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WMFP-TV ch. 62 Oct. 1st

What is the value of WMFP sold to another broadcaster compared to channel 18's spectrum auction value?

Would the profit from selling the channel 42 spectrum justify the expense of purchasing the channel 18 spectrum and moving WHDH to 18?

Is the demand for 600 mHz spectrum such that an auction could produce a reasonable profit?

Are there any stations currently share time and what is the value of share time over individual ownership?

WMFP doesn't make a profit running infomercials?

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iyiyi said:
What is the value of WMFP sold to another broadcaster compared to channel 18's spectrum auction value?

Unknown, until we find out more about the specifics of the FCC incentive auction. NRJ paid $20 million for the licenses of WMFP and KCNS in San Francisco, so that's at least a starting point.

Would the profit from selling the channel 42 spectrum justify the expense of purchasing the channel 18 spectrum and moving WHDH to 18?

Doesn't work that way. The FCC's position right now seems to be that TV stations won't be compelled to give up any of their existing 6 MHz of spectrum if they don't want to, and that no station now operating on UHF will be involuntarily moved to VHF, but that stations have no "property rights," if you will, in their existing UHF allocations, which can and probably will be changed as the "repacking" process moves forward.

In other words: WMFP controls 6 MHz of spectrum. WHDH controls 6 MHz of spectrum. (12, actually, if you include WLVI). If the FCC wants channel 42 cleared off and WHDH doesn't want to yield up its spectrum rights at auction, WHDH won't have to buy the channel 18 spectrum from WMFP. If WMFP yields up its spectrum at auction, the FCC can simply tell WHDH to move from 42 to 18. It's not yet clear to what extent WHDH would be compensated for the cost of that move.

Is the demand for 600 mHz spectrum such that an auction could produce a reasonable profit?

That's certainly the FCC's hope. If you or I knew what the real-world answer to that question was going to be, we'd be in the spectrum-speculation business right now instead of sitting on our sofas watching the Bills lose. (Not that I'm bitter or anything.)

Are there any stations currently share time and what is the value of share time over individual ownership?

Not yet. The concept of "share time" in the spectrum-auction world is a new one. In the analog days, there were a handful of "share-time" TV stations that literally shared time: they might own a common transmitter or might each have their own separate transmission facility, but either way, only one station was on the air at a given time. I believe the last of those was channel 60 in Chicago, which lasted into the mid-80s: Spanish WBBS-TV had it during the day, indie WPWR-TV had it at night.

The new "share time" concept will be much more transparent to the viewer: if WYDN and WMFP, for instance, each give up a piece of their spectrum, you'd have one DTV transmitter on the remaining RF channel, still putting out a 6 MHz ATSC stream, but now the 19.39 mbps bitstream would be divided between two broadcasters. Viewers (after rescanning) would still see "48.1" and "62.1" (and maybe even "48.2" and/or "62.2") just like they do now, but behind the scenes, they'd all be riding that single stream.

Until we know more about how much the auctions might actually be worth, it's hard to say whether the payoff from agreeing to share a channel (and the cost savings resulting from sharing the cost of operating a single transmitter vs. separate transmitter facilities) will be worth it to a smaller broadcaster. It's a pretty good bet that it wouldn't be worth it to a larger broadcaster that has the resources to do more with its spectrum, such as mobile DTV and datacasting.

WMFP doesn't make a profit running infomercials?

It probably does. The question - and the bet that NRJ is apparently making - is whether the short-term value of the underlying spectrum at auction will end up being higher than the long-term upside from continuing to run what's essentially a leased-time radio station. Unless you have access to NRJ's books and you know what its investors' expectations are, that's hard to say.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Not yet. The concept of "share time" in the spectrum-auction world is a new one. In the analog days, there were a handful of "share-time" TV stations that literally shared time: they might own a common transmitter or might each have their own separate transmission facility, but either way, only one station was on the air at a given time. I believe the last of those was channel 60 in Chicago, which lasted into the mid-80s: Spanish WBBS-TV had it during the day, indie WPWR-TV had it at night.

The new "share time" concept will be much more transparent to the viewer: if WYDN and WMFP, for instance, each give up a piece of their spectrum, you'd have one DTV transmitter on the remaining RF channel, still putting out a 6 MHz ATSC stream, but now the 19.39 mbps bitstream would be divided between two broadcasters. Viewers (after rescanning) would still see "48.1" and "62.1" (and maybe even "48.2" and/or "62.2") just like they do now, but behind the scenes, they'd all be riding that single stream.

Look at "channel-splitting" this way: as the subchannel thing that already exists for DTV. Really, there is no difference from a technical standpoint.

There are some significant legal ramifications, but your TV will never know the difference.
 
w9wi said:
Scott Fybush said:
Not yet. The concept of "share time" in the spectrum-auction world is a new one. In the analog days, there were a handful of "share-time" TV stations that literally shared time: they might own a common transmitter or might each have their own separate transmission facility, but either way, only one station was on the air at a given time. I believe the last of those was channel 60 in Chicago, which lasted into the mid-80s: Spanish WBBS-TV had it during the day, indie WPWR-TV had it at night.

The new "share time" concept will be much more transparent to the viewer: if WYDN and WMFP, for instance, each give up a piece of their spectrum, you'd have one DTV transmitter on the remaining RF channel, still putting out a 6 MHz ATSC stream, but now the 19.39 mbps bitstream would be divided between two broadcasters. Viewers (after rescanning) would still see "48.1" and "62.1" (and maybe even "48.2" and/or "62.2") just like they do now, but behind the scenes, they'd all be riding that single stream.

Look at "channel-splitting" this way: as the subchannel thing that already exists for DTV. Really, there is no difference from a technical standpoint.

There are some significant legal ramifications, but your TV will never know the difference.

I don't know... In NYC, 44.1 broadcasts a HD WNYW (5.1v). 44.2 runs a SD WWOR and labels it "9.2". 38.1 runs a HD of WWOR (9.1v) and a SD WNYW (5.1v) on 38.2 and labels it "5.2". 38.3 runs Bounce and labels it 9.3. If FOX decided to unload one signal and put WWOR and WNYW on the same channel, I don't understand how they could field two 1080i HD signals without one signal getting the short end of the stick. No way they could run Bounce with two HDs eating all of those bits per second. Also there would be less diversity of signals (and potential advertising revenue) because of inability to run extra screens.

Even scarier than that, it appears that market dynamics might be thrown for a loop. The way I understand it; were WMFP to sell its spectrum, the FCC could throw a station on a high UHF channel down to WMFP's ch. 18. This may force a station to vacate a desirable and lucrative high end frequency and "settle" for a less desirable signal. It seems to me that there is too much potential long term revenues and programming choices being sacrificed for a one-time spectrum sale!

I can't see how Broadcasting wins in this scenario.

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iyiyi said:
I don't know... In NYC, 44.1 broadcasts a HD WNYW (5.1v). 44.2 runs a SD WWOR and labels it "9.2". 38.1 runs a HD of WWOR (9.1v) and a SD WNYW (5.1v) on 38.2 and labels it "5.2". 38.3 runs Bounce and labels it 9.3.

Small point of clarification here: those aren't in any way "44.1" or "44.2" or "38.1." For some reason that I don't fully understand, the program allocation table (PAT) used in ATSC DTV typically puts the first video stream on program #3, with subsequent video streams following from that. So WNYW's RF 44 signal actually has "5.1" on program 3 and "9.2" on program 4, while WWOR's RF 38 signal has "9.1" on program 3, "5.2" on program 4 and "9.3" on program 5.

As long as there's a valid PSIP being transmitted as part of the bitstream, your TV or converter box knows how to remap everything and this is of no concern to you. If something fails in the encoder and it's not transmitting PSIP, your TV or converter box *may* still display the channels in un-remapped form, so you'd see WNYW on "44.3" and "38.4." Some brands of TV will allow you to input the direct RF channel and program number; my Sony will happily tune manually to "45.3" (RF 45, program #3) to show me WROC, which would ordinarily show up remapped as "8.1". (In fact, it will even scan in RF channels that are deliberately left unmapped by broadcasters; the station where I work, which remaps to "21.x" but broadcasts on RF 16, uses a portion of its bitstream to backhaul several audio channels to remote transmitter sites, and my TV found them and scanned in "16.7" and "16.9" when I set it up.)

If FOX decided to unload one signal and put WWOR and WNYW on the same channel, I don't understand how they could field two 1080i HD signals without one signal getting the short end of the stick. No way they could run Bounce with two HDs eating all of those bits per second. Also there would be less diversity of signals (and potential advertising revenue) because of inability to run extra screens.

Which is exactly why it's highly unlikely to ever be in Fox's interest (or CBS, or even Univision) to go playing in the fields of incentive auctions. The idea is to get the lower-tier players - the WMFPs and WYDNs and WWDPs of the world - to yield up spectrum that's not generating as much revenue in broadcast use.

Even scarier than that, it appears that market dynamics might be thrown for a loop. The way I understand it; were WMFP to sell its spectrum, the FCC could throw a station on a high UHF channel down to WMFP's ch. 18. This may force a station to vacate a desirable and lucrative high end frequency and "settle" for a less desirable signal. It seems to me that there is too much potential long term revenues and programming choices being sacrificed for a one-time spectrum sale!

I can't see how Broadcasting wins in this scenario.

For the most part, UHF is UHF. There's nothing especially "less desirable" about RF 18 vs. RF 42. (If there were, WGBH would have flipped its signals and put its flagship "Channel 2" on RF 43 and WGBX "Channel 44" on RF 19, right?)

What broadcasters really don't want is to be forced from UHF to VHF, and the FCC has promised it won't do that involuntarily.
 
Scott Fybush said:
iyiyi said:
I don't know... In NYC, 44.1 broadcasts a HD WNYW (5.1v). 44.2 runs a SD WWOR and labels it "9.2". 38.1 runs a HD of WWOR (9.1v) and a SD WNYW (5.1v) on 38.2 and labels it "5.2". 38.3 runs Bounce and labels it 9.3.

Small point of clarification here: those aren't in any way "44.1" or "44.2" or "38.1." For some reason that I don't fully understand, the program allocation table (PAT) used in ATSC DTV typically puts the first video stream on program #3, with subsequent video streams following from that. So WNYW's RF 44 signal actually has "5.1" on program 3 and "9.2" on program 4, while WWOR's RF 38 signal has "9.1" on program 3, "5.2" on program 4 and "9.3" on program 5.

As long as there's a valid PSIP being transmitted as part of the bitstream, your TV or converter box knows how to remap everything and this is of no concern to you. If something fails in the encoder and it's not transmitting PSIP, your TV or converter box *may* still display the channels in un-remapped form, so you'd see WNYW on "44.3" and "38.4." Some brands of TV will allow you to input the direct RF channel and program number; my Sony will happily tune manually to "45.3" (RF 45, program #3) to show me WROC, which would ordinarily show up remapped as "8.1". (In fact, it will even scan in RF channels that are deliberately left unmapped by broadcasters; the station where I work, which remaps to "21.x" but broadcasts on RF 16, uses a portion of its bitstream to backhaul several audio channels to remote transmitter sites, and my TV found them and scanned in "16.7" and "16.9" when I set it up.)

If FOX decided to unload one signal and put WWOR and WNYW on the same channel, I don't understand how they could field two 1080i HD signals without one signal getting the short end of the stick. No way they could run Bounce with two HDs eating all of those bits per second. Also there would be less diversity of signals (and potential advertising revenue) because of inability to run extra screens.

Which is exactly why it's highly unlikely to ever be in Fox's interest (or CBS, or even Univision) to go playing in the fields of incentive auctions. The idea is to get the lower-tier players - the WMFPs and WYDNs and WWDPs of the world - to yield up spectrum that's not generating as much revenue in broadcast use.

Even scarier than that, it appears that market dynamics might be thrown for a loop. The way I understand it; were WMFP to sell its spectrum, the FCC could throw a station on a high UHF channel down to WMFP's ch. 18. This may force a station to vacate a desirable and lucrative high end frequency and "settle" for a less desirable signal. It seems to me that there is too much potential long term revenues and programming choices being sacrificed for a one-time spectrum sale!

I can't see how Broadcasting wins in this scenario.

For the most part, UHF is UHF. There's nothing especially "less desirable" about RF 18 vs. RF 42. (If there were, WGBH would have flipped its signals and put its flagship "Channel 2" on RF 43 and WGBX "Channel 44" on RF 19, right?)

What broadcasters really don't want is to be forced from UHF to VHF, and the FCC has promised it won't do that involuntarily.

Your first answer is petty semantics. Has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. 40.1 on MY set yields 58.1. 40.2 is 58.2 to my set. 40.3 is 58.3. Who cares?

Second answer is -- again -- not germane to my topic whatsoever. WWDP is on VHF channel 10. WMFP is a directional signal. WYDN is extremely directional. All three signals are programming probably the highest and best use of those frequencies. How does WHDH gain from being kicked down to a directional signal on 18?

UHF is UHF to the extent that the UHF TV spectrum is well under an octave. This makes tuners very easy to make and tune. The laws of physics state that the antenna for channel 18 must be larger than an antenna for channel 51. This may make quite a difference in OTA TV reception in something like a cell phone, ATSC computer or iPhone dongle and etc.. Why else are non broadcast interests so hot in desire for this high UHF spectrum seeing that UHF is UHF?

You have successfully obfuscated the intent of my post. You have not addressed the two 1080i on one channel, decrease in diversification of extra screens and other issues important to the point I attempted to make in the last paragraph.

Again -- How does Broadcasting or the public win anything from this scenario?

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This Plum TV really sucks. They've GOT to be paying WMFP...otherwise they could have moved RTV to the main channel.
Can anyone confirm or deny that?
 
iyiyi said:
Your first answer is petty semantics. Has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. 40.1 on MY set yields 58.1. 40.2 is 58.2 to my set. 40.3 is 58.3. Who cares?

As an engineer (or at least as someone who speaks fluent engineer on the boards), I'd hope you would care about technical accuracy. There's no "40.1." There's a virtual channel "58.1" that's transmitted over RF channel 40, on video program 3. That may or may not be "petty," but it's more than just semantics.

Second answer is -- again -- not germane to my topic whatsoever. WWDP is on VHF channel 10. WMFP is a directional signal. WYDN is extremely directional. All three signals are programming probably the highest and best use of those frequencies. How does WHDH gain from being kicked down to a directional signal on 18?

The issue of directionality is something the FCC will have to deal with as it works its way through the nuts and bolts of making an incentive auction and repacking work. The auction, remember, is just one means to the end of spectrum repacking. The FCC believes (though without having yet "shown its work," if you will) that it can take the TV signals that now exist on channels 2-51 and make them all fit in a lesser amount of spectrum, possibly as little as channels 2-31. Some of that reduction in spectrum usage is expected to come from TV licensees giving up all or part of their spectrum through auction. You're taking a very narrow view of that process ("WMFP gives up 18, WHDH is on 42, WHDH goes to 18.") It may not be that simple. It may involve a larger refarming of the allocation plan in congested areas such as eastern New England, and it may involve more directionality. Until the FCC releases more information about its repacking models, we do not know how extensive that process might be, and we don't know to what extent stations will have to bear the cost of new antennas and such.

UHF is UHF to the extent that the UHF TV spectrum is well under an octave. This makes tuners very easy to make and tune. The laws of physics state that the antenna for channel 18 must be larger than an antenna for channel 51. This may make quite a difference in OTA TV reception in something like a cell phone, ATSC computer or iPhone dongle and etc.. Why else are non broadcast interests so hot in desire for this high UHF spectrum seeing that UHF is UHF?

They're not, necessarily. For 60 years now, the FCC's allocations policy has dictated that all UHF television must operate in one contiguous chunk of spectrum. It made sense at the beginning to nibble away at that chunk at the top end, since those channels were the most lightly used and the hardest for broadcasters to utilize in the early days of UHF. Beginning in the 1970s, the low end was also nibbled away: for many years now, channels 14-20 have been shared between land mobile (the "UHF-T band") and broadcast TV. That's why channel 14 was removed from TV use in Worcester, and why 16 was removed from TV use in Providence.

It's my understanding that the FCC and the consumer electronics industry still prefers to keep TV at the lower end of UHF and mobile/broadband at the upper end simply for the convenience of device design. As long as VHF remains in use for TV, it makes more sense to design an antenna that will work from 174-608 MHz (channels 7-36) than one that will work from 174-216 and then, say, 550-698 MHz.

You have successfully obfuscated the intent of my post. You have not addressed the two 1080i on one channel, decrease in diversification of extra screens and other issues important to the point I attempted to make in the last paragraph.

Again -- How does Broadcasting or the public win anything from this scenario?

I believe I've addressed the "two 1080i on one channel" question: it's already technically possible (if somewhat ugly). But most of the broadcasters in a position to run two HD streams of programming are still profitable enough as TV broadcasters that they will have little or no interest in participating in this auction, and the FCC has stated they won't be compelled to give up spectrum involuntarily.

(This may change down the road as our current MPEG-2-based ATSC system gives way to more efficient compression modes such as MPEG-4, a shift that's already at least in the standards-development phase. But that's probably a question for 2015 or 2020, not 2012.)

The larger questions are probably beyond my pay grade, but I'll take a game stab at them anyway. It seems to me that you are equating "what's good for broadcasting" (I'll assume, despite the perplexing capitalization, that you're referring to the lower-case-b industry and not the capital-B magazine) with "what's good for the public." Even if one accepts that that equation could be made in the past, I'm not sure I automatically buy it in 2012.

Nielsen says there are 2.4 million TV homes in the Boston DMA. Let's say, for the sake of argument and a round number, that that equates to 4 million potential TV viewers in the DMA. 80 percent of them (and that's probably a low figure) never watch OTA TV. Now we're down to 800,000 people who might watch a WYDN or a WMFP over the air...if they could receive them. But a big chunk of that DMA (geographically, anyway) is up in New Hampshire or out in Worcester County or on the Cape and can't get those signals. So now we're down to 600,000 potential viewers. Any of those stations would consider themselves very, very lucky indeed to get a 1 share for anything they're programming. That's - maybe, VERY optimistically - 6,000 people who might be making use of one of those OTA signals during peak viewing hours. (My guess is the real-world number may well be a tenth of that.)

Now: How many of those 4 million people use smartphones or tablets or other wireless broadband devices? How much more data throughput could they get to those devices if carriers had an extra 6 or 12 or 18 MHz of spectrum available to them for the purpose? To what extent is that use of the spectrum also a "public good"?

This was not a question the FCC had to answer in 1952, when the UHF TV spectrum was allocated, nor in the 1980s, when channels 70-83 were removed for cellular voice service. There was still plenty of "open land" on UHF for everyone who wanted it. That's a harder case to make today, especially against an FCC that has an explicit "broadband-first" policy stance. Perhaps the better question might be the reverse one: on what grounds should a WMFP or a WYDN or a WDPX automatically continue to be entitled to 6 MHz of spectrum to serve just 600 or 6000 people?

That is, admittedly, a difficult thing to contemplate for someone who's been in the industry for a long time (and who holds it in capital-B reverence)...but it's a question this FCC is asking, and for reasons which appear (at least to me) to have some validity.

And understand, please, that I'm raising at least some of these questions in devils-advocate mode. I too believe that one-to-many broadcasting, as we've understood it for 90+ years, is still a tremendously efficient use of spectrum for reaching a mass audience. I think there's still going to be a business model, probably for many years to come, for some form of broadcast TV. But it's going to change, and I'm more interested in following that change (and maybe even finding ways to get in front of it) than in trying to hold on to a status quo that can't hold.
 
iyiyi said:
UHF is UHF to the extent that the UHF TV spectrum is well under an octave. This makes tuners very easy to make and tune. The laws of physics state that the antenna for channel 18 must be larger than an antenna for channel 51. This may make quite a difference in OTA TV reception in something like a cell phone, ATSC computer or iPhone dongle and etc.. Why else are non broadcast interests so hot in desire for this high UHF spectrum seeing that UHF is UHF?

The simple answer is that, for mobile devices, the higher the frequency the better, because (as you note) smaller antennas are practical. TV continues to be viewed overwhelmingly on stationary receivers, where a larger antenna is practical.

Again -- How does Broadcasting or the public win anything from this scenario?

The broadcasting industry as a whole wins nothing; indeed, the industry loses. The FCC is to *try* to avoid creating new interference for existing stations, but nothing in the law requires them to succeed...

A few individual stations potentially gain, if they're able to cash in on some or all of their spectrum. They may (or may not) be able to make more money in the long run by keeping their spectrum & using it to do TV -- but most businesses these days are concentrated on the short term. $1,000,000 today beats the heck out of $250,000 a year for the next ten years.

Does the public win or lose? Good question.

- There are those who say the spectrum shortage is, like the bacon shortage, imaginary. (I note I received an email at work a few months ago from the firm that's selling the old MediaFLO transmitters. That's the folks who bought channel 55. Last I heard, that spectrum is still unused.)
- On the other hand, if the shortage is real, then Scott's math begins to make a lot of sense -- in the end, the spectrum WYDN uses today may serve a lot more people if we transfer it to AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon.

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Scott, I have a minor quibble with part of your response:
As long as VHF remains in use for TV, it makes more sense to design an antenna that will work from 174-608 MHz (channels 7-36) than one that will work from 174-216 and then, say, 550-698 MHz.

There really isn't a single antenna design that will work effectively over 174-608MHz. The indoor designs that work at VHF are fundamentally two different antennas in a single housing -- one covering 174-216 and the other 470-806. The designs that try to cover the entire 174-608 band are generally UHF antennas that simply write "VHF/UHF" on the box -- and drive us VHF station engineers batty... By the time you've had to design separate VHF-high and UHF antennas, it doesn't really much matter whether the UHF portion is 470-608 or 550-698.
 
If more stations end up on VHF, won't we eventually end up with the same mess the FCC had in the late 1940's-1950's before the building/licence freeze? The risk of stations being too close together in overlapping markets?

Or is that eliminated in the digital age?
 
Hey I noticed they're actually broadcasting in HD now. This is a surprise. Now we just have to wait for Comcast to add it.
 
mysticnitekatt said:
If more stations end up on VHF, won't we eventually end up with the same mess the FCC had in the late 1940's-1950's before the building/licence freeze? The risk of stations being too close together in overlapping markets?

Or is that eliminated in the digital age?

No, that's a perfectly valid concern.

Actually, I doubt we'll see more than a literal handful of stations agree to sell their UHF channels in favor of VHF. I think where we might have more VHF growth is with LPTV stations kicked off their UHF channels & finding nowhere else to go.
 
Scott Fybush said:
And understand, please, that I'm raising at least some of these questions in devils-advocate mode. I too believe that one-to-many broadcasting, as we've understood it for 90+ years, is still a tremendously efficient use of spectrum for reaching a mass audience. I think there's still going to be a business model, probably for many years to come, for some form of broadcast TV. But it's going to change, and I'm more interested in following that change (and maybe even finding ways to get in front of it) than in trying to hold on to a status quo that can't hold.

Part of the problem, I'm finding, is the near total ignorance from consumers about broadcast TV. I still get surprised looks when I tell people that they can get HDTV and a lot of extra channels free simply by hooking up an antenna. "Are you sure?", they ask. And broadcasters themselves are partly to blame for it. When was the last time you saw a PSA on a station, particularly a full power station, telling viewers they can cut their cable bill by using an antenna? Why kill (or at least disturb) the retrans goose laying those golden eggs?

But this lack of knowledge, along with the DTV transition itself, has seriously wounded FOTA TV. No wonder the FCC thinks broadcast television is on the way out. Only minorities, it seems, are clued into free TV by means of an antenna. No doubt this is due to the fact that many LPTV stations, which have almost no must carry rights (except under extreme circumstances) and rely heavily on OTA reach, carry foreign language programs.

Of course, some diginets like Bounce TV are starting to do well and perhaps they can entice more consumers into making the switch to OTA. But educating the consumer still needs to be a priority with broadcasters.
 
MarioMania said:
What is the FCC doing with the VHF Low band Ch. 2-6??

VHF-lo was fine during the days analog TV. But today, for DTV.... VHF-lo is a disaster. The noise-floor prevalent on those low band frequencies is too high for any DTV signal to break through unless you have some super power transmitter and a decent receive antenna.

With the way they are trying to divvy up the UHF band (a band of frequencies once considered "sub-par" only a couple of decades ago), the FCC is trying to entice some of those broadcasters to move downstairs to VHF (2-13) so that the broadband interests can move in to UHF. DTV reception on VHF is lousy, to say the least. You saw what happened on Boston's Channel 7. They had to move back to their pre-transition channel on 42 because no one could get the DTV signal on 7. The noise-floor on VHF, never mind the larger antennas needed to get the VHF'ers are almost prohibitive in this day and age. For the most part, the power levels on both UHF and VHF are less than adequate to provide for the proper coverage for DTV. Ironically, WMFP (RF 18) probably has one of the best DTV signals in the market with a full 1 million watts of ERP. Yet, it is the probably one of the most under utilized stations in the market. It's a dollar-a-holler station. Obviously, "Plum TV" bought the time. RTV still on 62.2 is still on for now, BUT just try to get RTV on cable. You can't. It's not being shopped as a "must-carry". I have a feeling that WMFP is just finishing up their contract with RTV and has someone in the wings to replace it.
 
MarioMania said:
What is the FCC doing with the VHF Low band Ch. 2-6??

Nothing.

As for the incentive auction...

- Nobody wants to buy the VHF-Low channels. The $23 in my wallet would probably buy two or three of them with enough left over to go to dinner with the YL :) There will be no point in the existing VHF-Low stations offering their spectrum in the auction. Especially for those in lightly-populated areas where there's room on UHF.

- The FCC cannot *force* stations to move to VHF-Low. No station which intends to continue to broadcast to an OTA audience will volunteer for the move.

- I think it is possible some "third-tier" stations will volunteer to go VHF-Low. A station volunteering to go VHF-Low would collect some incentive auction money, without having to go out of business. Since it would still have an OTA signal with theoretical coverage, it would continue to be entitled to a slot on cable/satellite. And the cost of operating a VHF-Low transmitter is a lot lower than that of a UHF transmitter of identical theoretical coverage.

- Many LPTV stations are going to be "bumped" by the refarming process. In more populated areas (and there are few more populated than New England) many of these stations are going to find VHF-Low the only place they can go.

(There may be some auction revenue going on there. When more than one LPTV finds that channel 3 is the only place they can go, there will be an auction to see which one gets it. So I may be spending that $23 on dinner after all.)
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
Obviously, "Plum TV" bought the time. RTV still on 62.2 is still on for now, BUT just try to get RTV on cable. You can't. It's not being shopped as a "must-carry". I have a feeling that WMFP is just finishing up their contract with RTV and has someone in the wings to replace it.

Sub-channels cannot be designated as "must carry." That only applies to the main signal. If a station is retrans consent, then sometimes carriage of one or more subchannels is part of that deal...but not always.
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
MarioMania said:
What is the FCC doing with the VHF Low band Ch. 2-6??

RTV still on 62.2 is still on for now, BUT just try to get RTV on cable. You can't. It's not being shopped as a "must-carry". I have a feeling that WMFP is just finishing up their contract with RTV and has someone in the wings to replace it.

WMFP is the only game around with RTV. Where is the logic in their giving up an "exclusive" programming option? Especially seeing that even cable doesn't offer RTV?

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