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WINZ: Randi Rhodes in dispute with NovaM?

Uncensored said:
Actually, Dale, the idea that cc is holding onto the format in order to prevent it from being utilized by a competitor is not a theory, and it comes straight from those within the Miramar compound. In 2 of the highest Democratic counties in FL (Broward and Miami-Dade), where WIOD's ratings for their conservative-centric programs continue to decline, how come a progressive talk format is not taken advantage of with staff, promotion, etc., and given the opportunity to grab a share of the market that no other station can?
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But they are only doing this in select markets.

This sounds like a 9/11 conspiracy.
 
I am impressed with the new theory of "they took on AA" in order to keep it away from others and thereby kill it." It's insane, but I like it.
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I think GM did the same thing with The Car That Runs on Water (TM)

Are the ratings for Rush and the rest really on the decline? There's a few consultants on these boards that can break down the key demos, maybe they can chime in but Talkers reports Hannity's national numbers as being 13.25 million and he's only number 2 behind Rush.

Radio is show biz whether you like it or not and people don't listen to be lectured they listened to be entertained. I'm sure there are plenty college professors out there who are wonderful speakers, I've certainly known my share, but would they be fun to listen to on the radio? Probably not. Yes they have a point of view, they have facts and they have theories and they can verbalize them but can they make it entertaining to a mass audience? Not if they don't have the instincts that make good radio hosts. If all they can do is lecture then no matter what their political viewpoint is they will fail in radio and I'm sorry to say that Jerry Springer, Al Franken and Janeane Garofalo just didn't have what it takes.

On the other hand Thom Hartman is Number 10 in the nation according to Talkers (putting him ahead of Levin, Boortz and Gallagher) and Ed Schultz came in at Number 18. Randi checked in at Number 49 this year.
 
strangelove said:
On the other hand Thom Hartman is Number 10 in the nation according to Talkers (putting him ahead of Levin, Boortz and Gallagher) and Ed Schultz came in at Number 18. Randi checked in at Number 49 this year.
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That list is "subjective."

If you look at audience there is no way Hartman touches Levin.

Hartman being so high calls this list into question.
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I tuned in to WJNO yesterday to see if Randi was on, but they ran a message saying that they apologize, but they cannot bring the Randi Rhodes show to listeners, and that Sean Hannity will take her place. Then Hannity's show started. Seems like she fell of the face of the earth.
 
Chris_Rose said:
strangelove said:
Jose Lambiet has the latest. Looks ugly.

http://www.page2live.com/2009/02/18/radios-randi-rhodes-is-off-the-air-again/
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(From the linked article above)... When asked if her liberal rantings got her in trouble, Rhodes said: “You’d think they knew what I did at (the liberal network) Air America.”
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Translation: What a stupid question, I am Randi f'n Rhodes of course my liberalism was not an issue here.

Chris don't throw your back out reaching for all those straws.
 
WINZ 940 is an excellent example of what can happen to an otherwise viable radio signal in the hands of a politically compromised, right-wing loving, corporate behemoth like Clear Channel. They clearly do not care about this format or this station. Routinely I will hear long 5-10 minute stretches of DEAD AIR. Often, simultaneous unintelligible streams will air on & on uninterrupted. Clearly their studio is nothing more than a PC in a closet. It's obvious that Clear Channel is intentionally sabotaging WINZ! Much like they've done in other markets to similiarly formatted progressive stations, even those that were doing well in the ratings!

This would not happen if the station were in the care and management of a broadcaster who viewed it as more than just an asset (or a liability) on a corporate balance sheet. This exemplifies why the 1996 Telcom Act is bad for radio and bad for the public interest. Unfortunately, this is not something that can be fixed with a so-called "fairness doctrine". The 1996 Telcom Act needs to be repealed and the corporate radio oligarchy needs to be broken up and sold off to individual owners. A return to the old days of government enforced ownership limits is the only thing that can save our industry now!
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This isn't off base.
I've heard many of the same things on 940 when I am in the West Palm Beach area.
You can tell from the on-air product that CC considers this a stepchild frequency.

As for CC intentionally disinvesting in the frequency so that ratings fail, that's not off-base either.

Renda once ran a great oldies station in J'ville. According to posts on this N. Florida board, the station gutted all the jocks (sound familiar?), let the station run on autopilot, playing only 200-300 songs, put no promos in the station, etc. Just let it go on and on until few listened.
Then, the owners could point to it and say "See, oldies won't work here" when in reality, the station made it fail so it could put on some other format the younger PD wanted.

Shelving of programs often happens as well.
 
Didn't Randi have a contract with CC/WJNO that if her syndicated career failed she could come back and do her old local show? Or did that deal expire after a certain period of time? I remember reading something about that in the Palm Beach Post after Randi left for Air America.
 
Randi should go over the WFTL and take O'Reilly's slot. Unless she has a local no-compete with WJNO.
 
Here's a little mnore history about how a corporate radio group tried to kill AIr America by airing it, for a short time.

When Clear Channel added Air America to am 1530 in Cincinnati about 4 years ago, the people behind the scenes were openly hostile about the programming that didn't echo the Republican party line that they promoted on 50kw WLW and their other stations. After less than a year on a signal with not such a good local coverage but a great nighttime skywave, they pulled the Air America programming and declared that the format was not viable. Same thing in Columbus on a local am station with a relatively weak signal.

They did little, if any, off-air promotion, gave it little time to develop an audience, and put no effort into it, or identifying with the listeners who enjoyed the format by offering events and interactions with the hosts and getting involved with things that reflect the progressive values of the audience.

So when it's suggested that corporate giants like Clear Channel use their second or third tier signals to keep others off the air, there's plenty of history to verify it.

They may be smart enough not to try to pull the same crap in Portland where word of mouth, and a decent coverage area, helped to make the progressive talk station (am 620 KPOJ) too much of a success to try to pull the format. Has a good signal day and night, too. Elsewhere, the good old boys have been trying to kill the progressive talk format ever sing it started by co-opting it and declaring it dead before it ever had a chance to mature or find an audience in many cities. Or to develop an advertising base for it.

No wonder radio is dying when the people who control almost all of the licenses think they can bully the rest of us by only airing lies and hatred and bile and fear from neo-confederate puppets who get paid lots of money to shout their talking points over and over again. I actually heard pro-militia talk on WLW "amen, brother, the white people need to stand together and show this country what it's about!" (no kidding, as heard on WLW a few years ago.)

There's an unserved majority of American voters who are not being spoken to by commercial talk radio in most US cities. Which is why so many of us stopped listening to them. Even though the airwaves are still public property and, by law, are supposed to representing the "interests, needs, and convenience" of the entire community. Time to speak up to allow some equal time on the air for someone else for a change?
 
Goldilocks94941 said:
Here's a little mnore history about how a corporate radio group tried to kill AIr America by airing it, for a short time.

When Clear Channel added Air America to am 1530 in Cincinnati about 4 years ago, the people behind the scenes were openly hostile about the programming that didn't echo the Republican party line that they promoted on 50kw WLW and their other stations. After less than a year on a signal with not such a good local coverage but a great nighttime skywave, they pulled the Air America programming and declared that the format was not viable. Same thing in Columbus on a local am station with a relatively weak signal.

They did little, if any, off-air promotion, gave it little time to develop an audience, and put no effort into it, or identifying with the listeners who enjoyed the format by offering events and interactions with the hosts and getting involved with things that reflect the progressive values of the audience.

So when it's suggested that corporate giants like Clear Channel use their second or third tier signals to keep others off the air, there's plenty of history to verify it.

They may be smart enough not to try to pull the same crap in Portland where word of mouth, and a decent coverage area, helped to make the progressive talk station (am 620 KPOJ) too much of a success to try to pull the format. Has a good signal day and night, too. Elsewhere, the good old boys have been trying to kill the progressive talk format ever sing it started by co-opting it and declaring it dead before it ever had a chance to mature or find an audience in many cities. Or to develop an advertising base for it.

No wonder radio is dying when the people who control almost all of the licenses think they can bully the rest of us by only airing lies and hatred and bile and fear from neo-confederate puppets who get paid lots of money to shout their talking points over and over again. I actually heard pro-militia talk on WLW "amen, brother, the white people need to stand together and show this country what it's about!" (no kidding, as heard on WLW a few years ago.)

There's an unserved majority of American voters who are not being spoken to by commercial talk radio in most US cities. Which is why so many of us stopped listening to them. Even though the airwaves are still public property and, by law, are supposed to representing the "interests, needs, and convenience" of the entire community. Time to speak up to allow some equal time on the air for someone else for a change?
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Let me see if I get the point of this.

CC wants the format to fail, so they become the largest carrier of the product in order to kill it. BUT they were to stupid because in Portland, it succeeded and they decided to make money with it instead of kill it?

Oooooook... this makes sense to you?

Why not just ignore it?
 
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