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Winter I trends - GSP

And when I say "rock" I mean mainstream and hard rock but not necessarily stations like "The Planet" which is just straight up redneck. I know a few of the people over there at The Planet proudly proclaim Poe Mill as the old "home place" so I don't know whats up with that but I refuse to listen to that station.
 
clemsonbloke said:
And when I say "rock"  I mean mainstream and hard rock but not necessarily stations like "The Planet"  which is just straight up redneck.  I know a few of the people over there at The Planet proudly proclaim Poe Mill as the old "home place" so I don't know whats up with that but I refuse to listen to that station.
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I can definately agree with you about The Planet being "straight up redneck", but they aren't the ones playing groups like Mumford and Sons. It's stations like X98.5, who do proclaim to be the "new rock alternative". And I probably can agree that perhaps "rock" should be dropped from Alternative stations. I'm not a huge fan, but I kind of like Mumford & Sons and surely don't consider myself a redneck. It may seem strange but that style of music has more of an appeal to educated people than something like Tool, Five Finger Death Punch or even Creed (which sadly The Planet still plays), which even though are hard rock seem to appeal more to a "redneck" demo.
 
I don't care for X98.5 either because of the reason they're using "X" which usually, historically, has referred to my generation (Generation X). It made me think "Hey heres a station for us" and then I noticed they're playing stuff like that mumford crap and stuff from today. I quickly erased that preset and didn't look back. Had it been a real Gen X station I might have listened. Currently, as I see it, Greenville radio sucks and hasn't changed any with all these so called "experiments" happening on all these various stations, my 102.5 included.
 
clemsonbloke said:
I don't care for X98.5 either because of the reason they're using "X" which usually, historically, has referred to my generation (Generation X). It made me think "Hey heres a station for us" and then I noticed they're playing stuff like that mumford crap and stuff from today. I quickly erased that preset and didn't look back. Had it been a real Gen X station I might have listened. Currently, as I see it, Greenville radio sucks and hasn't changed any with all these so called "experiments" happening on all these various stations, my 102.5 included.
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Yes, the "X" moniker has been used for a lot of alternative stations. Not sure if it started with 99X or what. But I like the type of music they're playing so to me it greatly improved Greenville radio since there was nowhere to hear that type of music around here. Not really an experiment since it's following the Alternative "rock" format (and, yes, I agree that rock part probably shouldn't have ever been applied to any alternative station since generally they haven't played just rock since the format even started).

Not trying to be snide, but just out of curiousity, as a fellow Generation Xer, what kind of music do you like? Guess just mainstream rock? I would say that probably isn't covered in this area since you've got just the head-banging hard "redneck" rock on The Planet, the alternative on X and then classic rock stations. It's actually pretty difficult to find any straight mainstream rock stations these days as most are either Active (like The Planet), alternative or classic rock.
 
I guess you don't like Alternative, then (I would take that over GenX anyday), I can't imagine a name keeping me from listening to a station

Yes, The Planet is definitely redneck radio. Way more than the country stations. Interestingly, I think bluegrass has an interesting following - it has a good bit of higher educated listeners. You wouldn't think so, but I've known more that were that listened to it than weren't. WNCW plays a good bit of this stuff, and has a pretty eclectic, well-educated listener base.

I don't think the "X" moniker has anything to do with Generation X. It's just supposed to be "cool"/"edgy" sounding I think (just like a lot of CHR, AC, etc stations use "Q", "Y", "B", etc.).
 
Yes the "X" IN fact did have to do with Gen X, that all came out back in the 90's, I'm among that generation so I know. They were trying to appeal to us and our generation. If they're not playing any music from Generation X's era then they don't deserve the "X".
 
It's obvious that it's a sentimental thing. Using ''X'' harks back to the days of 103 X. For those of us who remember. BTW, what's up ya'll? ;D
 
clemsonbloke said:
Yes the "X" IN fact did have to do with Gen X, that all came out back in the 90's, I'm among that generation so I know. They were trying to appeal to us and our generation. If they're not playing any music from Generation X's era then they don't deserve the "X".
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They do play some '90s alternative ...mostly grunge for now, but they're beginning to integrate some more non-grunge alt as well.
 
GoldenAvenger said:
It's obvious that it's a sentimental thing. Using ''X'' harks back to the days of 103 X. For those of us who remember. BTW, what's up ya'll? ;D
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I think even 103X stole it from the likes of 99X. Seems quite a few alternative stations have used it over the years.
 
clemsonbloke said:
Yes the "X" IN fact did have to do with Gen X, that all came out back in the 90's, I'm among that generation so I know. They were trying to appeal to us and our generation. If they're not playing any music from Generation X's era then they don't deserve the "X".
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If that's what it meant (I have no idea, I personally don't think it's got any more meaning than Y, Z, etc) in 2013, X is no different than Q, B, Z, Y, etc. It doesn't symbolize anything, it's just supposed to sound catchy, like any name. The average listener doesn't read in to it, nor do they care. Alternative stations using the "X" name have plenty of listeners born in the 80s and 90s, myself among them.
 
It may not mean a lot to you but to a lot of us it does. We grew up being labeled that and initially rejected it and now its a term of endearment to our generation. Are you a Gen X'er?
 
I highly doubt 98.5 means anything by using the name "X" other than the fact that the other Cox Alternatives use it (Tampa, Jacksonville) and it's a "cool"/"edgy" sounding letter to use. I actually think your theory behind the history of the X moniker is interesting, and quite feasible, but I don't think that's the purpose of using it today. I *think* 99X was the first station to use that brand, back in 1992.

I don't think the average listener reads in to things like we as enthusiasts do. If people don't listen to a station just because of one letter in the name, which I find extremely unlikely, they're probably not going to find anything that suits them. Stations brand themselves with meaningless letters all of the time because they are catchy. B-93.7...Z-100...Y-100 in Miami signed on in 1973 but you could make the case they were targeting Gen Y from the name (which, coincidentally, they are now doing, but that wasn't the original purpose). I would think more listeners of today's Alternative stations are from Gen Y than Gen X. It's just a cool sounding letter. The X brand has worked in the past/present on other stations, so why not duplicate it instead of actually having to be creative? I'm not a Gen X'er.
 
See I am an X'er and at 39 I remember when in the early/mid 90's they were marketing the "X" to us. Yes these consultants definitely aren't enthusiasts and the ones from back then are probably not even in the business any longer. They see it as one thing but many of us remember it as a marketing tool to mean "our" music.
 
I think the 'X' may have indeed represented Generation X when alternative stations started poping up in the '90s and it's just been carried on. Don't think it means it anymore, although most of today's stations do play some '90s alt.
 
Right but my point is that it still does represent us X'ers, at least to us so we tune in. We tune in and then go "yuck, this isn't our music , we've been lied to!"
 
clemsonbloke said:
Right but my point is that it still does represent us X'ers, at least to us so we tune in. We tune in and then go "yuck, this isn't our music , we've been lied to!"
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But is there really any station that just plays music from Generation X (which I still maintain is both '80s and '90s if you look at the entire generation)? Just sayin'.

Anyway, I think everyone regardless of generation is going to have different tastes in music. I like what X98.5 plays, but respect that you don't. I'm sure there's plenty from our generation that for some reason like The Planet or even Magic.
 
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