WIP 610 AM: Not a good sports station in my opinion

[Jul]

WIP to me is not a good sports station mainly because of some hosts on the station dissing the callers at times. I don't like the way they treat the callers when the callers disagree with the hosts or when the callers say something stupid or not making sense about the topic they are talking about with the host . I don't get why the hosts can't accept the callers opinions. The Callers have the right to disagree with the hosts and the hosts should not go into a shouting match, argue with the callers and calling them names, back talking, etc,. The promos on 950 AM about WIP are dead on. The GM of WIP needs to realize that some changes are need on the station I don't care how the ratings because this is getting to be very annoying to some listeners and thus they are going to 950 AM because they will not get dissed when they call in to the local sports talk shows on that station. The guy talk format on WIP to me is getting old and bad and it needs to end now. Plus the station is not like WFAN in terms of sports news coverage. WIP is OK but it should be a better sports talk and sports news station. I hope that the hosts on WIP will not take this the wrong way but they need to know that you can't disrespect the callers and the listeners because that is not right. Without them, there would be no Sports Radio 610 WIP. You should accpect what they say to you on the air wether you like it or not.

 

[LocalRadio]

"WIP 610 AM: Not a good sports station in my opinion"

Julius, in my opinion, you do not have the knowledge, expertise or understanding to make such a sweeping statement. Here's why:

WIP is not now and has never really been a sports station. They are "guy talk," not sports talk. And "dissing," (your term) the callers is done to make entertaining radio. Talk radio is entertainment. Hosts on WPEN also "disrespect" some of their callers, by the way.

How boring life, literature and media would be if everybody was nice all the time. Imagine the Die Hard movies if Bruce Willis came to Los Angeles in Die Hard 1 and just went to his wife's company's Christmas party, had a great time and went home.

I, for one, am getting tired of your endless, broad-brushed sweeping condemnation of Philadelphia radio.

Are you banned from calling WIP? I would really like an answer to that question.

 

[yocco]

WIP is the perfect sports talk station for Philadelphia. It reflects the area very well. THe city with the most boorish, mean spirited, child like, and idiotic fans should have a radio station that is also boorish, mean spirited, child like, and idiotic. It surprises me that the station doesn't sponsor a "Snowball throwing at Santa" contest every year. Radio for losers by losers.

 

[Jul]

"WIP 610 AM: Not a good sports station in my opinion"

Julius, in my opinion, you do not have the knowledge, expertise or understanding to make such a sweeping statement. Here's why:

WIP is not now and has never really been a sports station. They are "guy talk," not sports talk. And "dissing," (your term) the callers is done to make entertaining radio. Talk radio is entertainment. Hosts on WPEN also "disrespect" some of their callers, by the way.

How boring life, literature and media would be if everybody was nice all the time. Imagine the Die Hard movies if Bruce Willis came to Los Angeles in Die Hard 1 and just went to his wife's company's Christmas party, had a great time and went home.

I, for one, am getting tired of your endless, broad-brushed sweeping condemnation of Philadelphia radio.

Are you banned from calling WIP? I would really like an answer to that question.

On the disrespect part, Not as much as WIP. I don't have to understand the business to give my opinion on some things. I give opinions as a listener to WIP, not from the business side. Yes, I don't understand the business part of radio and I have no knowledge, expertise or understanding of that part of radio and I don't want to but I'm not a fan of this guy talk, I just want straight sports talk without the hate, that's all. I will never call 610 WIP. Philly needs a sports station and WIP is not providing it, WPEN is. This time next year, WPEN will be breathing down WIP's neck in the ratings.

 

[mjdecastro]

"WIP 610 AM: Not a good sports station in my opinion"

Julius, in my opinion, you do not have the knowledge, expertise or understanding to make such a sweeping statement. Here's why:

WIP is not now and has never really been a sports station. They are "guy talk," not sports talk. And "dissing," (your term) the callers is done to make entertaining radio. Talk radio is entertainment. Hosts on WPEN also "disrespect" some of their callers, by the way.

How boring life, literature and media would be if everybody was nice all the time. Imagine the Die Hard movies if Bruce Willis came to Los Angeles in Die Hard 1 and just went to his wife's company's Christmas party, had a great time and went home.

I, for one, am getting tired of your endless, broad-brushed sweeping condemnation of Philadelphia radio.

Are you banned from calling WIP? I would really like an answer to that question.

On the disrespect part, Not as much as WIP. I don't have to understand the business to give my opinion on some things. I give opinions as a listener to WIP, not from the business side. Yes, I don't understand the business part of radio and I have no knowledge, expertise or understanding of that part of radio and I don't want to but I'm not a fan of this guy talk, I just want straight sports talk without the hate, that's all. I will never call 610 WIP. Philly needs a sports station and WIP is not providing it, WPEN is. This time next year, WPEN will be breathing down WIP's neck in the ratings.

Yep, the blue portion of the above quote pretty much proves the bolded part.

 

[Jul]

Yep, the blue portion of the above quote pretty much proves the bolded part.

What do you mean by that?

 

[Weezknight]

610 WIP's treatment of its callers is precisely the reason it is still around. When it was a nicey-nice sports talk station it didn't go anywhere. It wasn't until they started arguing back and forth with callers that it became very popular. I can' wait to tune in the next day after a bad loss for a Philly team, just to hear them argue with people about it.

IMO some of the callers they "diss" are also setups. I have always believed that half of Eskin's callers are planted just for entertainment purposes only. If they ever changed their way of doing things, I think that ship would sink.

 

[Kyle D]

IMO some of the callers they "diss" are also setups. I have always believed that half of Eskin's callers are planted just for entertainment purposes only.

I can tell you that isn't true for one second. I've worked at the station as a call screener. They don't need to plant calls, there are unfortunately more moronic people on Earth than you think.

 

[hotline joe]

"WIP 610 AM: Not a good sports station in my opinion"

Are you banned from calling WIP? I would really like an answer to that question.

On the disrespect part, Not as much as WIP. I don't have to understand the business to give my opinion on some things. I give opinions as a listener to WIP, not from the business side. Yes, I don't understand the business part of radio and I have no knowledge, expertise or understanding of that part of radio and I don't want to but I'm not a fan of this guy talk, I just want straight sports talk without the hate, that's all. I will never call 610 WIP. Philly needs a sports station and WIP is not providing it, WPEN is. This time next year, WPEN will be breathing down WIP's neck in the ratings.

Yep, the blue portion of the above quote pretty much proves the bolded part.

...and this is a classic board post! Simple, yet extremely effective and to the point.

 

[LetsGetSirius]

WIP to me is not a good sports station mainly because of some hosts on the station dissing the callers at times. I don't like the way they treat the callers when the callers disagree with the hosts or when the callers say something stupid or not making sense about the topic they are talking about with the host . I don't get why the hosts can't accept the callers opinions. The Callers have the right to disagree with the hosts and the hosts should not go into a shouting match, argue with the callers and calling them names, back talking, etc,. You should accpect what they say to you on the air wether you like it or not.

All your points, Julius, are why live talk radio (OK...live-radio-with-a-15-second-delay) can be so compelling. When you hear an opinion expressed that contradicts yours, you feel motivated to call in and reply.

The host, trying to stir things up, may even interject a contrarian position or pick a verbal fight with a caller. That's what he or she is SUPPOSED to do; that's what makes for a hugely enjoyable show.

God forbid that everyone should agree on everything. If that ever happens, be sure to listen for callers joining the host in singing "Kumbayah".

 

[wprt949]

why do we have to read this shit everyday ????


610WIP is fine Find a hobby julius

 

[Dancerev889]

as a former Eskin producer, none of the calls are planted. Julius, WIP is considered one the best sports stations in the country. It fits the area. WPEN sounds like a small college radio station trying to do sports. Imaging is horrible and the hosts beside Jody Mac dont sound like hosts in a top market station. You may not like Angelo or Eskin but they sound professional and crisp. Philly fans dont care about national sports, women's college basketball or college basketball for that matter except for tourney time. WIP like every other radio station is in business for one reason $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. and trust me WIP makes a ton of it.

 

[hotline joe]

God forbid that everyone should agree on everything. If that ever happens, be sure to listen for callers joining the host in singing "Kumbayah".

We already have this. It's called the Rush Limbaugh show. Why do you think they call themselves "ditto heads"?

 

[rdcuffpa1]

All your points, Julius, are why live talk radio (OK...live-radio-with-a-15-second-delay) can be so compelling. When you hear an opinion expressed that contradicts yours, you feel motivated to call in and reply.

The host, trying to stir things up, may even interject a contrarian position or pick a verbal fight with a caller. That's what he or she is SUPPOSED to do; that's what makes for a hugely enjoyable show.

God forbid that everyone should agree on everything. If that ever happens, be sure to listen for callers joining the host in singing "Kumbayah".

Sorry, folks. Some of us (myself included) just don't "get it". I have never liked argumentative radio. A case could be made that we've become an angrier, intolerant, rage-filled society in part because radio like WIP propagates and encourages argument for argument's sake. Like Mr. May, I suppose, I switch off stations like WIP after play-by-play programming and post game analysis is complete. The instant that call-ins begin, I'm outta there.

Does argumemtative radio make for good business? Perhaps. But I still don't have to listen. I'd much rather listen to talk radio from Australia, Canada, or public radio's own "Talk of the Nation". Much more civil than WIP and its ilk.

In other eras, a case could be made that argumentative programming doesn't serve the public interest that, at one point in history, commercial radio stations were supposed to deliver as part of their privilege of having an FCC license. Unfortunately, one can't use "public service" arguments nowadays to suggest that a play-by-play format provides more of a public service than enduring Mr. Eskin's insults or those of his callers.

Richard in Allentown

 

[amfmsw]

WIP is a fine station for the time and place.

Time being 2006, with AM listenership and audio quality limited, what are you gonna do with a 5k regional in this day and age? The great days of Tom Lamaine, Tom Moran, Dick Clayton and Nat Wright playing "Cash Call" are done.

The Place being a major market that's world famous for it's local teams' loyalties, and the spanking they get from fans when they perform poorly. It's a blue collar city, and WIP is a great Blue Collar Radio Station. When it comes to Sports in the Delaware Valley, I feel all men, those of privilege and wealth...and those of supporting a family and struggling to keep the kids in school and the car on the road, are Blue Collar. And the teams are the Working Man's Heroes. WIP let's this area's men vent in a free forum. It's a guy's station, not just a sports station.

And yes, I agree, that with a 50kw signal and some BRAINS, WPEN could cause erosion in 610's base

 

[Jul]

Sorry, folks. Some of us (myself included) just don't "get it". I have never liked argumentative radio. A case could be made that we've become an angrier, intolerant, rage-filled society in part because radio like WIP propagates and encourages argument for argument's sake. Like Mr. May, I suppose, I switch off stations like WIP after play-by-play programming and post game analysis is complete. The instant that call-ins begin, I'm outta there.

Does argumemtative radio make for good business? Perhaps. But I still don't have to listen. I'd much rather listen to talk radio from Australia, Canada, or public radio's own "Talk of the Nation". Much more civil than WIP and its ilk.

In other eras, a case could be made that argumentative programming doesn't serve the public interest that, at one point in history, commercial radio stations were supposed to deliver as part of their privilege of having an FCC license. Unfortunately, one can't use "public service" arguments nowadays to suggest that a play-by-play format provides more of a public service than enduring Mr. Eskin's insults or those of his callers.

Richard in Allentown

This is why Phily radio needs a "Sports" station. To me 950 AM is philly's only sports station.

 

[wprt949]

[Richard in Allentown
[/quote] This is why Phily radio needs a "Sports" station. To me 950 AM is philly's only sports station.
[/quote][glow=red,2,300]why should things be different because you want them to be ??? i thought you where getting xm for x-mas ????

 

[rdcuffpa1]

[[glow=red,2,300]why should things be different because you want them to be ??? i thought you where getting xm for x-mas ????

Good point...and what I *want* really doesn't matter anyway! I was only hoping to show that whether or not WIP is "good" is a value judgement. If they satisfy their FCC requirements and make an appropriate amount of money for Infinity, then everything else is of little consequence...but that doesn't stop us from talking about it anyway!

Richard

 

[Dancerev889]

Sorry, folks. Some of us (myself included) just don't "get it". I have never liked argumentative radio. A case could be made that we've become an angrier, intolerant, rage-filled society in part because radio like WIP propagates and encourages argument for argument's sake. Like Mr. May, I suppose, I switch off stations like WIP after play-by-play programming and post game analysis is complete. The instant that call-ins begin, I'm outta there.

Does argumemtative radio make for good business? Perhaps. But I still don't have to listen. I'd much rather listen to talk radio from Australia, Canada, or public radio's own "Talk of the Nation". Much more civil than WIP and its ilk.

In other eras, a case could be made that argumentative programming doesn't serve the public interest that, at one point in history, commercial radio stations were supposed to deliver as part of their privilege of having an FCC license. Unfortunately, one can't use "public service" arguments nowadays to suggest that a play-by-play format provides more of a public service than enduring Mr. Eskin's insults or those of his callers.

Richard in Allentown

This is why Phily radio needs a "Sports" station. To me 950 AM is philly's only sports station.

So if 950 is phillys only sports station why do we need another one. BTW WIP talks more Philly sports than 950. Also BTW the majority of people in this area only care about philly sports. So if majority rules which station is philly's sports station?

 

[Irishfl]

In other eras, a case could be made that argumentative programming doesn't serve the public interest that, at one point in history, commercial radio stations were supposed to deliver as part of their privilege of having an FCC license. Unfortunately, one can't use "public service" arguments nowadays to suggest that a play-by-play format provides more of a public service than enduring Mr. Eskin's insults or those of his callers.

Richard in Allentown

As far as regular formats are concern, almost no station serve the public interest, outside the people who like that format. I think as it relates to the things radio stations have to do, WIP is one of the better stations. For example conversations with Peter Solomon on Sunday mornings is there public affairs program for the week. Its live, takes calls, basically the show has authors on to discuss books. The show airs Sundays 6:00AM to 8:00AM. I think its a rather interesting radio program. Compared to most of the Sunday public affairs programs, that seem to be syndicated journals thats sounds like a paid advertisment.

Then ofcoarse various times thruout the year, they have onair auctions for various good causes. Such as a Harley Davidson signed by the eagles, dinner with an Eagles, as well as other sports memorabilial. Even Eskin, with all his flaws deserves some kudos for the charities he's raised money for thur WIP radio. At the same time, WIP receives little to no promotional publicity from there charity work. Unlike for example P&S and MMR(not bashing them) are currently for their camp out for hunger. So in my book, WIP is one of the better stations when it comes to serving the community.

And yes, I agree, that with a 50kw signal and some BRAINS, WPEN could cause erosion in 610's base

If it was all local, and all local talk maybe. Remember there was a 50kw signal sports station in Philly before. 1210, and WIP killed it.

This is why Phily radio needs a "Sports" station. To me 950 AM is philly's only sports station.

If 950 is Philly's only sports station, then how does Philly need a sports station?