Most evenings this time of the year, especially, I have been able to catch WLNG via troph openings here in Garden City, in central Nassau County. During the mornings, I could hear them really well...including the winter in the car. This year ('08) I have not heard them at all, or they were very spotty, both in the car and with sensitive FM receivers I have been using for years at home with reliable antennas. Did they relocate their tx antenna, lower its height, or lower power? Anyone? I miss my LNG!
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WLNG's Signal....
- Thread starter larryb1
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I think the culprit is WXRK switching on the HD, which I believe only happened in the past year or so. WLNG's signal often even made it into Queens and as far as Staten Island on my car radio, even when there was no tropo. The combination of their mono signal and no interference from any station on 91.9 in Nassau County or the five boroughs really helped that signal get out far. I don't believe there's been any changes in WLNG's facility, so you can probably thank IBOC and HD Radio for putting a stop to your reception of the station in Nassau county!
The funny thing is I've been talking about this problem for about a year now. Al Case used to receive the station at his house on the Nassau/Suffolk line via an antenna on a tower about a year ago. We have received this complaint from other listeners in Western Suffolk. Nothing has changed on our end, although transmitter, antenna and cable upgrade have been on our mind (And I think we should get Frankie C to install it this time without the pressure of Paul wanting it on NOW! I wish I was there for the CCA install Frank, god bless ya)
With the IBOC signal on WXRK as neo11 explains, has created a modulated 'digital noise' to the left and right of 92.3fm. This additional signal/information could cause modulated static to interfere with 92.1fm. Since 91.9fm hasn't gone HD, we haven't has the problem to the lower end of 92.1fm. Al and I are waiting to hear from professionals that can verify this theory.
With the IBOC signal on WXRK as neo11 explains, has created a modulated 'digital noise' to the left and right of 92.3fm. This additional signal/information could cause modulated static to interfere with 92.1fm. Since 91.9fm hasn't gone HD, we haven't has the problem to the lower end of 92.1fm. Al and I are waiting to hear from professionals that can verify this theory.
I can null XRK pretty well with a high grade, very selective receiver here in Garden City with a multi-element high gain yagi antenna pointed to the north of due east with good front to back rejection. I hear little or no hash from XRK splattering over to 92.1. Even when the tropo is at it's best...still no LNG...not even a drifting in and out signal. At first I thought the station was off the air! Maybe some structure or landfill site was erected in Suffolk Cty, in my line of sight to you?
It used to come in, even without the troph on my car radio in central Nassau as recently as last February.
(I miss my LNG!)
It used to come in, even without the troph on my car radio in central Nassau as recently as last February.
(I miss my LNG!)
About two weeks ago I was receiving WLNG like a local neighborhood station from Babylon all the way out east to about Rt 112. Then all of a sudden the signal got weak. Something was interfereing. When I got to my destination in Yaphank, the station was unlistenable. Usually the signal is pretty robust in Yaphank. The following week (last weekend) it was back to normal with a good signal in Yaphank.
The WLNG phenomena does have a great deal to do with weather and other things. There are times when I can listen to WLNG all along Sunrise Highway from Babylon to Baldwin like a local neighborhood station. There are other times when I can't hear it at all in the same stretch of Sunrise Hwy. I will agree that WLNG has been a bit of a tougher catch this year. The other East End "just out of reach" station for me is WEHM on 92.9 FM. Usually If I can get WLNG in this area I can also get WEHM. Both stations have been not making it so far west as frequently this year, at least in my observations. This year, however belongs to WLIU. More often than not their signal comes booming in, IBOC and all, making it difficult to listen to WXBA on 88.1 and or WKWZ on 88.5 FM. Just my observations.
The WLNG phenomena does have a great deal to do with weather and other things. There are times when I can listen to WLNG all along Sunrise Highway from Babylon to Baldwin like a local neighborhood station. There are other times when I can't hear it at all in the same stretch of Sunrise Hwy. I will agree that WLNG has been a bit of a tougher catch this year. The other East End "just out of reach" station for me is WEHM on 92.9 FM. Usually If I can get WLNG in this area I can also get WEHM. Both stations have been not making it so far west as frequently this year, at least in my observations. This year, however belongs to WLIU. More often than not their signal comes booming in, IBOC and all, making it difficult to listen to WXBA on 88.1 and or WKWZ on 88.5 FM. Just my observations.
Yes the signal has been effected by the new digital signals causing sideband signal on the adjecent frequencies.
Thanks Brian: It was a big job installing the CCA under pressure and thanks to Bob Aldridge for his help as well too
Thanks Brian: It was a big job installing the CCA under pressure and thanks to Bob Aldridge for his help as well too
larryb1 said:
I will have to concur about the interference caused by IBOC. I used to get WLNG-FM quite often here in the South Shore area of Massachusetts with the use of a Channel Master Stereo-Probe 9 Yagi antenna and an 18db. amplifier. It's nearly impossible now as fairly local WPRO-FM (92.3) and WUMB (91.9) are splattering their IBOC subs onto 92.1 . So, like you.... I am suffering from the IBOC blues. They should have chosen FMeXtra for digital FM rather than IBOC. The coverage with FMeXtra would be better and cleaner complete with all of the amenities of digital broadcasting.... but without the interference. And now they are talking about upping the IBOC to 10% injection........ talk about trying to "make a silk purse from a sow's ear".
As for 'LNG, fortunately they are streaming and live. The only problem is the lack of local ads due to the copyright police.
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
That has nothing to do with copyright. It's the result of AFTRA trying to get huge royalties for spots done by AFTRA talent when streamed by a radio station; nearly all ad agencies have told stations that they will be cancelled and held liable if spots are streamed.
DavidEduardo said:
Hello, David. When I use the saying "the copyright police", it's meant as a catch-all phrase (you know.... like "Johnny Fever" of WKRP in Cincinnati and the "phone police"?). ;D I'm well aware about AFTRA and the ad agencies embargo on the streaming of certain national spots on local station Internet streams. This almost killed Internet radio in the first place a few years back. Fortunately, the technology made it possible to break away during local spot breaks. In their place, a lot of AD Council spots. Admittedly, when the stations began to substitute the local ads with "filler material", a lot of the local flavor of the particular station went away with it.
M
motnow
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Not to throw mud here at a legacy but if the stream of LNG excludes local advertising, what's left?
After all, I believe I remember hearing either a DJ or a jingle claiming they have "the most advertising".
Then again, they have a jingle for just about anything.
After all, I believe I remember hearing either a DJ or a jingle claiming they have "the most advertising".
Then again, they have a jingle for just about anything.
C
CHJ1950
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Back in the mid 1960's WLNG'S signal would come in at the Jersey Shore, destroying the 5000 watt signal of WWRL. The music they played, and play today
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