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WLJA Ellijay moves to 101.1 FM

jal41

jal41

Gospel station WLJA Ellijay has moved to 101.1 from its old home of 93.5. The 93.5 signal was recievable in the North Metro area (The old 93.5 was recievable in Cartersville and Canton, I don't know about the new 101.1 signal). It is the same license, so 93.5 is now vacant.

Does this have anything to do with a possible move in of WVFJ 93.3 Manchester or another station into Atlanta?
 
WSRM in Rome (CoL Coosa) is moving from a 6000W matchstick (72' HAAT) on 95.3 to a 1200W proper tower (741' HAAT) on 93.5.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WSRM&service=FM

I'm guessing that this would preclude a move-in or power-up of WVFJ due to separation issues.

At the same time, WMPZ is moving from 4900W (CoL: Ringgold) on 93.7 to 6000W directional (CoL: Harrison, TN) on 93.5. The purpose of this seems to be to city-grade more of metro Chattanooga and also avoid wasting a lot of power against the side of Monteagle, shooting it eastward instead (and also maintain separation with WSRM).

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WMPZ&service=FM

So, the move seems to be making way for a couple of other moves, but not in the ATL proper and not with WVFJ.
 
jabba17 said:
WSRM in Rome (CoL Coosa) is moving from a 6000W matchstick (72' HAAT) on 95.3 to a 1200W proper tower (741' HAAT) on 93.5.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WSRM&service=FM

I'm guessing that this would preclude a move-in or power-up of WVFJ due to separation issues.

So, the move seems to be making way for a couple of other moves, but not in the ATL proper and not with WVFJ.
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If WATG 95.7 Trion were to move frequencies (and whatever else is in the way to move as well), this could allow for WBTS 95.5 (the Beat) to go 100kW.
 
Actually, after speaking to the management at WLJA, the move was due to a station in North Carolina that wanted to upgrade their power. To do so, WLJA had to move their frequency. The new transmitter, and frequency change was financed by the North Carolina station. None of it had anything to do with Atlanta.
 
JohnAllan said:
Actually, after speaking to the management at WLJA, the move was due to a station in North Carolina that wanted to upgrade their power. To do so, WLJA had to move their frequency. The new transmitter, and frequency change was financed by the North Carolina station. None of it had anything to do with Atlanta.
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WTPT? http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WTPT&service=FM

It seems, though, even with the 100kW CP that they would have still had enough separation as is...even on the same frequency let alone on an adjacent channel.
 
The major separation issues for 95.5 would be the 3rd adjacents in Atlanta.... 96.1 which is a class C-0 and 94.9, a C-1. Current separation is 89km to 96.1 and 82km to 94. In order for 95.5 to upgrade to a C-0 which would theoretically allow a power increase to 100kw and/or the antenna to go a bit higher, the spacing would have to increase to 96km and 94km, respectively. My guess is that when the signal (originally a full class C, I beleive) was moved in to Doraville, that transmitter location was shoehorned in as close to Atlanta as possible and the 95.5 facility was downgraded to a C-1. Bottom line... the elimination of the 95.3 allocation might buy them some room to the northeast but probably nothing worth the expense of moving the sticks because they would end up moving farther away from Atlanta.
 
jabba17 said:
WSRM in Rome (CoL Coosa) is moving from a 6000W matchstick (72' HAAT) on 95.3 to a 1200W proper tower (741' HAAT) on 93.5.
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Since we're talking about a commercial ND class A, WSRM could have upgraded to the same 6kW/100m equivalent on 95.3. Even though they get a benefit out of the new facility, clearly they were trying to free up 95.3.
 
I wonder if Byron Dobbs has any idea what you're talking about.
 
SonoSational18 said:
trusty said:
jal41 said:
Gospel station WLJA Ellijay has moved to 101.1 from its old home of 93.5.
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How does this affect Kicks (Marietta - 101.5)?
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101.5 is a Class C-0 and same spacing requirements for 2nd adjacent to WLJA (class A) is 86km... roughly 60 miles)
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Because 95.5, 94.9 and 96.1 were all licensed prior to 1964, they do not have to protect each other. They are referred to as pre-64 FM allocations and basically can ignore each other from a technical standpoint.

Everything is already filed and public record from www.fcc.gov. WBTS has already filed for 100KW from the WSB-FM site. WLJA's move was part of complicated upgrade project for Chattanooga area stations but was also indirectly related to the WBTS 100KW application because it allowed the Coosa, GA 95.3 to move to 93.5 at a site much closer to Rome....that cleared 95.3 to be used for WHMA-FM near Anniston, AL which had been on 95.5. With WHMA-FM off 95.5, WBTS could get 100KW. The station at Trion is not involved.
 
A chief engineer for one of the station groups here in Atlanta told me that even though 95.5 doesn't have to deal with short-spacing issues, he expects the FCC to turn down the application as a practical matter. He said 94.9, 95.5 and 96.1 would all be fraught with interference.

Someone high up at Cox/Atlanta, however, told me The Beat's move into Atlanta definitely will happen. He said numerous studies have been done showing the move will not cause interference.
 
RoddyFreeman said:
A chief engineer for one of the station groups here in Atlanta told me that even though 95.5 doesn't have to deal with short-spacing issues, he expects the FCC to turn down the application as a practical matter. He said 94.9, 95.5 and 96.1 would all be fraught with interference.

Someone high up at Cox/Atlanta, however, told me The Beat's move into Atlanta definitely will happen. He said numerous studies have been done showing the move will not cause interference.
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The FCC must make technical decisions based on it's rules and the rules are that FM stations licensed prior to 1964 can ignore short spacings created prior to 1964. 95.5 being able to move is as certain as these things get. I think the biggest hurdle they have faced is the newspaper-radio station crossownership rule. I don't know enough about that matter to comment on it.
 
Art Sutton said:
RoddyFreeman said:
A chief engineer for one of the station groups here in Atlanta told me that even though 95.5 doesn't have to deal with short-spacing issues, he expects the FCC to turn down the application as a practical matter. He said 94.9, 95.5 and 96.1 would all be fraught with interference.

Someone high up at Cox/Atlanta, however, told me The Beat's move into Atlanta definitely will happen. He said numerous studies have been done showing the move will not cause interference.
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The FCC must make technical decisions based on it's rules and the rules are that FM stations licensed prior to 1964 can ignore short spacings created prior to 1964. 95.5 being able to move is as certain as these things get. I think the biggest hurdle they have faced is the newspaper-radio station crossownership rule. I don't know enough about that matter to comment on it.
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I'm not super-familiar with the details of the cross-ownership rule, but I would think that it would have raised its ugly head by now if it was an issue. It didn't stop Cox from buying 95.5 or 97.1 or 104.1 (or 960 and 106.1)...while none of those stations have a city of license of Atlanta, 95.5 wouldn't have to change its CoL of Doraville while moving in closer, and all of the first three stations are already considered Atlanta-market stations regardless of actual CoL.
 
I'm not super-familiar with the details of the cross-ownership rule, but I would think that it would have raised its ugly head by now if it was an issue. It didn't stop Cox from buying 95.5 or 97.1 or 104.1 (or 960 and 106.1)...while none of those stations have a city of license of Atlanta, 95.5 wouldn't have to change its CoL of Doraville while moving in closer, and all of the first three stations are already considered Atlanta-market stations regardless of actual CoL.
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I think you're correct. The Beat has been an Atlanta market station no matter what its city of license is or was. And Cox is within the limit for FM's (although they can't add any). Cox never would have gone forward with what has been a bunch of costly moves and changes to stations owned by Cox and others on nearby frequencies if the ownership limit was even remotely an issue. (I think even WALR's change in COL from LaGrange to Greenville (GA) was part of the complicated set of moves needed to get the CP for moving 95.5 into town.)

As far as cross-ownership with WSB-TV and the AJC, that was probably all grandfathered in. And it's not really the same ownership in that the TV station and newspaper are owned by Cox Enterprises, and the radio stations are owned by Cox Radio.
 
RoddyFreeman said:
I think you're correct. The Beat has been an Atlanta market station no matter what its city of license is or was. And Cox is within the limit for FM's (although they can't add any). Cox never would have gone forward with what has been a bunch of costly moves and changes to stations owned by Cox and others on nearby frequencies if the ownership limit was even remotely an issue. (I think even WALR's change in COL from LaGrange to Greenville (GA) was part of the complicated set of moves needed to get the CP for moving 95.5 into town.)

As far as cross-ownership with WSB-TV and the AJC, that was probably all grandfathered in. And it's not really the same ownership in that the TV station and newspaper are owned by Cox Enterprises, and the radio stations are owned by Cox Radio.
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WALR changed COL to Greenville because 95.7 moved from Greenville to Waverly Hall.

Didn't the cross-ownership rule go away after the FCC's decision last year?
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6513656.html

I wonder if Cox's purchase of Southern Broadcasting in Athens has anything to do with this. Athens, the original 95.5 COL, will lose coverage if the move goes through.
 
ssnake said:
I wonder if Cox's purchase of Southern Broadcasting in Athens has anything to do with this. Athens, the original 95.5 COL, will lose coverage if the move goes through.
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How so? Aren't they staying on the Chateau Elan stick with 97.1? I thought the plan was just to up the power to a full 100kW.
 
I wonder if Cox's purchase of Southern Broadcasting in Athens has anything to do with this. Athens, the original 95.5 COL, will lose coverage if the move goes through.
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That's not an issue since 95.5's COL is no longer Athens. So the signal now has to city grade Doraville but not Athens.
 
I guess Byron knows what he is doing since he now has WLJA pending at a Class C3 instead of the old Class A. I thought he would be upset about being forced to move from 93.5 @ 6KW to 101.1 but moving to 101.1 @ 25KW is a different story!

Good for you Byron!

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