Being one of the few HD radio owners, I wonder if 94.7 will go HD. Considering WEBE 108 used to have HD in 2010 and didn't have it after 2011, and the other Cumulus stations not having HD, I doubt 94.7 goes HD. If it does, the HD side bands will interfere with the main in the urban canyon of NYC. Cumulus seems to know the drawbacks of HD. 94.5 WPST is currently owned by Goldman Sachs, and they will eventually sell it. If Cumulus buys 94.5 in the future, they won't want to cannibalize its signal in most of central NJ. I want to continue to be able to hear 94.5 PST in Manhattan and 94.9 WJJF in NJ.
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Will WFME get an HD transmitter?
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Cumulus has used HD on their FMs - notably in Atlanta (+ other markets) they've been known to put HD2 + HD3 signals on analog translators. Of course that won't happen in NYC.
Other than the local stations mentioned, WFAS-FM is in HD (most of the time) and WPLJ (inherited from Citadel) is in HD (HD2 is Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel; HD3 is a delayed simulcast of WABC).
WDVY Mount Kisco is not in HD.
Other than the local stations mentioned, WFAS-FM is in HD (most of the time) and WPLJ (inherited from Citadel) is in HD (HD2 is Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel; HD3 is a delayed simulcast of WABC).
WDVY Mount Kisco is not in HD.
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I say its about a 50 % chance 94.7 will go HD. If they do they could well put Family Radio on HD-2 maybe.
I doubt that is at the top of the "to do list".
Can't a non-comm translator owner like Family Radio just feed their translators directly via satellite or other means? That's why many of their translators repeat KEAR. Running Family Radio on a HD2 seems unnecessary, and Cumulus probably would not want that baggage, unless Family Radio was paying rent. In any case, it sounds like WDVY/Mount Kisco will be Family Radio's new base of operations in the NY area for the time being.
As for the purchase price, it was what it was due to the limited signal.
If Cumulus wants to put the considerable time and cost into upgrading 94.7 (if it's even possible), they will pay $8-$10 million more to Family Radio. When you add it all up, it looks like a pretty reasonable price when you look at the WQXR/WCAA and WRXP deals as comps.
As for the purchase price, it was what it was due to the limited signal.
If Cumulus wants to put the considerable time and cost into upgrading 94.7 (if it's even possible), they will pay $8-$10 million more to Family Radio. When you add it all up, it looks like a pretty reasonable price when you look at the WQXR/WCAA and WRXP deals as comps.
One can only feed a translator directly if there are A) a noncomm entity and B) the translators in question are below 92MHz.
If the translator is 92MHz and above, it has to be fed from an off air source. The difference is that a noncomm station can own them outside of their protected contour. They can daisy chain them if need be (been there, doing that). But still can't plop a satellite receiver in and go. Noncomms can feed translators above 92MHz, but commercial stations can't do it the other way around.
A commercial station can't own a translator outside of their protected contour. A 3rd party can rebroadcast them, however, as long as money does not change hands. The translator owner can sell 1 :30 per hour to "fund" the operations of the translator.
If the translator is 92MHz and above, it has to be fed from an off air source. The difference is that a noncomm station can own them outside of their protected contour. They can daisy chain them if need be (been there, doing that). But still can't plop a satellite receiver in and go. Noncomms can feed translators above 92MHz, but commercial stations can't do it the other way around.
A commercial station can't own a translator outside of their protected contour. A 3rd party can rebroadcast them, however, as long as money does not change hands. The translator owner can sell 1 :30 per hour to "fund" the operations of the translator.
WNTIRadio said:
Right. In theory, that's how Jukebox Radio claimed they fed their 103.1 translator in Fort Lee, NJ. Originated at 99.7 in Monticello, took a hop via 94.3 in Pomona, NY...then on to Fort Lee...all "off air" pickups. Not sure that was actually happening, but that's another tale.
So, bottom line w/Family is that they can feed any translators below 92 MHz from the bird and above 92 MHz has to be an off-air pickup of some sort?
So, need all non-com satelators be in the reserved band?
Reach FM used to translate their main (non-com) Florida station all across the band hundreds of miles away.
They now feed the commercial band translators with HD sub-channels on commercial stations throughout the state.
I thought they were doing this so they could run actual commercials on their commercial band translators (and air local traffic/weather).
Reach FM used to translate their main (non-com) Florida station all across the band hundreds of miles away.
They now feed the commercial band translators with HD sub-channels on commercial stations throughout the state.
I thought they were doing this so they could run actual commercials on their commercial band translators (and air local traffic/weather).
Yes, they can OWN the translators and as long as there is an off air way to feed them (analog or HD-Whatever) it's okay when they're in the commercial band. This is only IF the primary is a non-commercial station. Doesn't matter if the non-comm is in the reserved band or not as the primary, just has to be licensed as a non-comm.
My guess is they were daisy chaining them to get across the state. The advent of HD has allowed them to feed them with cleaner signals and turn most of them into fill in translators.
My guess is they were daisy chaining them to get across the state. The advent of HD has allowed them to feed them with cleaner signals and turn most of them into fill in translators.
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MickeyD
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ai4i said:
That was going to be my question.
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