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WLIB signal question
- Thread starter MattNC
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> I'm still a novice on the technical side of radio, and I'm
> wondering why is it WLIB is able to power UP at night?
>
Because they paid to have WOWO in Ft. wayne reduce power.
> wondering why is it WLIB is able to power UP at night?
>
Because they paid to have WOWO in Ft. wayne reduce power.
> Because they paid to have WOWO in Ft. wayne reduce power.>>
To elaborate, WOWO was a 24/7 50,000 watt station out of a small town for such a signal, Fort Wayne, Indiana, that reached most of the east coast & midwest at night. They made a deal with WLIB to reduce their power to 9800 watts at night. Once in a while I can still pick them up in Pennsylvania, but its rare. In the Philadelphia area at night WLIB is faint, too, and in the daytime it mixes with a station from Annapolis, Md, so their power really doesn't send the signal out like many New York AM's that reach here clearly.
Does anyone know, were they co-owned at the time of the deal or was it just a monetary reward for Wo-Wo?
To elaborate, WOWO was a 24/7 50,000 watt station out of a small town for such a signal, Fort Wayne, Indiana, that reached most of the east coast & midwest at night. They made a deal with WLIB to reduce their power to 9800 watts at night. Once in a while I can still pick them up in Pennsylvania, but its rare. In the Philadelphia area at night WLIB is faint, too, and in the daytime it mixes with a station from Annapolis, Md, so their power really doesn't send the signal out like many New York AM's that reach here clearly.
Does anyone know, were they co-owned at the time of the deal or was it just a monetary reward for Wo-Wo?
> > Because they paid to have WOWO in Ft. wayne reduce
> power.>>
>
> To elaborate, WOWO was a 24/7 50,000 watt station out of a
> small town for such a signal, Fort Wayne, Indiana, that
> reached most of the east coast & midwest at night. They made
> a deal with WLIB to reduce their power to 9800 watts at
> night. Once in a while I can still pick them up in
> Pennsylvania, but its rare. In the Philadelphia area at
> night WLIB is faint, too, and in the daytime it mixes with a
> station from Annapolis, Md, so their power really doesn't
> send the signal out like many New York AM's that reach here
> clearly.
> Does anyone know, were they co-owned at the time of the deal
> or was it just a monetary reward for Wo-Wo?
>
WLIB bought WOWO, reduced the power to upgrade WLIB, then sold WOWO.
It's not the first time something like this has happened. WOR some years ago bought a station in Little Rock, shut it down, and were able to change their night directional pattern.
> power.>>
>
> To elaborate, WOWO was a 24/7 50,000 watt station out of a
> small town for such a signal, Fort Wayne, Indiana, that
> reached most of the east coast & midwest at night. They made
> a deal with WLIB to reduce their power to 9800 watts at
> night. Once in a while I can still pick them up in
> Pennsylvania, but its rare. In the Philadelphia area at
> night WLIB is faint, too, and in the daytime it mixes with a
> station from Annapolis, Md, so their power really doesn't
> send the signal out like many New York AM's that reach here
> clearly.
> Does anyone know, were they co-owned at the time of the deal
> or was it just a monetary reward for Wo-Wo?
>
WLIB bought WOWO, reduced the power to upgrade WLIB, then sold WOWO.
It's not the first time something like this has happened. WOR some years ago bought a station in Little Rock, shut it down, and were able to change their night directional pattern.
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westlife
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> It's not the first time something like this has happened.
> WOR some years ago bought a station in Little Rock, shut it
> down, and were able to change their night directional
> pattern.
That was 1010 WINS, which took a station on 1010 kHz in Little Rock, AR off the air, forced 1000 WRNJ in Hackettstown, NJ to move to 1510 kHz, and negotiated an interference agreement with Toronto's 1010 CFRB, all in order to upgrade their signal pattern in 1995. As part of this change, WINS tore down their old four-tower in-line array (although the tower bases still exist and are visible in aerial photos) and built a new four-tower parallelogram array. Upon the debut of the new signal, WINS also discontinued broadcasting in AM Stereo.
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> WOR some years ago bought a station in Little Rock, shut it
> down, and were able to change their night directional
> pattern.
That was 1010 WINS, which took a station on 1010 kHz in Little Rock, AR off the air, forced 1000 WRNJ in Hackettstown, NJ to move to 1510 kHz, and negotiated an interference agreement with Toronto's 1010 CFRB, all in order to upgrade their signal pattern in 1995. As part of this change, WINS tore down their old four-tower in-line array (although the tower bases still exist and are visible in aerial photos) and built a new four-tower parallelogram array. Upon the debut of the new signal, WINS also discontinued broadcasting in AM Stereo.
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> It's not the first time something like this has happened.
> WOR some years ago bought a station in Little Rock, shut it
> down, and were able to change their night directional
> pattern.
>
WINS bought KRLA in Little Rock, 1010, and shut it down.
> It's not the first time something like this has happened.
> WOR some years ago bought a station in Little Rock, shut it
> down, and were able to change their night directional
> pattern.
>
WINS bought KRLA in Little Rock, 1010, and shut it down.
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> > > I'm still a novice on the technical side of radio, and
> I'm
> >
> > > wondering why is it WLIB is able to power UP at night?
> > >
> >
> > Because they paid to have WOWO in Ft. wayne reduce power.
> >
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
Inner City broadcasting which owns WLIB, bought WOWO with the intention of changing WOW's pattern/nighttime power, thus allowing the limited time WLIB signal to operate 24/7. After this change Inner City sold WOWO to another owner. I have heard WOW once since the change was made in a NY suburb. Prior to this change WLIB had to sign of at Ft Wayne sunset. After dropping WOWO's power and changing their nighttime pattern, WLIB was allowed to operate 24 hours a day. The reason for the higher nightime power has to do with who is on that channel post sunset. They do change patterns at sunset and apparently they don't cause interference to other stations running that power running the night pattern. Living north of NYC, I receive WLIB with approx the same signal day and night.
> I'm
> >
> > > wondering why is it WLIB is able to power UP at night?
> > >
> >
> > Because they paid to have WOWO in Ft. wayne reduce power.
> >
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
Inner City broadcasting which owns WLIB, bought WOWO with the intention of changing WOW's pattern/nighttime power, thus allowing the limited time WLIB signal to operate 24/7. After this change Inner City sold WOWO to another owner. I have heard WOW once since the change was made in a NY suburb. Prior to this change WLIB had to sign of at Ft Wayne sunset. After dropping WOWO's power and changing their nighttime pattern, WLIB was allowed to operate 24 hours a day. The reason for the higher nightime power has to do with who is on that channel post sunset. They do change patterns at sunset and apparently they don't cause interference to other stations running that power running the night pattern. Living north of NYC, I receive WLIB with approx the same signal day and night.
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