Heard them play "Dog Days Are Over" by Florence + The Machine (my absolute favourite band). However, Florence is not a top 40 band, and I thought that Mix 106 is mainly top 40 stuff. Florence is mainly Radio 104.5's territory. Is this a move that WISX is making to keep listeners due to piss poor ratings?
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The song hit #11 on the Hot AC chart. I've heard it on occasion on my local Hot AC station. I'd be more confused if they played "Ship to Wreck" or "Kiss With A Fist".
What chrocket87 said. It was a decent enough hit to still gather recurrent/gold spins. (I've heard it on WSTW as well.)
As for "piss poor ratings," Mix is making more money than Radio 104.5, so it shows that the piss poor ratings don't matter so much as long as it bills well
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Why the ------- is everyone always on WRFF's case. We get it, you all despise Alternative and wish the entire dial was Hip Hop/Rap, deal with WRFF's continued NINE year success...
Aww now, Tyler ..... lol
I have no turtle in this race. In fact, I liked 104.5 a bit when they were 'Alice'.
Yeah, tor about a half-hour at a stretch, to be sure. But listening to them for such stretches of time was at the worst, different.
I'm neither a fan nor a hater of Alternative. (Again, in fact, I found some of WJSE 102.7 Atlantic City's songs outright FUNNY. WJSE was another of those half-hour tune-ins; it seems that every format gives me one-out-of-four songs with a hook.)
I'm saying that one doesn't have to be a 'hater' of WRFF to situate themself as a critic of the station's overall success. ClearHeart will do that chore for everybody. The station is * there *. Up in these parts it's one of the three loudest Philly stations with that signal. Enjoy it while it is still there.
I have no turtle in this race. In fact, I liked 104.5 a bit when they were 'Alice'.
Yeah, tor about a half-hour at a stretch, to be sure. But listening to them for such stretches of time was at the worst, different.
I'm neither a fan nor a hater of Alternative. (Again, in fact, I found some of WJSE 102.7 Atlantic City's songs outright FUNNY. WJSE was another of those half-hour tune-ins; it seems that every format gives me one-out-of-four songs with a hook.)
I'm saying that one doesn't have to be a 'hater' of WRFF to situate themself as a critic of the station's overall success. ClearHeart will do that chore for everybody. The station is * there *. Up in these parts it's one of the three loudest Philly stations with that signal. Enjoy it while it is still there.
Except no one said that, Oasis...er, Tyler. Pointing out facts is not bashing, or an act of someone who despises something.
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Tylerbreeze
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First: who is Oasis...er, Second: what facts are you pointing out, WRFF has great ratings and should be on the air to serve its listeners, and Third: who is bashing anyone, I have no idea what intent you are spewing.
9 years on air for an Alternative format? I'll call it a success.
It's successful because iHeart has watered it down enough to become a preset in the Q-Mix-Radio trifecta. The overlap on these stations is ridiculous, particularly for 1045 seeing how they position it as "alternative" but play enough banjo-pop and classic popternative to rival More or Ben. Driving home tonight, I stopped when I heard Nirvana, but hat to check out when they segued to... Florence (nothing against them really, I appreciate what they do and am rooting for their continued success). Also, their imaging is waaaaay more pop sounding than Alt. It's just tough when you head downashore and hear WJSE playing Against Me!, STP, Coheed and Cambria, and System of a Down, and then come back to town and hear more Grouplove and Lumineers, which don't *quite* fit in on Q or Mix... which is why 1045 is successful, 9 years and running.
Honest question... not trying to be snarky.
You say there's a lot of overlap between Radio 104.5/Mix/Q. Stuff like the Lumineers, Mumford, Twenty One Pilots, X Ambassadors and more that have legitimately crossed over.
My question... if a song starts at Alternative, but crosses over to pop, do you think Alternative radio should stop playing it? Because More FM started playing some X Ambassadors and Twenty One Pilots, should 104.5 drop them from the playlist?
Great question, valid question, tough question. Personally I'd say yes, drop 'em. They've taken on a life outside the format, so that's where they should live. The programmer in me says no- the original fanbase is likely at those alternative stations, it's what the listeners want to hear, so why not give the listeners what they want? Also, in cases like this, it's good for the cluster (Thanks Telecom Act of 1996!). It just makes it tough for narrow listeners like me to hear Twenty One Pilots and know they're being spun all over the dial when their spot on 1045 could be used for something not being played anywhere else (some New York Dolls, perhaps?... 
). I just picked up a dinky little FM transmitter adapter for my phone today so I think I'll survive
). I just picked up a dinky little FM transmitter adapter for my phone today so I think I'll survive I LOVE Radio 104.5- but I am young (19). I am huge fan of Florence. Their playlist isn't that large however. You can easily hear Ship To Wreck and Ride from 21 pilots at least 5 times a day on 104.5. But amongst the young college crowd (like myself) 104.5 is surpassing 102.1 or 101.1 by a long shot.
I guess 104.5 is what we can call "commercial alt", going alt, but not to the edge, plus, the 90's were 20 years ago.
They are still risking at some point, they played 21 Pilots or Florence before anybody else did, before WBEB, before WSTW, before crossing it to Q and Mix.
They are still risking at some point, they played 21 Pilots or Florence before anybody else did, before WBEB, before WSTW, before crossing it to Q and Mix.
Seacrest got dumped on Mix when Wired re-launched as AMP. Q102 got ri of it to be more live/local through the day (although from what I heard, most CHR PDs with the show forced on it hate it because it's too long winded for CHR... and most cut it back to as little talk as they can get away with.)
Mix is.... well... how iHeart runs Hot AC anymore. They're lucky to have a local morning show.
I don't mind Seacrest on a CHR provided it's A not in drive time and B the only show focused on celebrity gossip on the station. I'm just not quite sure why they're running the two back to back. That's not how they run it here. Mornings are local, middays are currently tracked out of Denver though they've been looking for a local host for months, afternoons are local, evenings are tracked out of LA, with Mario Lopez not starting until 10. What I don't understand is why iHeart staffs some of its stations and not others. For example, in late nights on 1190 KEX in Portland, they run Coast to Coast, as do many iHeart stations. Their updates at the top and bottom of the hour consist of an update from ABC news, a prerecorded weather report, some promos for sister stations, and a few commercials. Now, isn't Sacramento a smaller market? So why does KFBK have a local anchor reading local headlines but Portland doesn't?
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