WMLB 1690

[OgOgglby]

What's the deal with 1690 airing a nighttime show from NY that answers questions from immigrants wanting to get a green card? I thought I was listening to WRFG in the early 70's.

 

[glen0928]

It's a brokered caribbean slot.

 

[smedge2006]

Brokered! But I thought Mr. Bakery Man had bags of money and just wanted a place to play his bizarre train wreck format. He didn't have to try to make money or get ratings or listen to those slobbering lefties who dared to ask for an alternative to Neal Boortz on AM radio. Hmmmm...

 

[amlover]

AM-1690 is a total waste of anybody's time and that programing they have decided to air at night is nothing but JUNK along with the rest of the mess they air. Nobody listens anyway so who cares. It's ashame that two AM signals 1160 and 1690 got destroyed by someone who has no idea how to run a radio station.

 

[JohnAllan]

AM-1690 is a total waste of anybody's time and that programing they have decided to air at night is nothing but JUNK along with the rest of the mess they air. Nobody listens anyway so who cares. It's ashame that two AM signals 1160 and 1690 got destroyed by someone who has no idea how to run a radio station.

AMEN!

 

[evnlee]

Brokered! But I thought Mr. Bakery Man had bags of money and just wanted a place to play his bizarre train wreck format. He didn't have to try to make money or get ratings or listen to those slobbering lefties who dared to ask for an alternative to Neal Boortz on AM radio. Hmmmm...

aww, Smedge...still whining about your Err Amerika getting yanked?

Hey, here's an 'idea' . Go look up the definition of 'brokered', then get back to us on how running 'brokered' programming is a bad idea for the bottom line. :

People like to complain about how 'tight playlists' confine music radio, then along comes Mr Bakery Man, with his huge playlist to choose from. IMHO, I would prefer more Bakery Men and less stations playing the same 20 songs over and over. But, that's just me.


I like Glazer's music program, and Weber has been making inroads into broadcasting more local bands. That's good.

Also, the ratings are just as flat playing bird calls and opera as the angry rantings of lefties local and otherwise. Not better, not worse, still insignificant.

 

[smedge2006]

Also, the ratings are just as flat playing bird calls and opera as the angry rantings of lefties local and otherwise. Not better, not worse, still insignificant.

1690 would show up every other book or so as Air America... it hasn't shown up at all since the bird calls arrived. I didn't say brokered was bad for the bottom line. But the fact that they have to run brokered indicates there's a problem WITH the bottom line. Stations don't run out and get brokered shows because they think listeners are clamoring for them.

Do you really like Weber's bizarre operational approach, or do you embrace it simply as a way to raise a middle finger to progressives and Air America fans, a sort of "the enemy of my enemy" approach.

 

[taylorengineer]

Joe is doing what many of us only dream about.....play what we want, when we want, with no regard for what the "masses" desire.
Like it or not, 1690 is a collection of the obscure, the strange, and the ignored, mixed with more mainstream material. Many of us complain about "cookie cutter" radio.....well....here's something completely different!
Joe is attempting to program to, and for, the intellectual community. What's wrong with that? Problem is, the intellectual community does not care about music, other than Classical, and certainly has no need for radio, beyond traffic, weather, and news. Ergo, Joe is selling time to stop the bleeding, financially.
For the record, the guy who runs the stations, Jeff Davis, was a multi-million dollar salesman with both ClearChannel and Cox. He ran a station for several years. He DOES know the business better than most of us who opine here.....
I, for one, applaude Joe's attempt to think outside the box. If I had that chance you guys would blister me for what I'd do!! The trailer parks would never be the same.....

 

[evnlee]

Also, the ratings are just as flat playing bird calls and opera as the angry rantings of lefties local and otherwise. Not better, not worse, still insignificant.

1690 would show up every other book or so as Air America... it hasn't shown up at all since the bird calls arrived. I didn't say brokered was bad for the bottom line. But the fact that they have to run brokered indicates there's a problem WITH the bottom line. Stations don't run out and get brokered shows because they think listeners are clamoring for them.

Do you really like Weber's bizarre operational approach, or do you embrace it simply as a way to raise a middle finger to progressives and Air America fans, a sort of "the enemy of my enemy" approach.

Smedge, you are sadly misinformed. And your bias is showing, big time.

For those who would claim 'Air America' showed up in the books, that's not true.They may have shown up in a trend, but neither WWAA or WMLB have shown up in a ratings book. Go check out RnR.

My enemy is not 'progressive' talk. It's not my problem they cannot succeed! My true enemy is tightly controlled playlists~ and corporate radio that will not give local musicians and bands the airwaves to help promote thier craft. You hate Weber because, in your misinformed view, he is the reason Err Amerika is no longer on the air here, and you have already come up with some crazy theories as to why he 'hates' progressive talk ( even though he gave Franken air time when he did not have to ). I like Weber, because he is more likely to play my music~ he has local DJ's that play local music~ and he is crazy enough to play whatever he feels like, damn the consultants. As a matter of fact, one of the bands I founded 20 years ago and I contract with very often, Mudcat, is in his rotation.

Now, you can gloat about WMLB not showing up in the books, and I can gloat about the fact that the all-powerful Air America has been shown to be a fiscal disaster. But~ Weber still has something WWAA did not have : a sales staff. His 'birdcalls' remain on the air because he mus be doing something right. I know that just drives you guys crazy

 

[taylorengineer]

Air America, had it been a viable operation, could have bought time on WGUN, and remained in Atlanta. There were actually negotiations to do just that but the money just was not there. Principles of Air America also negotiated with Weber and could not offer enough money to go to 1160 AM.
Air America DID post 12+ numbers during it's run. I was the contract engineer and I saw the crowds the station could draw when it did promotional events. It could have been much more successful if the owners had not been positioned to sell the station from it's inception.
Someone should pick up Mike Malloy, the HedgeHog (Tom Houk) Comrade Mikey Rose, and a few other various and sundry liberals, and do a real liberal format, grounded in good business principles.
The audience is there!

 

[amlover]

Program to the intellectual community...Give me a break! 1690 is not listened too by anybody with any intellect. Those folks listen to WABE or their on iPod. Who in their right mind will listen to Classical next to some hillbilly craze then some opera followed by some stupid interview that nobody cares about. The station is a waste PERIOD. Yes Jeff is a good radio man that could sell ice to Eskimo's but NOT 1690 and 1160 is a hard enough sell even with a format. That's why they have brokered time because they can't sell spots and if they do they don't stay on board because the advertisers don't get results. No I don't envy Joe or anybody who owns and am radio station. The are black holes that will suck your money and FM's are not much better now. As much as I love radio personally to most folks radio is not even an issue.

 

[evnlee]

Air America, had it been a viable operation, could have bought time on WGUN, and remained in Atlanta. There were actually negotiations to do just that but the money just was not there. Principles of Air America also negotiated with Weber and could not offer enough money to go to 1160 AM.
Air America DID post 12+ numbers during it's run. I was the contract engineer and I saw the crowds the station could draw when it did promotional events. It could have been much more successful if the owners had not been positioned to sell the station from it's inception.
Someone should pick up Mike Malloy, the HedgeHog (Tom Houk) Comrade Mikey Rose, and a few other various and sundry liberals, and do a real liberal format, grounded in good business principles.
The audience is there!

True enough, but the 'promotional events' often were coupled with good press from the willing crew @ Creative Loafing, and visiting bigwigs ( Like Franken's Variety Playhouse event )~ but even with that , they only pulled even with 920 in the market demo...

Malloy has been fired everywhere he goes, including Air America. Houck would be ok, but I dont think he could physically pull 2 hours of talk, and Mikey isn't on the farm anymore. But, there are some decent libtalkers locally, Don White, Coz ( when he's on his meds)Carson, Ike, Joe Weeks, et al,,

Gee, alot of people sure hate Weber's wierd format. I grew up loving the AM band because of all the diverse, nutty stuff they played, that the FM band wouldn't touch. Now, Weber has brought some of that eclectic noise to AM, and people damn him for it. Oh well.

 

[taylorengineer]

Mikey's not on the farm anymore.......the barnyard innuendo is irresistable!!
You would really need someone like Randi Rhoades....someone you could just really hate....along with Mikey and Mike.
Maybe Malloy's wife would be better - she's brainy and pretty cute too.....and I think she's even more liberal than Mike. We know alot of the same people at WRFG.......
Talk talent is hard to come by. When you find someone who is really interesting they are too "interesting" for the average listener.

 

[Mike_Rose]

I think what evnlee is referring to is that I am much more conservative these days than when I was at WRFG in the 1980's playing folk music records. I don't this it has much to with farm animals and me. But at WRFG there may have been a few farm animals involved.