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WMBI off the air next week 3 days?
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> They said on WMBI-FM yesterday afternoon that WMBI-AM would
> be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
> some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
> this maintenance.
>
The tower is only a few years old.
> be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
> some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
> this maintenance.
>
The tower is only a few years old.
> > They said on WMBI-FM yesterday afternoon that WMBI-AM
> would
> > be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
> > some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> > prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
> > this maintenance.
> >
> The tower is only a few years old.
>
I'm betting the matinenance is stuff like new paint or light bulb changes or something like that.
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> would
> > be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
> > some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> > prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
> > this maintenance.
> >
> The tower is only a few years old.
>
I'm betting the matinenance is stuff like new paint or light bulb changes or something like that.
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
K
k9ez
Guest
> > > They said on WMBI-FM yesterday afternoon that WMBI-AM
> > would
> > > be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
>
> > > some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> > > prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
>
> > > this maintenance.
> > >
> > The tower is only a few years old.
> >
>
> I'm betting the matinenance is stuff like new paint or light
> bulb changes or something like that.
>
> -A
>
You dont need to shut down an AM or an FM to paint ro change bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and all stayed on the air.
> > would
> > > be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
>
> > > some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> > > prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
>
> > > this maintenance.
> > >
> > The tower is only a few years old.
> >
>
> I'm betting the matinenance is stuff like new paint or light
> bulb changes or something like that.
>
> -A
>
You dont need to shut down an AM or an FM to paint ro change bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and all stayed on the air.
C
colonelparker
Guest
I think and my only guess is that AM 1110 could be sold out to another outlet,
I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various places such as on the
CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people were saying saying that
Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk about it on the Buses,
el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could be the case???...
Colonel Parker
I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various places such as on the
CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people were saying saying that
Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk about it on the Buses,
el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could be the case???...
Colonel Parker
> I think and my only guess is that AM 1110 could be sold out
> to another outlet,
> I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various
> places such as on the
> CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people were
> saying saying that
> Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
>
> I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk
> about it on the Buses,
> el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could be
> the case???...
>
> Colonel Parker
>
1110 will never be sold. The hispanic programming on the station is very important to the owners. Most likely they are doing work to the 90.1 antenna to make it ready for IBOC. I would doubt the AM will go IBOC soon. Although it would be interesting to see the amount of interferance it would cause to the clear channel owned 1130 in milwaukee. Since clear channel is a proponent of AM IBOC, Part owner of the company with the patents, and willing to accept the interference that IBOC will cause. Of course they own most of the high powered AM stations in the country. So they will cause a lot more interferance than they would ever receive. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Link on 08/29/05 04:35 PM.</FONT></P>
> to another outlet,
> I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various
> places such as on the
> CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people were
> saying saying that
> Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
>
> I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk
> about it on the Buses,
> el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could be
> the case???...
>
> Colonel Parker
>
1110 will never be sold. The hispanic programming on the station is very important to the owners. Most likely they are doing work to the 90.1 antenna to make it ready for IBOC. I would doubt the AM will go IBOC soon. Although it would be interesting to see the amount of interferance it would cause to the clear channel owned 1130 in milwaukee. Since clear channel is a proponent of AM IBOC, Part owner of the company with the patents, and willing to accept the interference that IBOC will cause. Of course they own most of the high powered AM stations in the country. So they will cause a lot more interferance than they would ever receive. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Link on 08/29/05 04:35 PM.</FONT></P>
> would cause to the clear channel 1130 in milwaukee.
While 1130 is owned by Clear Channel.. I do not believe they are on a clear channel. (In fact, k9ez can help, but I don't think WISN is the primary 1130 - iow the one everyone else had to protect first when engineering their signals)
-A <P ID="signature">______________
</P>
While 1130 is owned by Clear Channel.. I do not believe they are on a clear channel. (In fact, k9ez can help, but I don't think WISN is the primary 1130 - iow the one everyone else had to protect first when engineering their signals)
-A <P ID="signature">______________
</P>
D
dybas
Guest
> > > They said on WMBI-FM yesterday afternoon that WMBI-AM
> > would
> > > be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
>
> > > some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> > > prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
>
> > > this maintenance.
> > >
> > The tower is only a few years old.
> >
>
> I'm betting the matinenance is stuff like new paint or light
> bulb changes or something like that.
>
Three days off sounds typical for a tower painting to me. Changing lite bulbs only takes a few hours. Tower Painting...yeah thats the ticket
> > would
> > > be off the air Monday through Wednesday of next week for
>
> > > some much-needed tower maintenance, and they requested
> > > prayer for the safety of those who would be carrying out
>
> > > this maintenance.
> > >
> > The tower is only a few years old.
> >
>
> I'm betting the matinenance is stuff like new paint or light
> bulb changes or something like that.
>
Three days off sounds typical for a tower painting to me. Changing lite bulbs only takes a few hours. Tower Painting...yeah thats the ticket
> You dont need to shut down an AM or an FM to paint ro change
> bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and all
> stayed on the air.
Hmm... I would figure that for an AM you'd have to go off-air since the whole tower is the antenna. Care to explain how it's done? (Feel free to email me off the board (or Google Talk me))
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and all
> stayed on the air.
Hmm... I would figure that for an AM you'd have to go off-air since the whole tower is the antenna. Care to explain how it's done? (Feel free to email me off the board (or Google Talk me))
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> >
> Three days off sounds typical for a tower painting to me.
> Changing lite bulbs only takes a few hours. Tower
> Painting...yeah thats the ticket
>
Stations routinely stay on during tower painting... they reduce power, use one tower only, etc.
This sounds like a structural item. Maybe bad contacts between sections (occasionally this happens when they put sealer or paint on the whole thing before erecting) or a guy wire problem or bad bolts (often they put them on upside down...)
> Three days off sounds typical for a tower painting to me.
> Changing lite bulbs only takes a few hours. Tower
> Painting...yeah thats the ticket
>
Stations routinely stay on during tower painting... they reduce power, use one tower only, etc.
This sounds like a structural item. Maybe bad contacts between sections (occasionally this happens when they put sealer or paint on the whole thing before erecting) or a guy wire problem or bad bolts (often they put them on upside down...)
P
PTCgal
Guest
Re: Here'e the scoop on WMBI 1110 AM...
Here is the "scoop" on what is going on at WMBI 1110 AM
An aux. line is coming down in preparation for the new heliax line to be installed.
No, we aren't being sold. We love our sister station too much to sell them! LOL!
Denise Pagano
Co-Host Prime Time Chicago
WMBI 90.1 FM
Here is the "scoop" on what is going on at WMBI 1110 AM
An aux. line is coming down in preparation for the new heliax line to be installed.
No, we aren't being sold. We love our sister station too much to sell them! LOL!
Denise Pagano
Co-Host Prime Time Chicago
WMBI 90.1 FM
> > You dont need to shut down an AM or an FM to paint ro
> change
> > bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and all
>
> > stayed on the air.
>
> Hmm... I would figure that for an AM you'd have to go
> off-air since the whole tower is the antenna. Care to
> explain how it's done? (Feel free to email me off the board
> (or Google Talk me))
If the antenna is a directional, often only one tower is fed, while work is done on the other(s).
I have worked on a live tower, and have seen many painted live. I really don't know current OSHA regs on reducing power, but you can easily paint the twoer if you don't short it to ground. Same with lamping. Once you jump onto the tower, you are part of the radiator. You use rope, not wires, to hoist parts or paint, and avoid shorting across the insulators.
> change
> > bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and all
>
> > stayed on the air.
>
> Hmm... I would figure that for an AM you'd have to go
> off-air since the whole tower is the antenna. Care to
> explain how it's done? (Feel free to email me off the board
> (or Google Talk me))
If the antenna is a directional, often only one tower is fed, while work is done on the other(s).
I have worked on a live tower, and have seen many painted live. I really don't know current OSHA regs on reducing power, but you can easily paint the twoer if you don't short it to ground. Same with lamping. Once you jump onto the tower, you are part of the radiator. You use rope, not wires, to hoist parts or paint, and avoid shorting across the insulators.
K
k9ez
Guest
> > > You dont need to shut down an AM or an FM to paint ro
> > change
> > > bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and
> all
> >
> > > stayed on the air.
> >
> > Hmm... I would figure that for an AM you'd have to go
> > off-air since the whole tower is the antenna. Care to
> > explain how it's done? (Feel free to email me off the
> board
> > (or Google Talk me))
>
> If the antenna is a directional, often only one tower is
> fed, while work is done on the other(s).
>
> I have worked on a live tower, and have seen many painted
> live. I really don't know current OSHA regs on reducing
> power, but you can easily paint the twoer if you don't short
> it to ground. Same with lamping. Once you jump onto the
> tower, you are part of the radiator. You use rope, not
> wires, to hoist parts or paint, and avoid shorting across
> the insulators.
>
We just had the bulbs replaced on one of our AMs with the towers live. As long as you are not touching any ground (on an AM) you should have no troubles. FMs, with the shorter wavelength, can be an issue which is why we go to the AUX antenna during tower work by the main antenna.
> > change
> > > bulbs. We just did that on a few of our stations, and
> all
> >
> > > stayed on the air.
> >
> > Hmm... I would figure that for an AM you'd have to go
> > off-air since the whole tower is the antenna. Care to
> > explain how it's done? (Feel free to email me off the
> board
> > (or Google Talk me))
>
> If the antenna is a directional, often only one tower is
> fed, while work is done on the other(s).
>
> I have worked on a live tower, and have seen many painted
> live. I really don't know current OSHA regs on reducing
> power, but you can easily paint the twoer if you don't short
> it to ground. Same with lamping. Once you jump onto the
> tower, you are part of the radiator. You use rope, not
> wires, to hoist parts or paint, and avoid shorting across
> the insulators.
>
We just had the bulbs replaced on one of our AMs with the towers live. As long as you are not touching any ground (on an AM) you should have no troubles. FMs, with the shorter wavelength, can be an issue which is why we go to the AUX antenna during tower work by the main antenna.
K
k9ez
Guest
> I think and my only guess is that AM 1110 could be sold out
> to another outlet,
> I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various
> places such as on the
> CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people were
> saying saying that
> Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
>
> I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk
> about it on the Buses,
> el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could be
> the case???...
>
> Colonel Parker
>
There would be no real advantage for AAR to go to 1110. 850 has 10,000 watts ERP right towards the Loop, and at a lower frequency (read: better coverage). Also 850 gets to stay on longer than sunset local. The only advantage 1110 has is a better sginal to the far western suburbs.
> to another outlet,
> I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various
> places such as on the
> CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people were
> saying saying that
> Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
>
> I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk
> about it on the Buses,
> el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could be
> the case???...
>
> Colonel Parker
>
There would be no real advantage for AAR to go to 1110. 850 has 10,000 watts ERP right towards the Loop, and at a lower frequency (read: better coverage). Also 850 gets to stay on longer than sunset local. The only advantage 1110 has is a better sginal to the far western suburbs.
K
k9ez
Guest
> > I think and my only guess is that AM 1110 could be sold
> out
> > to another outlet,
> > I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various
> > places such as on the
> > CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people
> were
> > saying saying that
> > Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
> >
> > I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk
> > about it on the Buses,
> > el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could
> be
> > the case???...
> >
> > Colonel Parker
> >
> 1110 will never be sold. The hispanic programming on the
> station is very important to the owners. Most likely they
> are doing work to the 90.1 antenna to make it ready for
> IBOC. I would doubt the AM will go IBOC soon. Although it
> would be interesting to see the amount of interferance it
> would cause to the clear channel owned 1130 in milwaukee.
> Since clear channel is a proponent of AM IBOC, Part owner of
> the company with the patents, and willing to accept the
> interference that IBOC will cause. Of course they own most
> of the high powered AM stations in the country. So they
> will cause a lot more interferance than they would ever
> receive.
>
WOW all I can say is that you are jumping to all sorts of conclusions here! Willing to accept interference? Says who??
You best be reading the trade publications for the stance on AM IBOC. You are ASS-U-M-ING
> out
> > to another outlet,
> > I've heard talks and over-heard conversations in various
> > places such as on the
> > CTA buses, el-trains and at tavern that I go to, people
> were
> > saying saying that
> > Air Ameriica Radio needed more transmitting power.
> >
> > I do not know how true this is, put I heard lots of talk
> > about it on the Buses,
> > el-trains and a bar that I go to. Do you think that could
> be
> > the case???...
> >
> > Colonel Parker
> >
> 1110 will never be sold. The hispanic programming on the
> station is very important to the owners. Most likely they
> are doing work to the 90.1 antenna to make it ready for
> IBOC. I would doubt the AM will go IBOC soon. Although it
> would be interesting to see the amount of interferance it
> would cause to the clear channel owned 1130 in milwaukee.
> Since clear channel is a proponent of AM IBOC, Part owner of
> the company with the patents, and willing to accept the
> interference that IBOC will cause. Of course they own most
> of the high powered AM stations in the country. So they
> will cause a lot more interferance than they would ever
> receive.
>
WOW all I can say is that you are jumping to all sorts of conclusions here! Willing to accept interference? Says who??
You best be reading the trade publications for the stance on AM IBOC. You are ASS-U-M-ING
K
k9ez
Guest
> > would cause to the clear channel 1130 in milwaukee.
>
> While 1130 is owned by Clear Channel.. I do not believe they
> are on a clear channel. (In fact, k9ez can help, but I
> don't think WISN is the primary 1130 - iow the one everyone
> else had to protect first when engineering their signals)
>
> -A
>
Primaries on 1130 are WBBR New York and KWKH in Shreveport, LA. The rest of us are literally shoe horned in. Hense the NINE towers KFAN, WDFN and of course WISN need to run at night.
We need to protect each other actually.
I think he was refering to the company that owns WISN.
>
> While 1130 is owned by Clear Channel.. I do not believe they
> are on a clear channel. (In fact, k9ez can help, but I
> don't think WISN is the primary 1130 - iow the one everyone
> else had to protect first when engineering their signals)
>
> -A
>
Primaries on 1130 are WBBR New York and KWKH in Shreveport, LA. The rest of us are literally shoe horned in. Hense the NINE towers KFAN, WDFN and of course WISN need to run at night.
We need to protect each other actually.
I think he was refering to the company that owns WISN.
>
> You best be reading the trade publications for the stance on
> AM IBOC. You are ASS-U-M-ING
>
Sorry 9,
I would never call you the same. However I would love to see the day that clear channel filed a complaint because they were loosing coverage due to iboc. I don't think it will happen. Luckily WMBI AM probably won't be one of the first to run it. They don't own part of ibiquity.
> You best be reading the trade publications for the stance on
> AM IBOC. You are ASS-U-M-ING
>
Sorry 9,
I would never call you the same. However I would love to see the day that clear channel filed a complaint because they were loosing coverage due to iboc. I don't think it will happen. Luckily WMBI AM probably won't be one of the first to run it. They don't own part of ibiquity.
K
k9ez
Guest
> >
> > You best be reading the trade publications for the stance
> on
> > AM IBOC. You are ASS-U-M-ING
> >
> Sorry 9,
> I would never call you the same. However I would love to
> see the day that clear channel filed a complaint because
> they were loosing coverage due to iboc. I don't think it
> will happen. Luckily WMBI AM probably won't be one of the
> first to run it. They don't own part of ibiquity.
>
UGH, again, do your research and you will find your answers. Clear Channel is not he only company to invest in IBOC. IBOC FM seems to be running just fine as far as I can see.
It just appears that you have an ax to grind with Clear Channel but not any of the other investors.
AND BTW, I did not call you anything. I am sure you have heard the saying when you assume, you make an azz out of you and me.
> > You best be reading the trade publications for the stance
> on
> > AM IBOC. You are ASS-U-M-ING
> >
> Sorry 9,
> I would never call you the same. However I would love to
> see the day that clear channel filed a complaint because
> they were loosing coverage due to iboc. I don't think it
> will happen. Luckily WMBI AM probably won't be one of the
> first to run it. They don't own part of ibiquity.
>
UGH, again, do your research and you will find your answers. Clear Channel is not he only company to invest in IBOC. IBOC FM seems to be running just fine as far as I can see.
It just appears that you have an ax to grind with Clear Channel but not any of the other investors.
AND BTW, I did not call you anything. I am sure you have heard the saying when you assume, you make an azz out of you and me.
D
dybas
Guest
> > >
> > Three days off sounds typical for a tower painting to me.
> > Changing lite bulbs only takes a few hours. Tower
> > Painting...yeah thats the ticket
> >
>
> Stations routinely stay on during tower painting... they
> reduce power, use one tower only, etc.
>
> Actually, that was during the "old days" before OET 65 which is an OSHA/FCC exposure standard that all broadcast stations must comply with. There is a rather lengthy explanation by the FCC at the link below.
FCC http://wireless.fcc.gov/siting/FCC_LSGAC_RF_Guide.doc
The bottom line is this, if the tower is a radiating element then no worker can climb it while there is RF Power going to it...
Dr. Dave
> > Three days off sounds typical for a tower painting to me.
> > Changing lite bulbs only takes a few hours. Tower
> > Painting...yeah thats the ticket
> >
>
> Stations routinely stay on during tower painting... they
> reduce power, use one tower only, etc.
>
> Actually, that was during the "old days" before OET 65 which is an OSHA/FCC exposure standard that all broadcast stations must comply with. There is a rather lengthy explanation by the FCC at the link below.
FCC http://wireless.fcc.gov/siting/FCC_LSGAC_RF_Guide.doc
The bottom line is this, if the tower is a radiating element then no worker can climb it while there is RF Power going to it...
Dr. Dave
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