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DavidEduardo said:
Why is that? Poor soil or just alot of land area? ????
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WINK 1200 ON 50 KW CP?
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Why is that? Poor soil or just alot of land area? ????
New York is obvious. Most of those 14 in New York are in the City with the most population. And some of those stations have almost 100 year history, as with most 50kw elsewhere.ok walters said:
Because it was off in its own "peninsula", Florida had a flat terrain and little population. There was a lesser chance for interference to other stations. Then came the Cubans.
California did not always have a lot of population. South Western United States saw most of its growth after the completion of the Hoover Dam. Water distribution was everything, and still is.
(I like to say we have a "snow shortage" in Florida)
San Francisco was the hub of The west for a long time, initially, because of The Gold Rush.
I defer to David to fill in the blanks.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
540 WFLF is on the same 6 tower array as 740 WYGM. Hands down when 540 transmitted from the green swamp they had the strongest signal. at that time they covered the entire state from Key West to Pensacola along the coast and had a city grade signal day and night all the way into St. Pete.
WINK is now at 30kw days, pending some transmitter issues. The night remains with a 2.2kw STA that 1200 has had for many years.
There's an interesting (thread hijack) question. How mant FL AM's have STA's related to Cuban interference? I can think of five.
There's an interesting (thread hijack) question. How mant FL AM's have STA's related to Cuban interference? I can think of five.
I was in Bushnell mid-afternoon yesterday and WINK 1200 was listenable there; and as to be expected not near as strong as it is in St. Petersburg, but listenable nonetheless. With that reach, I had assumed they were already testing at 50,000 watts.
Didn't realize they had the temporary authority to operate at 2.2 KW at night, since at sunset, they totally disappear in St. Petersburg.
drt
Didn't realize they had the temporary authority to operate at 2.2 KW at night, since at sunset, they totally disappear in St. Petersburg.
drt
Due to board issues, I could not post yesterday, but WINK is at 50kw as of yesterday. The night signal goes southwest to protect San Antonio
HadYourPhil said:
I figured that they must have made the upgrade. I tuned them in while out driving yesterday and 1200 was coming in very clear here in Naples. The signal was about the same grade as their WNPL/1460 signal. If it were not for 1200's night time limitations they would almost not need 1460 here in Naples anymore.
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WFTL in West Palm Beach is also 50KW
50KW daytimers by market: There are 20.
Orlando Signal
540 WFLF great
740 WYGM Sucks
990 WDYZ marginal
Bay Area
820 WWBA Great
1010 WQYK sucks
South Florida
670 WWFE jammed by Cuba
710 WAQI jammed by Cuba
850 WFTL good
1080 WHIM marginal
1140 WQBA sucks
1260 WSUA sucks
1470 WWNN sucks
Jacksonville
690 WOKV great
1010 WJXL sucks
1320 WJNJ sucks
1530 WYMM sucks
1570 WVOJ sucks
Titusville
1060 WIXC sucks
Cocoa
1510 WWBC sucks
Ft Meyers
1200 WINK to early to tell.
Most of these are so directional the heritage 5KW stations have better signals.
Orlando Signal
540 WFLF great
740 WYGM Sucks
990 WDYZ marginal
Bay Area
820 WWBA Great
1010 WQYK sucks
South Florida
670 WWFE jammed by Cuba
710 WAQI jammed by Cuba
850 WFTL good
1080 WHIM marginal
1140 WQBA sucks
1260 WSUA sucks
1470 WWNN sucks
Jacksonville
690 WOKV great
1010 WJXL sucks
1320 WJNJ sucks
1530 WYMM sucks
1570 WVOJ sucks
Titusville
1060 WIXC sucks
Cocoa
1510 WWBC sucks
Ft Meyers
1200 WINK to early to tell.
Most of these are so directional the heritage 5KW stations have better signals.
Think the only non-DA is WOKV. I was there when it was the Big Ape. Loved that signal!
HadYourPhil said:
Phil, Since you've been out of the market for several years, here's an update to your info: As of about 3 years ago, Jacksonville has two 50kw non-directional daytime signals. At some point in 2008, what was 1320 WBOB (the old WVOJ, now WJNJ), upgraded from a 5kw to a 50kw non-directional daytime signal. (They're still a 2-tower directional at night with 5kw). Of course, because their transmitter sits on relatively poor soil away from the St. Johns river, AND they're on a much higher frequency, 1320 WJNJ has nowhere near the reach of the excellent 690 WOKV 50kw signal!
So now, "You've Had Your Phil"!
Regards, Dr. Davis
**Also a correction to tanner: To the best of my knowledge, 1570 WVOJ IS NOT 50kw! They do have a good coastal daytime signal in SOME areas because of their transmitter location near water in Fernandina Beach, but most of their inland signal is marginal.
tanner said:
Unlike many of the other Florida 50kw directional signals, WWBC only uses two towers for its directional 50kw pattern which I found to be quite impressive considering I've heard this station with a surprising local signal throughout most parts of Central and South Central Florida. Its signal in Orlando is marginal since it is required to protect second adjacent 5kw WBZW 1520 Apopka. Aside from its Orlando reception issues, WWBC's signal, to me, is quite good!
I can hear WWBC in Naples faintly most of the time. They boom in during the extremes of "critical hours". And, 1520 would be a first adjacent station.
More on WINK. I hope to have the former main 10kw transmitter all tuned up and ready to be the night/backup transmitter this coming week. Both transmitters are Nautels, BTW.
More on WINK. I hope to have the former main 10kw transmitter all tuned up and ready to be the night/backup transmitter this coming week. Both transmitters are Nautels, BTW.
HadYourPhil said:
Here's a reception report from this past Tuesday morning in Northeast Florida. Just before sunrise, about 6:50am in Jacksonville, with the line of darkness still present to the West, was getting a fairly strong signal from 1200 WOAI, San Antonio. At 7:00am, daytime power up time in April in SW Florida, 1200 WINK comes in very strongly, over riding and supressing the WOAI signal to a large degree. I would think that some early daytime WINK-AM reception opportunities should be even more pronounced at the beginning of May.
I can count on the good Doctor to keep me up to speed on AM reception. He's an old radio dog like myself...
'Twill be interesting to see where the "new" 1200 flies to.
'Twill be interesting to see where the "new" 1200 flies to.
Howdy, gang - I'm a little late with this post, but just as a historical footnote. Detroit's WDEE (now WLQV) never used all 12 towers for 50kw, and in fact the 50kw array was never licensed. It existed for the better part of 20 years on serial STAs. IIRC the DA-D 50kw used 8 or 9 towers and the 12 towers was used, KLIF-style, for 5kw DA-N. The array had chronic instability and eventually, through complicated negotiations with co-channel KSTP Minneapolis and WTOP in DC, new owners agreed to take down three towers and relax the pattern to allow 5kw DA-N with "only" 9 towers.
Think Detroit wins the award for most multi-tower arrays. The one that gets me is 1270 WXYT. Only a computer could have dreamed up that hodgepodge of towers!
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