WLW on WLAC 1510?

[1st of 5]

While scanning the AM band with the DX-398 last Saturday night (0400-0600 UTC), I came across a station on 1510 Khz, IDing itself as WLW Newsradio 700. A quick check on Google indicated that WLW was on 700 AM originating from Cincinnati, OH. In the past, it was once described as "the Nation's station", due to its tx power. But the current website doesn't elaborate why I am receiving it on 1510. Another Google search revealed that 1510 AM is actually WLAC from Nashville,TN. Although they have completely different call signs and frequencies, they have almost the exact same content on their individual websites. Is this some other radio network like Premier or Westwood One? Is it common for a radio station to be translated on another radio station's frequency, in another state?
I never heard an ID on 1510 for WLAC Nashville, either.

 

[Tom Wells]

It is most likely your reciever front-end was overloaded and/or creating an "image" of WLW that appeared on 1500.
Could be somehow related to mxing with WSB, (750 x 2 =1400) minus difference between the two (500 x 2 =1000) = 1500.
Where were you listening, and tell us more about the antenna and any amplifier..tuned or untuned?
Does the DX-398 have a true tuned RF preselector stage? If the antenna input goes straight to the mixer, you
never know what will happen with overloading and intermodulation.

Oh, and "transistor" based radios will always suffer more of this than tube types due to AVC control not being as effective in
decreasing gain ( and hence intermod) in the RF/IF stages of the radio. Sad but true.
Tubes are easily varied in gain by controlling voltage on a grid. Transistors don't "like" to be throttled this way, so
strong signals walk through anyway.

 

[1st of 5]

I wondered if it was a mixing product, but the google page lists WLW as having multiple frequencies, with 1510 being one of them, unless I misunderstood the article. I was listening in my library/workshop in my house, which has a metal roof. I was only using the built in ferrite AM antenna. I guess you call my type of listening 'barefoot'? I don't use any amplifiers, resistors or any additional electronics, I just move the radio around to get a stronger signal.
Since my DX-398 is almost 10 years old, it might be going senile. I don't know if it has a true tuned RF preselector, but do know that it is a phase loop locked synthesizer something or another. But, again, its an antique from 2000 and I'm sure that the technology has advanced significantly since then.

 

[AndyWaldrop]

What is the possibility that the two stations were simulcasting a program, possibly originating from WLW, and the WLW I.D. gets aired on WLAC (and possibly on any other station carrying the WLW originated program)?

This does happen.

 

[gr8oldies]

If you were listening to "The Weekend with Mike McConnell" or the "Bill Cunningham Show" on WLAC they originate from WLW and that is exactly what happened.

 

[Tom Wells]

Arrrgh! The only time a station should EVER let another station's legal ID go out is when the EAS system has switched the audio feed to
the area's primary information station. In the old days this would have been a MAJOR boo-boo, and very embarrassing to the
people who ran the station.
Sometimes stations ran audio of the president or some other major function straight off a broadcast receiver, often the EBS receiver,
because their audio was bad telco lines. If they weren't hovering their finger over the switch, they often got caught with their "pants
down" and aired someone else's ID.
WAY, WAY back it was permitted if the local station duly informed listeners before, during and after the feed that the audio was oringinated elsewhere.
Shows which air from multiple outlets should be required to keep the originating stations legal IDs seperate from the "program",
as in "we pause now for local station identifications", or read the list of calls AND frequencies the show runs on.

That, or never make a station ID in "program" material, just as the actual hour shouldn't be mentioned when the time zone is ambiguous.

Just another facet of our deregulated modern world, as in, "aww, it don't matter all that much".

 

[fredcantu]

I recall something similar years agon on KVET-AM.
They were carrying a west coast Astros game and I guess the board op gave up and went home.
The game ends... there's dead air... the game announcer feeds a next game promo for the flagship station KPRC... more dead air... then he feeds a promo for the full network... more dead air... then KPRC is coming down the line for what's left of KVET's audience to enjoy. I'm not sure how long the impromptu siumlcast went on. I had to go to bed.

 

[KyDXIn]

What is the possibility that the two stations were simulcasting a program, possibly originating from WLW, and the WLW I.D. gets aired on WLAC (and possibly on any other station carrying the WLW originated program)?

This does happen.

I believe both WLW and WLAC are part of the Clearchannel worldwide empire... (insert sinister laugh here)

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

If you were listening to "The Weekend with Mike McConnell" or the "Bill Cunningham Show" on WLAC they originate from WLW and that is exactly what happened.

Except for one thing - the current WLAC online schedule doesn't show the station carrying either McConnell's "The Weekend" or Willie's Sunday night show.

http://www.wlac.com/pages/schedule.html/

(edit to remove question about OP's location - didn't see that I was on the San Antonio board, since I picked this up via reading all new messages)