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WLTS 105.9

Okay, for those who remember, (yes it has been almost a decade,) the former WLTS FM @ 105.9 in the Crecent City, I have a couple of questions.

- First, what was the jingle/liner package they used? I very well remember the weather bed cut with the sound effect of a tape being started for the outro and the imaging guy saying, "Now back to New Orleans best music with (fill in the blank). FYI LTS sister station B97 had the same outro cut but used it as a regular jock shout.

- Second whatever lead to the desire to re-image as the short lived Star 105.9 (which lasted about a week) and finally the disaterous plunge to 1059 the Zone?
It seemed like WLTS had things going its way before it was all jacked up with trasitioning to the 'start of death countdown' Star brand. (Not to say that Star is a bad moniker, just that IMHO it really sounded the death toll for a good NOLA station.)

Thanks

QID
 
WLTS was on 105.3 not 105.9. It started in Slidell as WBSG(I Think), then became WXEL, WAIL(Rythmic R&B), WLTS(AC), WKZN,(moved COL to Kenner), short lived as oldies as WTKL, now known as WWL-FM.
 
"Star" didn't last very long because another station in the market (I think one in Hammond) had the name trademarked. That eventually led to the Zone (which I didn't mind, music-wise).
 
I may be a little off,

But for years as I can remember, it was Lite 105 (Top hour ID "WLTS-FM Slidell-New Orleans"). Then Sinclair bought them, along with Magic 101.9 and a few others. Because they had two AC stations on their hands, they took the one with the lower ratings, of course, ::) and flipped it to Hot AC as Star 105.3. From what I understand, it was Willie B's idea to go Star and it didn't last because there was Star 107.3 (or something to that effect) in Hammond, LA. Don't get me wrong, Willie B. is a good guy, though!

After that big Star ordeal, Jim Hanzo came on as PD and changed it to "The Best of the 90's, 80's, and Today -- 105.3 WLTS." I still have a keychain btw. ;D IMO, he did well with the station. I liked it! As I understand it, he brought good ratings to that station it hadn't seen in years. Then Entercom bought the Sinclair cluster and changed it to 105-3 The Zone. The rest is history....

Jeremy
 
jeez, jeremy. for a guy who is so happy in televsion you sure do post quite a bit about radio.....
 
Jeremy said:
I may be a little off,

But for years as I can remember, it was Lite 105 (Top hour ID "WLTS-FM Slidell-New Orleans"). Then Sinclair bought them, along with Magic 101.9 and a few others. Because they had two AC stations on their hands, they took the one with the lower ratings, of course, ::) and flipped it to Hot AC as Star 105.3. From what I understand, it was Willie B's idea to go Star and it didn't last because there was Star 107.3 (or something to that effect) in Hammond, LA. Don't get me wrong, Willie B. is a good guy, though!

After that big Star ordeal, Jim Hanzo came on as PD and changed it to "The Best of the 90's, 80's, and Today -- 105.3 WLTS." I still have a keychain btw. ;D IMO, he did well with the station. I liked it! As I understand it, he brought good ratings to that station it hadn't seen in years. Then Entercom bought the Sinclair cluster and changed it to 105-3 The Zone. The rest is history....

Jeremy

Actually Star came after Jim was fired when Entercom took over Sinclair, after they were hit with the ceist and desist they went to 105-3 LTS, and after that they went to The Zone, it later evolved into Bayou 105.3, and is currently the FM counterpart to WWL-AM.
 
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Actually Star came after Jim was fired when Entercom took over Sinclair, after they were hit with the ceist and desist they went to 105-3 LTS, and after that they went to The Zone, it later evolved into Bayou 105.3, and is currently the FM counterpart to WWL-AM.
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Mr. Duckie:

The term is "cease and desist."
 
jeez, jeremy. for a guy who is so happy in televsion you sure do post quite a bit about radio.....

Thanks Marconi2, mighty kind of you! ;D

Actually, I need to be more exact. I'm in film AND television.

I do miss radio, as it was fun when I was growing up in the 80's. It's really not the same today I guess, but I'm sure I may get back into it one day soon, just part-time tho. Till then, my place in the film arts is what I've been doing almost two years now.

Jeremy
 
frequentmodulator said:
Wasn't it WLTS long before it was Star? And was Mitchell PD or just morning host?
It flipped from WAIL to WLTS "Lite 105" in '84. Mitchell was PD/mornings from Day One.
 
QID937:

The original call sign was WBGS, which stood for Bill Garrett Chevrolet (Chevrolet spelled phonetically -- "Shevvy"). 105.3 FM was the old WDSU-FM frequency, dating back to post-World War II.

WDSU-FM was originally authorized 200 kw (that's not a typo) and was authorized on 92.3 FM in 1946 (owner: Stephens Broadcasting).*
In 1947, with the Table of Assignments reshaken, it was assigned 105.3 FM. There it operated until the 1963 Table of Assignments gave the new frequency 93.3 to New Orleans, to which it moved. Later it would become WQUE, some time in the 1970's.

* When the FCC moved the FM band from the old 45 MHz area up to the present 88-108 MHz, over the protests of many advocates of FM radio, including Edwin H. Armstrong and a number of operators--a long story worth the reading, it originally assigned (a) 88-92 MHz for educational radio, (b) 92-to about 104 MHz (I do not remember exactly) for Class B stations, and (c) about 104-108 MHz for Class A stations (max. 1 kw ERP). No Class A frequencies were assigned to communities; these were chosen by an applicant's consulting engineer. The 1945/46 Table of Assignments assigned frequencies two channels apart -- e.g., 92.1, 92.5, 92.9, etc.-- in the same community. To differentiate the assignments in this new band from the original low band, the channels were designated in the 100 series. Thus 92.1 was Channel 121, 92.3 was Channel 122, etc.

But this system overestimated the ability of the old tube FM receivers of post-war times to be able to differentiate between two local stations two channels apart. If such an overestimation seems ridiculous, remember, this was fairly new territory for everyone; FM remained largely experimental up until World War II, and the war made electronics turn into a totally military supply technology, with no room for further expansion or much experimentation until after the War.

The FCC decided quickly that something had to be done, and so it came up with a brand new Table of Assignments, which stayed in force until about 1960-61. The Class A band was ended and 20 frequencies from 92 to 108 MHz were given to Class A stations solely. The whole band was opened up to Class B stations less those 20 frequencies and Class A (1 kw max.) stations were limited to them: 92.1, 92.7, 93.5, 94.3, 95.3, 95.9, 96.7, 97.7, 98.3, 99.3, 100.1, 100.9, 101.7, 102.3, 103.1, 103.9, 104.9, 105.5, 106.3, and 107.1. Still, under this new table of assignments, no Class A's were assigned; consulting engineers continued to choose them on the basis of studies.

If one looks at the "For the Record" section of Broadcasting magazine back in the post-War era, one will see many conflicting applications for Class A stations going into hearings, particularly in New York and Los Angeles. Something else that is of interest is that the FCC had no qualms about sandwiching Class A stations in between the local Class B powerhouses even in the same market.

Metro Los Angeles is an excellent example for that era:

92.3 KPRO-FM* Riverside (I am uncertain about this call sign)
93.1 KNX-FM Los Angeles
93.9 in hearing
94.7 KFMV* Los Angeles
95.1 KFXM-FM* San Bernardino
95.5 KECA-FM Los Angeles, later KABC-FM
96.3 KRKD-FM Los Angeles
97.1 KKLA* Los Angeles (KFSG-AM)
97.5 KPRO Riverside (I am uncertain about this call sign)
97.9 KMAU* Los Angeles
98.7 KTLO* los Angeles, later KMGM
99.1 KRCN* Riverside
99.5 KFVD-FM Los Angeles (KFVD AM)
99.9 KBMT* Riverside
100.3 KMLA* Los Angeles
101.1 KHJ-FM Los Angeles
101.9 KOMB* Los Angeles (KGER AM);
101.9 KUTE Glendale (KOMB cp expired)
102.7 in hearing
103.5 KTML-FM* Los Angeles (Times-Mirror)
104.3 KPLA* Los Angeles (Marathon School of Radio Arts
105.1 KOLI* Los Angeles (Cannon & Collister - KIEV)
105.9 KFI-FM* Los Angeles
106.7 in hearing
107.5 in hearing

Take a look at the Class A's in the area:
102.3 KFOX-FM Long Beach
103.1 KNOB Long Beach
106.3 KSRT* Long Beach
93.5 KOCS-FM Ontario
98.3 KWKW-FM* Pasadena
103.9 KREC* Redlands
96.7 KVOE-FM Santa Ana
103.1 KSTM-FM Santa Monica

There were other Class A frequencies that you do not see here because many of them were in hearings, but when it became obvious by 1950 that FM was not going to make it, many applicants simply withdrew their applications and were never granted.

Caution: These are from notes I made 40 years ago, and since then I have been able to research a bit more, in Broadcastings of the post-War era, so there will be some slight modifications to these lists when I collate the data. In the main, they are correct, however. * indicates a deleted cp/license.

At the risk of boring everyone to death, one more fascinating bit of trivia: The new band, as we saw, was distinguished from the original low-band FM by assigning the "100 series" to channel designations: 121, 122, etc. When the FCC re-worked the Table of Assigments (as it was then called), It assigned channels using the "200 series": 221, 222, etc. This 1947 table stayed in effect until about 1960, when the glut of interest in FM radio because of the "hi-fi" movement on the part of the young and young-at-heart over-ran the available frequencies in major markets according to the Table of Assignments. In 1962, the FCC saw that at that rate of growth, smaller cities and towns would be forever ruled out at having their own FM stations, and imposed a freeze on applications for commercial FM stations. The following year, it came out with the new Table of Assignments. This table added a Class C (up to 100 kw) category for the continental United States apart from New England, part of the Mid-Atlantic, and the whole Upper Midwest (with some exceptions along their northern band), and for most of California; in these parts, Class B stations with a max of 50 kw were to be authorized. Existing stations whose facilities exceeded the maximum for Class B and C's were grandfathered. The new table also retained the 20 Class A frequencies of the 1947 table, but it differed from the 1946 and 1947 tables in assigning specific Class A frequencies to specific towns and cities. Class A's were raised to a max. of 3 kw from the original 1 kw. All of these changes had been suggested by operators and interested applicants, as well as trade groups, during the rulemaking procedure during the freeze.

Classes B1, C2, and C3 would come much later, as would raising Class A's to 6 kw.
 
New Orleans FM 1945-63:

89.3 WBEH* 10 w. P.G. Beauregard School. Station constructed and put on air by fathers who were ham operators. Deleted about '55.
92.3 WDSU-FM 100kw. 1946. Stephens Bcstng (WDSU 1280). Moved to 105.3 in 47 table
92.3 WNOE-FM* cp never activated. James A. Noe (WNOE 1060) revived 1969 on 101.1
93.7 WSMB-FM* 158 kw. Saenger Theater-Maison Blanche (WSMB 1350); moved to 102.7 in 47 table
93.7 WDSW* 40 kw. Deep South Broadcasting. cp never activated. Unsuccessful applicant for AM station in New Orelans
95.7 WTPS-FM* 170 kw. 1945-52. Times-OPicayune Publishing Co. When the newspaper realized FM radio was not going to be a success, it applied for an AM station on 940 AM, a daytimer (now WYLD 940). Both the AM & FM were affiliates of Gordon McLendon's Liberty Broadcasting System. The FM went off the air for good about 1952-3 when a squall line knocked down its tower on the West Bank. Studios were in the handsome brown stone building on Lee Circle, now the Saints' Headquartes.
95.7 WWMT 47 kw 1953. Fidelity Broadcasting, a subsidiary of Custom Audio. Studios in the Pontchartrain Hotel. Used primarily to furnish Muzak on its SCA. WWMT represented the first of the new wave of FM arising from the national craze for "hi-fi." Custom Audio was a big hi-fi store back in the 1950's. It took over the transmitter and frequency of WTPS-FM, opened studios in the posh Pontchartrain Hotel and put its antenna atop this famous landmark on St. Charles Avenue near Jackson Avenue. Changed to WBYU 1970.
97.1 WRCM 61 kw. 1945. The city's first and oldest FM station. Supreme Broadcasting Co. When owner George Mayoral realized that FM was not going to make it, he applied the following year for an AM license, WJMR 990 AM, a daytimer to become famous for the Poppa Stoppa program in the afternoons, which brought r&b and early rock to the city. Mayoral would also build WJMR-TV channel 61, the city's second TV station; it later became channel 20, and now survives as WVUE channel 8 (originally 12).
100.3 WWLH* 190 kw. 1945-53. Loyola University of the South (WWL 870) revived in 1970 on 101.9 FM. I recall as a small boy hearing the stentorian tones of the announcer on the top of the hour, "This is your 50,000-watt clear-channel station, WWL New Orleans, 870 on the radio dial, Loyola University of the South, and its FM affiliate WWLH, with studios in the Roosevelt Hotel." Loyola did not get into TV until too late, and fought it out with WTPS (The Times-Picayune) and WNOE (James A. Noe) for channel 4, which it won.
102.7 WSMB-FM* 158 kw. 1946-1953. From 93.7, qv.
105.3 WDSU-FM 200 kw. 1947 from 92.3, which see. About 1963 to the present 93.3 FM (WQUE).
107.5 WADW-FM* 5 kw. 1948-1951? Louise C. Carlson (WJBW 1230); call changed to WJBW-FM 1949. I do not know if this ever went on the air. Here is another interesting New Orleans story: Louise and her husband had a hard-contested divorce just after World War II, and it became celebrated locally as well as, I heard, nationally. One of the big contented items was who would get the radio station, WJBW, "New Orleans' ONLY independent station" (as it was until 1950. Louise eventually did. Struggling along with a hodge-podge of programs during the glory days of New Orleans radio, this very old station picked up r&b and rock in the early 1950's. I recall visiting the station in the Cigali Bldg. on Canal Street back then-- it was run down and decrepit, the acoustical tiles yellow and crumbling, a couple of 45 rpm cube RCA Victor record players plopped upon the inoperative 16-inch turntables, the whole place cramped and strung along the back wall on the second or third floor, I do not remember.

Interestingly, all of the assigned frequencies to New Orleans were taken after the War, although one can see by the spacings that more could have been dropped in on request: 94.5/94.7/94.9; 97.9, 98.7, 99.5; 101.1, 101.9, 103.5, 104.5, 106.1/106.5/106.7/106.9.

Two early FM's survive: WRCM (on air September 1, 1945; now WEZB), and WDSU-FM 93.3 (on air January 1, 1949 on 105.3; now WQUE).
 
jeez, jeremy. for a guy who is so happy in televsion you sure do post quite a bit about radio.....
Thanks Marconi2, mighty kind of you!

Actually, I need to be more exact. I'm in film AND television.

I do miss radio, as it was fun when I was growing up in the 80's. It's really not the same today I guess, but I'm sure I may get back into it one day soon, just part-time tho. Till then, my place in the film arts is what I've been doing almost two years now.

Jeremy

actually jeremy looks like marconi2 is just sore you may know a lil bit about radio. you might have been off by a few but you hit the nail. i really never knew hanzo ever became pd of 105.3. of course i never really listened to that station since i was in another music scene.
but radio was fun. really fun! i got out in the 80s before the corpos took it down to nazi level........................... ;D
 
i din't mean to come off like a jerk, just givin' him a hard time. i know he knows the biz, in fact i bet i probably worked with him at some point. yes, radio not much fun anymore and i have only been in the biz for about twelve years and it has changed a ton from even then!
 
Thanks Sawtooth, I do know a little bit about radio. I appreciate you taking up for me and thank you, but it's not necessary. I figured Marconi was just giving me a rough time. Like he says, he knows the biz. Many of us on here do, right?!

There's a lot on this board we either agree or disagree on, but that's what it's about! We can all discuss things on our mind about radio, but do it in a civilized manor and have FUN! ;D

Jeremy
 
The "Star" story

When Sinclair took over they gathered all the employees and announced the new station name - Star! One employee mentioned that there was a station called Star broadcasting on the Northshore and that it could be heard clearly in the radio station parking lot in Metairie.

New manager-man waved his hands and dismissed the idea - printed up banners, t-shirts, billboards and had new liners cut.

Then the station was hit with a C&D. No more Star.

Ha ha.

It was the first step on the downward skid of radio into generic corporate crap. Bummer.
 
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