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WINF (101.9) now has interference caused WNKO (101.7)

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jhc2010

WINF-LP Delaware 101.9 FM, which was listenable on the way up 315 from Henderson Rd to I-270 a few weeks ago now is experiencing interference from the WNKO move in at 101.7 FM.

I am aware that WINF's coverage area is much more than the average LP, but the station received a good deal of interference during my drive home today to Dublin. Before, WINF would be listenable with no static the entire drive, but now the whole time it had a decent amount of interference making listening for a lengthy period of time impossible.

Does WINF need to find a new spot on the dial since many listeners in Southern Delaware County will experience this interference?

If so, what are some options for the LP station? 94.1 FM?
 
jhc2010 said:
WINF-LP Delaware 101.9 FM, which was listenable on the way up 315 from Henderson Rd to I-270 a few weeks ago now is experiencing interference from the WNKO move in at 101.7 FM.

I am aware that WINF's coverage area is much more than the average LP, but the station received a good deal of interference during my drive home today to Dublin. Before, WINF would be listenable with no static the entire drive, but now the whole time it had a decent amount of interference making listening for a lengthy period of time impossible.

Does WINF need to find a new spot on the dial since many listeners in Southern Delaware County will experience this interference?

If so, what are some options for the LP station? 94.1 FM?
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WNKO's interference is legal in the FCC's eyes. WINF-LP for years has had more distance than they should. Just look at the LPFM on 102.1 .. It does not go nearly as far as WINF has in signal and both are 100 watt ERP max as LPFMs.

Isn't 94.1 the frequency that Wilks applied to move the WHOK Translator that was on 102.3 to?
 
Yes, the Wilkes translator on 94.1 was approved on October 27 of last year. Saga decided not to
continue to fight it.. In fact, just looked that up a couple of hours ago. Was curious if the FCC
granted them a CP for 94.1 and they did.
 
I e-mailed WINF on their website and received this as a response:

"Thanks for letting us know. we are looking at other frequency's as we speak"
 
WNKO-FM said they are not concerned with the interference they are receiving from WINF-LP.

How come WINF-LP didn't change frequencies three years ago when WNKO-FM was granted a CP to move into Columbus?

Will WINF-LP have to pay out of pocket the cost of their proposed frequency chance or will WNKO-FM pay for the move?
They will at least have to pay a broadcast consultant for a frequency search.
 
gabigley1 said:
WNKO-FM said they are not concerned with the interference they are receiving from WINF-LP.

How come WINF-LP didn't change frequencies three years ago when WNKO-FM was granted a CP to move into Columbus?

Will WINF-LP have to pay out of pocket the cost of their proposed frequency chance or will WNKO-FM pay for the move?
They will at least have to pay a broadcast consultant for a frequency search.
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If WINF wants to move.. It's all on their dime. My only concern is really how much interference is really happening in Delaware their COL? WINF-LP was and should NEVER be considered a columbus station so any loss of coverage down here should not be a concern..
 
Looks like the only possibilities are 99.3 or 107.1. Both would require waivers for an LPFM. One possibility would be to remain on 101.7 (assuming they're not interfering with WNKO) and then license one of those other frequencies as a translator. Ironically, the FCC has looser addjacent channel regs on translators than they do on LPFM's.
 
WNKK would not be entitled to protection from interference outside what would be the second circle which only makes it to around downtown Columbus. The waiver needed for an LPFM in Delaware would involve 2nd adjacent 106.7, not 107.1.
 
The owners of WNKO-FM don't appear to care about the current interference they are receiving from WINF-LP. Maybe if WNKO-FM had another owner, like Clear Channel, they would file interference complaints against WINF-LP.

The article was published in Radio World and mentions something about this very thing:

If I Were King of the Spectrum …
by Robert H. Branch Jr., 04.26.2011

11. Loosen interference mitigation criteria for LPFM stations fielding interference complaints for second- and third-adjacent channels.
In my professional experience, most such complaints are trumped up. Modern radios have practically eliminated the need for these protections, while new mitigation rules make it easy for an LPFM station to fall prey. A well-funded, full-service FM could bury an LPFM financially just by filing interference complaints, forcing the low-power FM to hire expensive professional technical and legal counsel to mitigate.
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The truth is, WINF should have been taken off the air years ago. The so-called "Delaware County Development Company" is a sham. Mark Litton owns DCDC and WINF, although he manages to hide that fact and will deny it if you ask him. Of course, he also owns WUCO 1270 and 95.1 WXVG FM in Mt. Gilead. The FCC prohibits the owner of a commercial station from owning an LPFM, but...well....
 
WNKO has a new promo running on just how big their new signal is. They list a few cities in their new big signal cover area and "Delaware" is one
of them. How is the WNKO signal in the city of Delaware? Is the WINF-LP signal interference pretty bad in the city of Delaware?

Noticed WINF-LP has now filed A new application to move from 101.9 to 99.3 here to avoid the signal clash:

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101427423&qnum=5070&copynum=1&exhcnum=1

This proposed frequency change may cause some interference to WRZK on 99.7. It will be interesting to see if NABCO files a complaint against the proposed WNIF-FM frequency change.

Looks like SonoSational18 had one of the frequencies right:

SonoSational18 said:
Looks like the only possibilities are 99.3 or 107.1. Both would require waivers for an LPFM. One possibility would be to remain on 101.7 (assuming they're not interfering with WNKO) and then license one of those other frequencies as a translator. Ironically, the FCC has looser addjacent channel regs on translators than they do on LPFM's.
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and jhc2010 correctly eliminated 107.1 from those two.

jhc2010 said:
107.1? Isn't WNKK on 107.1 with coverage spilling into southern Delaware County?

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WNKK&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
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"and jhc2010 correctly eliminated 107.1 from those two."
107.1 is still possible, but they'd have to negotiate a waiver with 106.7. WNKK would not be a factor up in Delaware. Not probable, but possible.
 
WINF (101.9) is clearly listenable in much of northern Franklin County and I'm sure has listeners in Dublin, Worthington, Westerville, and North Columbus.

On most days WNKK 107.1 is clearly listenable in these same areas.

If WINF moved to 107.1 and left their tower height and power the same, there would be two listenable channels conflicting on the same frequency which would probably sound worse than 101.9 does in these same areas.

WINF is really nice for listening to the Delaware County Fair Harness Racing for that entire week in September. They broadcast every race over the course of those five days. They also cover many teams from Southern Delaware County.

Here are their sports broadcast schedules from the past sports season which show that they do not only cover the City of Delaware.

Football (I only have the schedule beginning in October)

10/1 Olentangy Liberty vs Olentangy
10/8 Big Walnut vs Delaware Hayes
10/15 Delaware Hayes vs Hilliard Bradley
10/22 Olentangy vs Westerville South
10/29 Olentangy Orange vs Delaware Hayes
11/5 Big Walnut vs Canal Winchester

Basketball
12/3 Girls Olentangy Orange/Delaware Hayes
12/10 Boys Delaware Hayes/Mount Vernon
12/17 Boys Olentangy Liberty/Olentangy
1/7 Boys Olentangy/Westerville South
1/14 Boys Olentangy Orange/Delaware Hayes (change)
1/21 Boys Olentangy Orange/Mt. Vernon
1/28 Girls Olentangy Liberty/Olentangy
2/4 Boys Delaware Hayes/Big Walnut (change)
2/11 Girls Olentangy/Westerville South
2/18 Boys Liberty/Westerville South
 
Dave Sarnoff said:
The truth is, WINF should have been taken off the air years ago. The so-called "Delaware County Development Company" is a sham. Mark Litton owns DCDC and WINF, although he manages to hide that fact and will deny it if you ask him. Of course, he also owns WUCO 1270 and 95.1 WXVG FM in Mt. Gilead. The FCC prohibits the owner of a commercial station from owning an LPFM, but...well....
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just guessing, you might get your wish on this one!

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=27373
 
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