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Will there be Christmas this year on the radio.

WROR would have been christmas by now if WODS was still on the air but its not

so there is no reason for WROR too continue the trend just sprinkle the songs in here and there
 
Give it a week, somebody will flip...

I'm surprised 99.1 WPLM/Plymouth hasn't jumped on it yet. As far as I know, no stations in Boston, Providence, or Cape Cod have flipped yet.

Jacko
 
Jacko said:
Give it a week, somebody will flip...

I'm surprised 99.1 WPLM/Plymouth hasn't jumped on it yet. As far as I know, no stations in Boston, Providence, or Cape Cod have flipped yet.

Jacko

Yeah, WCIB 101.9 and WPLM 99.1 should flip to Christmas Music soon, I am guessing a week from now, and if not maybe on Thanksgiving.
 
WPLM has a tradition of the "12 Days of Christmas," so I'm guessing they won't flip until 12/13 as they usually do.
 
It was a fad that was beginning to wear off (extended weeks of nothing but Christmas music). In the past (before the advent of all Christmas formatics), a nice sprinkling of Christmas music was great after Thanksgiving, with more as time went on until Christmas Day. But a steady diet of it was beginning to get tiresome, at least to me. It took away from the "special feeling" that comes with Christmas music. I'm sure that ever since WODS went CHR, and more than likely WODS will not be going all Christmas as it had in the past, WROR has no incentive to try to beat another station's FIRST jump to all Christmas music. 'ROR pretty much inherited all of 'ODS's former audience. I'm sure they will go all Christmas eventually. But right now, let's just get through Thanksgiving, shall we...... ? If you REALLY need some Christmas music NOW, there's plenty of it on-line or on WODS HD3. After Christmas, WODS really ought to put pre-Beatles and 60's and 70's oldies on their HD3. I do miss Oldies 103.3.
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
It was a fad that was beginning to wear off (extended weeks of nothing but Christmas music). In the past (before the advent of all Christmas formatics), a nice sprinkling of Christmas music was great after Thanksgiving, with more as time went on until Christmas Day. But a steady diet of it was beginning to get tiresome, at least to me. It took away from the "special feeling" that comes with Christmas music. I'm sure that ever since WODS went CHR, and more than likely WODS will not be going all Christmas as it had in the past, WROR has no incentive to try to beat another station's FIRST jump to all Christmas music. 'ROR pretty much inherited all of 'ODS's former audience. I'm sure they will go all Christmas eventually. But right now, let's just get through Thanksgiving, shall we...... ? If you REALLY need some Christmas music NOW, there's plenty of it on-line or on WODS HD3. After Christmas, WODS really ought to put pre-Beatles and 60's and 70's oldies on their HD3. I do miss Oldies 103.3.

But the all-Christmas format meant big ratings and big bucks for WODS. I realize that the PPMs record a lot of captive-audience listening -- not all shoppers in places that had WODS on as background music wanted to hear Christmas music, but the PPM doesn't measure intent -- but still, the advertisers were the driving force behind starting the format earlier and earlier. What changed in the course of one year other than WODS' switch from classic hits to CHR? I hate to be a Johnny One Note on this, but as an impartial outsider, I just don't get an otherwise smart radio corporation like CBS relegating a very successful seasonal format to a basically phantom medium like HD Radio. If some of the WBMX advertisers bail at the first hint of "Feliz Navidad," won't the advertisers who used to pay through the nose to be heard on WODS every year more than pick up the slack. And who really believes 'BMX would lose its listeners for good after six or seven weeks of Christmas? Yeah, yeah, Karson says it's not happening, but radio management often keeps the jocks in the dark about permanent format changes. Why shouldn't the programming suits at CBS Boston be able to do the same thing with a Christmas flip at 'BMX? Still expecting 'BMX to flip here...
 
CTListener said:
but still, the advertisers were the driving force behind starting the format earlier and earlier.
So are the advertisers more concerned with having Christmas music on in their stores, or in listeners' homes and cars? I would expect that it's the latter, since the objective is to get consumers into the stores (retailers could always pipe XMAS music in if needed). Otherwise, using an HD subchannel would make sense, as it's short money for the store to add an HD tuner to their sound system.
 
Yes I have one of those HD portables and use it once in awhile. Actually you don't need one in some cases--the HD extra stations streamcast and if you have a smartphone you can get them via those URLs or go to something like TuneIn.com, click local, and find "Irish 96.9"

Maybe they're counting on more cars to offer HD...standard or a higher priced option, though?
HD was pitched as high quality audio; if anything you could get AM stations with no static, fading, or interference (the stations that were put onto the HD2 or HD3 of an FM). Extra stations..
all blues! Nothing but the 70s! Country oldies, etc. So yes I got one and do hear it on occasion.
Good FM reception but of course if you're just a little bit far from the main signal of WKLB, etc.,
your HDs won't come in.

Sometimes a station would "move" to HD---for example in RI and CA where a college station made
a deal with someone to put a classical station on their freq (in CA a rock station took the former
freq of the classical one), and the college station would go away--oh but they're on the Web
AND on an HD 2 etc
 
I think 96.1 WSRS might be going all-Christmas this morning. They said they have a BIG announcement coming up at 9:00, and today is November 15, so this is when they've done it in the past, AND they usually make the flip at 9:00 AM.
 
Turns out the announcement was something completely different. It was for a Hurricane Sandy Relief Benefit Concert at Madison Square Garden on 12/12/12. Go figure.
 
All Xmas was and is a horrible programming idea. I know, its all about the money. But to change a station's format for almost a third of the year is absurd. I hope the tradition fades away and stations go back to playing occasional Xmas tunes as part of their regular format.
 
ned said:
All Xmas was and is a horrible programming idea. I know, its all about the money. But to change a station's format for almost a third of the year is absurd. I hope the tradition fades away and stations go back to playing occasional Xmas tunes as part of their regular format.

6 weeks isn't a third of a year. It's a little more than a tenth.
 
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