http://snpp.com (the homesite of the Simpson's episodes) and on usenet, people complain the writers are repeating themselves. Instead of accepting this as a valid critisism, we find an episode where Lisa says "Well when you've been around a long time you're bound to repeat yourself." (not a direct quote)

This is not only unfunny but untrue. In the old days when Lucy repeated herself or Bewitched did the same episode there were valid reasons. But today databases of Simpson's Episodes are accessable by ANYONE, including the writers. Simply buy searching Google Groups they could tell in 10 secons whether an idea was used before or not. The writers are choosing NOT to do this.

There are tons of unexplored ideas but the writers and producers are using same old ideas and formulas. Do we really need the pattern of the "B" plot coming first, then the "A" plot then the "merge" the resolution of the "A" plot and sometimes "b" plot resolution. How about mixing it up and having a "A" plot all the way through. And stop playing coy to the audience. Smugness, which the writers THINK is cute only will work so often and it's played out.
 
brian77 said:
I love the Simpsons, but the last 3-4 years have been really subpar. Nowdays, an episode might get one or two chuckles out of me. They've really been recycling storylines lately (how many times can they make over Moe's bar?). It's time for it to go before there's more bad episodes than good ones.

Really?
Give me an example of how it is "not" as good?
 
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Give me an example of how it is "not" as good?
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Of course, good a relative term and different for each person. I just find myself laughing less at newer episodes compared with the classic years of the early ninties. From snpp.com, here's an example of a recycled storyline:

Mommie Beerest (#GABF01 / SI-1601) 30 Jan 2005 When the health inspector, an old friend of Moe's, dies, his replacement is not as lenient with Moe, and orders it shut down unless Moe can make a long and expensive list of repairs. Homer, who just paid off his mortgage, decides to re-mortgage his house to pay for the repairs. However, when Marge finds out, she becomes Moe's business partner, and decides to turn the bar into a British pub, which becomes a success.

Homer the Moe (#CABF20 / SI-1220) 18 Nov 2001 After Moe heads for a bartending school to brush up his business skills, Homer is charged with keeping tabs on Springfield's premiere watering hole. But when Moe decides to make his tavern over into something more hip and modern, a disgruntled Homer opens his own bar in the Simpson family garage. Guest stars R.E.M.

Flaming Moe's (#8F08) 21 Nov 1991 Homer helps invent the hottest drink in Springfield. However, when Moe steals the recipe and turns Moe's Tavern into the hottest spot in Springfield, Homer vows revenge. Guest stars Catherine O'Hara and the Rock band Aerosmith.
 
Of course, good a relative term and different for each person. I just find myself laughing less at newer episodes compared with the classic years of the early ninties. From snpp.com, here's an example of a recycled storyline:

Mommie Beerest (#GABF01 / SI-1601) 30 Jan 2005 When the health inspector, an old friend of Moe's, dies, his replacement is not as lenient with Moe, and orders it shut down unless Moe can make a long and expensive list of repairs. Homer, who just paid off his mortgage, decides to re-mortgage his house to pay for the repairs. However, when Marge finds out, she becomes Moe's business partner, and decides to turn the bar into a British pub, which becomes a success.

Homer the Moe (#CABF20 / SI-1220) 18 Nov 2001 After Moe heads for a bartending school to brush up his business skills, Homer is charged with keeping tabs on Springfield's premiere watering hole. But when Moe decides to make his tavern over into something more hip and modern, a disgruntled Homer opens his own bar in the Simpson family garage. Guest stars R.E.M.

Flaming Moe's (#8F08) 21 Nov 1991 Homer helps invent the hottest drink in Springfield. However, when Moe steals the recipe and turns Moe's Tavern into the hottest spot in Springfield, Homer vows revenge. Guest stars Catherine O'Hara and the Rock band Aerosmith.

I'm still confused. Not of what you write, but what the writers wrote.
Moe: "If business doesn't pick up I'm turning this place into a gay bar"
(not sure what episode that was)
It was funny seeing a "gay" person get up...look around and say "it's not?" and leave.
A future episode suddenly shows a gay bar across the street...now what was stopping Moe from owning it? (or both?...an episode with a "stressed out Moe" trying to run both bars would have been good...)
 
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