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WJVC My Country Station on the air

Nick said:
There's also WOR Country and Go Country NY.
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I wouldn't lump internet-only radio streams into the same category as actual radio stations. There are a million websites that stream country music. There's nothing unique about either of these two.
 
Let's not forget WDBY, Kicks 105.5, in Patterson NY/Danbury CT. It has a decent signal in suburban areas north of White Plains, where there is less interference from WDHA 105.5.
I like the fact that Kicks plays some relatively older songs to add to the variety.
And for those few folks with an HD radio, New York Country on WLTW HD2 has some good personalities, as it carries Clear Channel's Country Road format. This is the only country station that has a good clear signal in midtown Manhattan, and much of the rest of New York.
And WALK HD2 on 97.5 is available to country fans on Long Island and parts of Westchester County and CT.
So while New York City still does not have a regular country station. there are at least quite a few more choices than there were just a few years ago.
I'm hoping that Cumulus will switch WFAS 103.9 to country once it moves into New York, or at least simulcast Kicks on WFAF 106.3.
 
Barry said:
Let's not forget WDBY, Kicks 105.5, in Patterson NY/Danbury CT. It has a decent signal in suburban areas north of White Plains, where there is less interference from WDHA 105.5.
I like the fact that Kicks plays some relatively older songs to add to the variety.
And for those few folks with an HD radio, New York Country on WLTW HD2 has some good personalities, as it carries Clear Channel's Country Road format. This is the only country station that has a good clear signal in midtown Manhattan, and much of the rest of New York.
And WALK HD2 on 97.5 is available to country fans on Long Island and parts of Westchester County and CT.
So while New York City still does not have a regular country station. there are at least quite a few more choices than there were just a few years ago.
I'm hoping that Cumulus will switch WFAS 103.9 to country once it moves into New York, or at least simulcast Kicks on WFAF 106.3.
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The country format in New York isn't a money maker nor would it pull in substantial numbers. Caribbean programming is probably a better bet. WVIP doesn't fill enough of the void.
 
Jeffrey said:
The country format in New York isn't a money maker nor would it pull in substantial numbers.
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That's what everyone keeps saying, but that's based on old data (it has been 10 years since Y107 was deemed unsuccessful). Country music has become much more mainstream over the past decade. Country would work very well with the suburban audience (which is the only thing keeping WPLJ alive, and they have been around for decades). I think country would work much better than people think. Look at the increasing success of Thunder in NJ. The audience is definitely there. I'm sure all the people that think country won't work either don't listen to it or don't know anything about it. Although I don't think WFAS would be a good home for country since their signal into the suburbs would be limited.
 
ansky212 said:
Jeffrey said:
The country format in New York isn't a money maker nor would it pull in substantial numbers.
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That's what everyone keeps saying, but that's based on old data (it has been 10 years since Y107 was deemed unsuccessful). Country music has become much more mainstream over the past decade. Country would work very well with the suburban audience (which is the only thing keeping WPLJ alive, and they have been around for decades). I think country would work much better than people think. Look at the increasing success of Thunder in NJ. The audience is definitely there. I'm sure all the people that think country won't work either don't listen to it or don't know anything about it. Although I don't think WFAS would be a good home for country since their signal into the suburbs would be limited.
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I shouldn't beat a dead horse but since this is a discussion board why not....? I'm not a country fan but have sampled Thunder in NJ and MY Country 96.1 in Long Island. What it seems to me is that songs with lyrics like "she thinks my tractor's sexy" might not have mass appeal in NYC. NYC and it's suburbs are increasingly populated by immigrants so the demographics are in fact less favorable for the format than 10 years ago. Furthermore it would seem to me that since Thunder and My Country came on the air there would actually be less chance of a full powered NYC fm to flip to country since the primary areas where country might actually do well are already served.
 
Jeffrey said:
Caribbean programming is probably a better bet. WVIP doesn't fill enough of the void.
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But the "pirates" do :( . Drive around the North Bronx (around the Wakefield section) and you'll see what I mean :(
 
Jeffrey:

"I SHOULDN'T BEAT A DEAD HORSE" Sounds like your first country single, see you at the CMA's...
 
WKLB, Country 102.5 is now #3 in highly multi ethnic Boston. At 7.1 overall in the latest January PPM's , it is #2 among music stations, .
Boston PPM's: http://www.radio-info.com/markets/boston
The people in Boston don't seem to get upset about the occasional song mentioning tractors ;). Are New Yorkers that different from Bostonites?
 
Barry said:
WKLB, Country 102.5 is now #3 in highly multi ethnic Boston. At 7.1 overall in the latest January PPM's , it is #2 among music stations, .
Boston PPM's: http://www.radio-info.com/markets/boston
The people in Boston don't seem to get upset about the occasional song mentioning tractors ;). Are New Yorkers that different from Bostonites?
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I think the ethnic demographic argument against country music (or any type of music) is overstated. If people in NYC won't listen to songs about tractors, then why are so many suburban kids listening to songs like "Big Pimpin'" :) Heck, I'm a suburban guy that loves country music and the nearest tractor is probably 50 miles from me...LOL
 
Barry said:
WKLB, Country 102.5 is now #3 in highly multi ethnic Boston. At 7.1 overall in the latest January PPM's , it is #2 among music stations, .
Boston PPM's: http://www.radio-info.com/markets/boston
The people in Boston don't seem to get upset about the occasional song mentioning tractors ;). Are New Yorkers that different from Bostonites?
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Have you compared the demographics between Boston and NYC? Have you been to NYC? This is just a mute topic. There is no comparison between the 2 markets. Country does well in a number of northeastern cities but Boston is NOT New York.
 
ansky212 said:
Barry said:
WKLB, Country 102.5 is now #3 in highly multi ethnic Boston. At 7.1 overall in the latest January PPM's , it is #2 among music stations, .
Boston PPM's: http://www.radio-info.com/markets/boston
The people in Boston don't seem to get upset about the occasional song mentioning tractors ;). Are New Yorkers that different from Bostonites?
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I think the ethnic demographic argument against country music (or any type of music) is overstated. If people in NYC won't listen to songs about tractors, then why are so many suburban kids listening to songs like "Big Pimpin'" :) Heck, I'm a suburban guy that loves country music and the nearest tractor is probably 50 miles from me...LOL
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Hip, hop is marketed towards kids. Country on the other hand, while mainstream in today's world, is more of a "right" leaning genre with somewhat hokey titles and lyrics mostly listened to by less influential adults. For many of those reasons and more country doesn't appeal to New York nor to Madison Avenue.
If you can't get advertisers you can't run a radio station.
If a country music station in New York could make money, there would already be one. It's market number 1.
 
I'd hardly call Boston mult-ethnic. If you look at the demographic breakdowns and compare them to the NYC metro, it's completely different.

That said, I still think a country station COULD get both ratings and advertisers in NYC. Just nobody has the guts to do it anymore.

After 5/21, maybe we can get some people together to run "Country 94.7", since brother Camping is going to ride the white swan to the sky. Or sit there with a dumbfounded look on his face when nothing happens. Or turn the Bible upside down and start "decoding" it yet again.

The first song stunting shouldn't be a country song tho... Blondie's "Rapture" at midnight on 5/22.
 
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