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WLNJ, 91.7, Lakehurst

WLNJ, 91.7, Lakehurst is on the air, broadcasting at half-power under special temporary authority (until they get their license) ..
The station is owned by WYRS Broadcasting, and is simulcasting WYRS, 90.7, Manahawkin ..

Even at half-power, WLNJ comes in very clear here in Toms River and doesn't seem to affect reception of WBNJ on 91.9 ..

WLNJ's CP was due to expire on January 29 ..

WYRS' translator on 102.5 in nearby Whiting, W273AO, remains ..
 
Was in Lakehurst yesterday, I was wondering what was on 91.7 that came in very clear. But now that 91.7 and 102.5 are basically in the same range, maybe a different format could fill 102.5...
 
It's a shame that WLNJ is broadcasting the same old radio programming that already exists in Ocean County. We really need a new format.
 
Radiofan101 said:
It's a shame that WLNJ is broadcasting the same old radio programming that already exists in Ocean County. We really need a new format.

I'm trying to push for a new format myself, and getting the basic facts to back it up. We all know about WJRZ and their anemic ratings with Magic. Oldies was perfectly fine in Ocean County and the population had its supporters. I say a dance (EDM) format would capitalize in the Toms River/Seaside area, hence trying to push for an HD2 channel and also have it on 100.7 W264AM, and 96.7 W244As would be a bonus. Look what Sunrise Broadcasting out in Poughkeepsie is doing with their translators and HD2 feed.

http://www.facebook.com/drivefx


I also don't want to forget about the rock alternative fans. I remember hearing an internet stream called RadioLBI, a mix of surf rock and alternative. Imagine if let's say 95.9 The Rat would put this type of format on their HD2 feed and simulcast it on W300AO out in Manahawkin/LBI on 107.9.
 
d21ofnj said:
I also don't want to forget about the rock alternative fans. I remember hearing an internet stream called RadioLBI, a mix of surf rock and alternative. Imagine if let's say 95.9 The Rat would put this type of format on their HD2 feed and simulcast it on W300AO out in Manahawkin/LBI on 107.9.

Can't be done, a commercial translator must be located within a station's 60dBu contour, Manahawkin is barely within WRAT's 40dBu contour.

Besides their ANALOG signal can barely be picked up on the best car radios. Without some very sophisticated (expensive) equipment (ie: a very tall tower and very large directional antenna) you would never be able to get WRAT's HD signal to the translator.
 
JerseyShor said:
d21ofnj said:
I also don't want to forget about the rock alternative fans. I remember hearing an internet stream called RadioLBI, a mix of surf rock and alternative. Imagine if let's say 95.9 The Rat would put this type of format on their HD2 feed and simulcast it on W300AO out in Manahawkin/LBI on 107.9.

Can't be done, a commercial translator must be located within a station's 60dBu contour, Manahawkin is barely within WRAT's 40dBu contour.

Besides their ANALOG signal can barely be picked up on the best car radios. Without some very sophisticated (expensive) equipment (ie: a very tall tower and very large directional antenna) you would never be able to get WRAT's HD signal to the translator.

I don't think HD channels apply to the limited contour rule just like non-commercial radio, and remember Party 105 out in LI had it's 105.3 signal transmitted on 101.5 in Nassau before, which was a good chunck out of their protected contour. But I do see the cost and upgrades WRAT needs in order to shoot the feed from Belmar to Manahawkin. Okay, much easier if the dance format was on The Rat's HD2 going to 100.7 and alternative on JRZ on 107.9, having a different format instead of a similar HD1 format. 8)

To go back on topic, here's WLNJ's coverage map.

http://maps.google.com/?q=http://tr...q=91.7&contour=60&city=LAKEHURST&state=NJ.kml
 
d21ofnj said:
I don't think HD channels apply to the limited contour rule just like non-commercial radio, and remember Party 105 out in LI had it's 105.3 signal transmitted on 101.5 in Nassau before, which was a good chunck out of their protected contour.

Party didn't own the 101.5 translator. A commercial translator not owned by the primary station's licensee can repeat anything it wants, as long as it can receive the originating signal over the air and has permission to rebroadcast it. But a fill-in translator owned by the originating station's licensee can't extend beyond the primary station's 60 dBu contour, regardless of whether it's relaying the main channel or an HD sub.
 
Bobby Wick was the guy along with Bob Sorrentino at WJRZ Radio many years ago was very instrumental in helping me get my start in radio.

I wish Bobby & Nancy Wick continued success with WYRS Radio.

I admit the programming is very "set in it's ways' and more should be put on the air that plays to the pubic. These peoples are true broadcasters and always operate with-in the law.

Good Luck!
 
d21ofnj said:
I'm trying to push for a new format myself, and getting the basic facts to back it up. We all know about WJRZ and their anemic ratings with Magic. Oldies was perfectly fine in Ocean County and the population had its supporters. I say a dance (EDM) format would capitalize in the Toms River/Seaside area(edit)

Ocean County is the Sarasota of New Jersey...lots of retired people who detest any kind of rock, rap, dance, or hip hop. The format that would do well is standards, although the ad agencies hate older demographics. WBNJ in Barnegat is noncommercial, but attracts a fair share of listeners in Ocean County. It would behoove them, however, to clean up that train wreck of a playlist that they have on the air. Get rid of that horrible Elton John and other AC-flavored crap that their young PD loves to sprinkle into the format. I was listening for a while, when a beautiful big band tune was followed by "Crocodile Rock". YUCK! Young people aren't going to sit through Perry Como, the Mills Brothers, Tommy Dorsey, etc. to hear soft rock. And we older folks will turn our radios off and go to recorded music when we hear Billy Joel, Elton John, or other lame "artists" from the 1970s. Mixing that stuff in is like serving pizza with milk or sardines with cantaloupe and cream soda.
 
ka2xuk said:
d21ofnj said:
I'm trying to push for a new format myself, and getting the basic facts to back it up. We all know about WJRZ and their anemic ratings with Magic. Oldies was perfectly fine in Ocean County and the population had its supporters. I say a dance (EDM) format would capitalize in the Toms River/Seaside area(edit)

Ocean County is the Sarasota of New Jersey...lots of retired people who detest any kind of rock, rap, dance, or hip hop. The format that would do well is standards, although the ad agencies hate older demographics. WBNJ in Barnegat is noncommercial, but attracts a fair share of listeners in Ocean County. It would behoove them, however, to clean up that train wreck of a playlist that they have on the air. Get rid of that horrible Elton John and other AC-flavored crap that their young PD loves to sprinkle into the format. I was listening for a while, when a beautiful big band tune was followed by "Crocodile Rock". YUCK! Young people aren't going to sit through Perry Como, the Mills Brothers, Tommy Dorsey, etc. to hear soft rock. And we older folks will turn our radios off and go to recorded music when we hear Billy Joel, Elton John, or other lame "artists" from the 1970s. Mixing that stuff in is like serving pizza with milk or sardines with cantaloupe and cream soda.

In that sense this is where WJRZ needs to return, and based by the numbers for Magic, it's not going anywhere. But again, I'm not trying to get dance for the entire Ocean County, just the region that W264Am covers, which is a good chunk of B98.5's audience.
 
There are few if any broadcasters that I know as dedicated and committed
to the business of communications as Bob and Nancy Wick. They have taken WYRS
to a powerful new level of coverage, and most importantly, their committment to
Christian values in this area. Bob is perhaps the last of a dying breed of outstanding
AF and RF engineers, and we're talking component level. From frequency search to
signing on, Bob has shepherded the ministry in a way few have ever achieved.
Always respectful, always honest and with a hard core sense of strong values,
the Wicks share a higher calling, and I am grateful for their steadfastness. Bob never
tires of reaching out and helping broadcasters. WLNJ has a good coverage area in
my area of Western and Central Monmouth County, and beyond. The Lord's richest
blessing in your achievement. You deserve it and we're here to help .
 
WLNJ's signal is atop a cell tower across the street from the New Egypt Speedway on Route 539.
Pix of the transmitter tower are here:
http://gallery.wirelessadvisor.com/showimage.php?i=6710&c=34
http://gallery.wirelessadvisor.com/showimage.php?i=6709&c=34

It's very close to New Egypt, Lakehurst is 10 miles away.
Definitely 102.5 in Whiting is now obsolete, and should be either shutoff or re-transmitting something else.

I wonder how the signal does to the west towards Wrightstown,
and how far down 37/70/571 the good signal carries east. There is a big null westward in the signal pattern.
Still nice to see a new FM signal in Ocean County, tho there is much overlap with it's parent 90.7 Manahawkin.
 
d21ofnj said:
KyleAndMelissa22 said:
Definitely 102.5 in Whiting is now obsolete, and should be either shutoff or re-transmitting something else.

For example: http://tunein.com/radio/Party-732-s127269/ ;D

Since it's a translator it would have to relay something else entirely within the 60 dBu contour .
(unless it's relaying something non-commercial and/or below 91.9).

The only stations where Whiting is in the 60 dBu are 88.9, 91.1, 91.7, 92.7, 94.5, 100.1, 101.5, 103.3 & 105.7.
Perhaps 88.9 can use it to simulcast their dance format,
problem is Whiting is a large majority 55+ age group, so I don't think lots would be into it there.

The best choice I can see for the area is a simulcast of 91.9 WBNJ because now the 91.7 in New Egypt/Lakehurst will make
that kinda hard to recieve, but the oldies format will fit well for the town of Whiting, and their majority senior population.
 
KyleAndMelissa22 said:
d21ofnj said:
KyleAndMelissa22 said:
Definitely 102.5 in Whiting is now obsolete, and should be either shutoff or re-transmitting something else.

For example: http://tunein.com/radio/Party-732-s127269/ ;D

Since it's a translator it would have to relay something else entirely within the 60 dBu contour .
(unless it's relaying something non-commercial and/or below 91.9).

The only stations where Whiting is in the 60 dBu are 88.9, 91.1, 91.7, 92.7, 94.5, 100.1, 101.5, 103.3 & 105.7.
Perhaps 88.9 can use it to simulcast their dance format,
problem is Whiting is a large majority 55+ age group, so I don't think lots would be into it there.

The best choice I can see for the area is a simulcast of 91.9 WBNJ because now the 91.7 in New Egypt/Lakehurst will make
that kinda hard to recieve, but the oldies format will fit well for the town of Whiting, and their majority senior population.

I realize that, I was throwing an example of just a different format ;D But since you mentioned the oldies format, yea that's another format hole that shouldn't had left the FM dial.
 
d21ofnj said:
I realize that, I was throwing an example of just a different format ;D
But since you mentioned the oldies format, yea that's another format hole that shouldn't had left the FM dial.

On WYRS's website I've seen no mention so far of the 91.7 simulcast in New Egypt / Lakehurst
(or the 102.5 in Whiting for that matter). I hope they sell the translator to WBNJ because it's a shame that 91.9
has to battle with 91.7 in Manchester Township/Whiting now....And selling 102.5 could also help raise more money
since I'm sure it was a nice chunk of their donation change to buy/turn on 91.7. Seems like the right thing to do. ;)
 
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