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WLW turned IBLOCK back on

Buckeyes2001 said:
Noticed that 690 and 710 had IBOC hash and sure enough, my HD radio showed HD again for WLW.

This is not good....
 
They have got to be out of their minds to have the IBOC back on. I can hear the loud hash on 690 at night.(but less hash on 710)
 
They obviously don't care about building penetration in the Cincinnati area, or about coverage in the suburbs on cheap radios.
 
I have a more sinister theory, but I won't mention it. Who was the respected radio person who said that IBOC was legalized jamming? I recommend that no one mention when IBOC is turned off on a station, as it alerts the authorities that support it to get it back on.

How often has it been that just when we think a station has dropped IBOC permanently, they turn it back on? I live in an area that currently has at least a dozen useable first adjacent signals blocked by sidebands. When you count the main channel that is about 1/7 of the AM band. The FM is worse as far as blocked signals. AMs are packed at 0.5/0.5 mV/m first adjacent, not the newer 0.5/0.25 first adjacent, on which interference levels were set. Also, FMs are nearly all short spaced with first adjacents is the most populated areas of the country. Often listenable adjacents that were listenable before no longer are listenable on FM also. It makes even a McIntosh MR-78 or MR-80 obsolete.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
I have a more sinister theory, but I won't mention it. Who was the respected radio person who said that IBOC was legalized jamming? I recommend that no one mention when IBOC is turned off on a station, as it alerts the authorities that support it to get it back on.

Let's try the theory: HD is off on WOAI. OK, guys, go get WOAI to turn it back on.
 
I just noticed that EVERY AM station that is on a frequency adjacent to one carrying Sean Hannity has its IBOC off! :D
 
Very disappointed that they turned their jammer back on!! Just another reason to abandon AM radio.
 
Well, at least Chicago AM stands as a pretty good example of droppage.

Only 620 ( Milw), 780, 1390, and 1690 continue to spew forth.

The nature of ionospheric "saturation" from solar radiation is what supresses AM in daytime.
Its effect, as AM is propogated and decoded, is exactly the same as the wideband "outside the mask"
rf real power that becomes part of the sum total at rectification.

This is why I have always maintaned that iboc makes even the most immense-sounding 50 kw AM sound like
a 1kw daytimer over in the next county's county seat on a December day.

The truly competing AM stations gave it up quite a while ago as an audio embarassment.
 
It's really killing reception of CKGM 690 here in Ottawa at night. That station is pretty much a local here, and now I have to position the radio just right to hear it at night. I imagine since Canadians don't know about iboc, those that were listening here in Ottawa probably aren't any more.
 
My sympathies. IBOC should be illegal. It should never have been approved in the first place. It amounts to legalized jamming.
 
Of course I know it'll never happen, but I was recently thinking that stations that EVER run IBOC, or have ever used it, should forever forfeit their rights to protections ... I was even thinking maybe to the point that as long as the "interfering" station's 0.1 µV/m-0.01% skywave contour overlaps at least one millimeter on the earth's surface of what would be the IBOC station's same contour if they ran the same TPO non-directional as the highest ERP main lobe, and their carrier is within 30 kHz + modulation bandwidth of the IBOC station's main analog carrier, then even if they were unlicensed they would escape prosecution or FCC shutdown raids. :D (Substitute the above field for whatever would be the minimum signal necessary for QRSS CW or PSK31 detection (but still too weak to ID) in an environment as quiet as a screen room, and only as often as a few tenths of a second once every other solar cycle.)

Even with IBOC, though, I was able one early morning about two and a half years ago to dig out 594 JOAK just 8 miles from local 600 KOGO and their IBOC. :eek: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?4dqx65cf85glo83
 
mimo said:
It's really killing reception of CKGM 690 here in Ottawa at night. That station is pretty much a local here, and now I have to position the radio just right to hear it at night. I imagine since Canadians don't know about iboc, those that were listening here in Ottawa probably aren't any more.

WOR and WGN are affected even here in Columbus, about 100 miles northeast of WLW's transmitter. WOR sometimes gives to both WLW and WGN as it good as it gets. Of course, as we know on this site none of us should be listening to AM stations that aren't local ... :) ::)
 
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