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WLIR/WBON/WDRE SOLD
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neo11 said:
I might have the term wrong, but co-adjacents tend to cause more interference if its .2mhz below than .2mhz above. Don't know how much if any factual basis their is to that, but just something I have noticed from my own personal observation. being a former Stony Brook student (though I hardly ever listened to 98.5) I would agree the signals are pretty similar there, however slightly to the west of there, Smithtown, Hauppauge areas, Lake Ronkonkama and so on Party's signal isn't as strong. Can still be picke dup in some areas, but is not the solid signal thatthe Bone generally has in and around this part of Suffolk, and this is where the population and population density of LI really starts to shoot up.
Great News!!!
Metter added that the company plans to move the signal tower for WLIR, 107.1-FM, west so it covers a greater part of Long Island.
"We hope to bring WLIR back to all of, or at least most of, Long Island, the way it was back when it was on 92.7," Metter said.
http://www.libn.com/breakingNews.htm?articleID=6657
Metter added that the company plans to move the signal tower for WLIR, 107.1-FM, west so it covers a greater part of Long Island.
"We hope to bring WLIR back to all of, or at least most of, Long Island, the way it was back when it was on 92.7," Metter said.
http://www.libn.com/breakingNews.htm?articleID=6657
The move west might help a little, in Central Suffolk, but unless there's plans to buy another station further west, like Island 94.3, WLIR still is not going to come close to covering even most of Long Island.
107.1 might just be the worst frequency to broadcast on in the tri-state area. You've got 107.1 The Peak which blasts across the sound into LI. There's 107.1 The Breeze which also carries well over water onto the South Shore, especially in points west. For listeners in parts of southern CT, there's the religious translator on 107.1 in New Haven and there's also WCCC on 106.9. A move west for WLIR really won't make all that much of a difference on such a crowded frequency.
107.1 might just be the worst frequency to broadcast on in the tri-state area. You've got 107.1 The Peak which blasts across the sound into LI. There's 107.1 The Breeze which also carries well over water onto the South Shore, especially in points west. For listeners in parts of southern CT, there's the religious translator on 107.1 in New Haven and there's also WCCC on 106.9. A move west for WLIR really won't make all that much of a difference on such a crowded frequency.
Maybe they are going to purchase 98.3 and simulcast party 105, so now they get city listeners, and are truly Ny's only dance station. I've noticed they have been saying this alot lately.
That would be awesome if it did happen, however, I don't really see Barnstable selling 98.3. I also don't think, unfortunately, that dance would get the numbers that K-Joy gets on that frequency, though with one more AC game in town (Fresh, which like every other full-power ESB station, covers all of Nassau very well), perhaps K-Joy's ratings will erode a bit. Time will tell.
None of those stations will be anything other than East End stations, no matter what they do. Moving 107.1 might add about 10 miles on the south shore, and fill-in between Port Jeff and Wading River more, but that's it. Bald Hill blocks a lot of the East End signals, and placing the 107.1 tower south of Riverhead means that half of the signal is lost over the ocean. Out of the Barnstable properties, 98.3 bills well, so they won't get rid of that. 103.9 has the same signal problems as everyone else out east, so that leaves the always underperforming 94.3, and that's a long-shot.
For some reason the 105.3 WDRE (Party 105) signal is terrible in Riverhead, anywhere north of Suffolk Community College and the signal sounds like it's being interfered with (multipath). Also once you get past Flanders (anywhere on Rt,24 east of Rt.105) WDRE fades out fast.
WBON does not seem to have this problem, same with WLVG or WRCN. I think they are all on the same tower, on Rock Hill off Rt.111.
WDRE comes in alot clearer in Shirley, some 10 miles to the east, than Riverhead, which is only 3 miles or so away.
I'm thinking it may have to do with the hills, Bald Hill (in Manorville, off Rt.51), and then there's some in Hampton Hills too (just NE of SCC).
WDRE still uses "Calverton-Roanoke", in their top of the hour ID. This was their old site and seemed to have a much better signal in Riverhead and in the northern part of Suffolk as well.
Tony Santiago mentioned awhile ago that when they moved their transmitter he actually couldn't recieve the signal in the Bronx anymore (yes, the Bronx of all places!).
The Calverton location had a much better signal across LI Sound. I remember being able to hear them loud and clear in St.James, but since they moved it's much harder to get a clear signal.
Rock Hill wastes most of the signal over the Atlantic Ocean, that's for sure.
WBON does not seem to have this problem, same with WLVG or WRCN. I think they are all on the same tower, on Rock Hill off Rt.111.
WDRE comes in alot clearer in Shirley, some 10 miles to the east, than Riverhead, which is only 3 miles or so away.
I'm thinking it may have to do with the hills, Bald Hill (in Manorville, off Rt.51), and then there's some in Hampton Hills too (just NE of SCC).
WDRE still uses "Calverton-Roanoke", in their top of the hour ID. This was their old site and seemed to have a much better signal in Riverhead and in the northern part of Suffolk as well.
Tony Santiago mentioned awhile ago that when they moved their transmitter he actually couldn't recieve the signal in the Bronx anymore (yes, the Bronx of all places!).
The Calverton location had a much better signal across LI Sound. I remember being able to hear them loud and clear in St.James, but since they moved it's much harder to get a clear signal.
Rock Hill wastes most of the signal over the Atlantic Ocean, that's for sure.
Well Calverton-Roanoke is still the COL for WDRE. That said, I'll agree that the signal in much of northern Suffolk seemed to be much better before they moved their stick further south. I remember the station having a nice crisp signal in the Stony Brook area that dissipated somewhat after the move.
Party was also busted two or three years ago along with WBON for their antennas being at a higher height than legally permitted, if I recall correctly. I believe after that they filed to reduce their wattage but kept their antennas at said height, but I may be wrong.
I do recall a recent post by Tony Santiago on another board saying he could still receive Party from the Bronx...perhaps a few weeks ago. Perhaps Tony can clarify if he reads this. I personally have been able to pull in a trace signal for Party until right before the Queens-Nassau border on the LIE, during non-tropo conditions. That's become more difficult with all the IBOC hash now from Power 105.
Party was also busted two or three years ago along with WBON for their antennas being at a higher height than legally permitted, if I recall correctly. I believe after that they filed to reduce their wattage but kept their antennas at said height, but I may be wrong.
I do recall a recent post by Tony Santiago on another board saying he could still receive Party from the Bronx...perhaps a few weeks ago. Perhaps Tony can clarify if he reads this. I personally have been able to pull in a trace signal for Party until right before the Queens-Nassau border on the LIE, during non-tropo conditions. That's become more difficult with all the IBOC hash now from Power 105.
It sounds like he had a pretty nifty apparatus including a directional antenna set up so that he was able to get a *good* signal. From what I could tell he was also doing this from a high-rise apartment building. The average listener wouldn't go out of their way to get such a station but it does sound like Tony was pulling in a good signal with his setup.
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Good article in the back of Monday's NY Daily News about the new owners. I hope they stick to what they said-keep the music formats on WLIR/WDRE. Sirius First Wave 22 is good listening but nothing beat WLIR.
Thanks for the info. Daily News article says LIR signal tower moving "25 miles closer to the city". Where will that bring the 107.1 signal coverage to? Could it reach the the Nassau Queens border?
Here's the article. I hope they stick to their word of breaking new rock bands.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/488723p-411614c.html
Here's the article. I hope they stick to their word of breaking new rock bands.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/488723p-411614c.html
The tower move has been discussed in this thread...it'll probably help more towards Central Suffolk county than anywhere else, but there's no way it could reach the Nassau-Queens border. Nassau has a real dogfight going between 107.1 The Peak and 107.1 The Breeze from NJ, and both would still put in stronger signals in most of Nassau county than LIR. I'm not even sure that LIR would make the Nassau-Suffolk border, even after the move. 107.1 is just a really crowded frequency and LIR is just a class A signal.
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